Linux-Advocacy Digest #49, Volume #35             Fri, 8 Jun 01 10:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Windows advocate of the year. (.)
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: IBM Goes Gay ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Will MS get away with this one? (Charles Lyttle)
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (.)
  Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (Peter da Silva)
  Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! (Terry Porter)
  Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Les Mikesell")
  Re: Argh - Ballmer (Dan Pidcock)
  Re: IBM Goes Gay (Donn Miller)
  Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! ("Chad Myers")
  Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Chad Myers")
  Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Chad Myers")
  Re: IBM Goes Gay ("Edward Rosten")
  Re: IBM Goes Gay ("Edward Rosten")
  Re: I propose a GPL change... ("Mart van de Wege")
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (drsquare)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (drsquare)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (drsquare)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:42:07 -0400

Stuart Fox wrote:
> 
> "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > That isn't BS, either.  Stac and Citrix did both get screwed by MS, just
> > like Apple.  Phillip's comments get skewed because he seems to believe
> > that Apple won their suite (they lost) and that it had to do with some
> > 'embedded copyright', rather than the 'look and feel copyright' that the
> > case actually pertained to.
> >
> Citrix seem to be doing rather well for themselves, for someone who was
> screwed by MS

Mainly, because MS ***STILL*** has MAJOR SHORTCOMINGS in their standard
distributions.......

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: Windows advocate of the year.
Date: 8 Jun 2001 12:41:58 GMT

Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stuart Fox wrote:
>> 
>> "Michael Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > NT/W2K should only run one application per server. You need a separate
>> > computer for file sharing, printing, DHCP, Exchange. Put more than one
>> > application on a server, and you will have problems. Also, NT/W2K servers
>> > should number about 1 for every 20 users.
>> 
>> With your servers separated that way, you should be able to support between
>> 500 - 1000 users on NT/2K, without daily/weekly reboots.
>> 
>> > How NT/W2K ever managed to pass its self off as a stable server platform
>> > will continue to baffle me.
>> 
>> We consistently run servers with at least three monthly uptimes.  Of course,
>> YMMV

> Of course....Stuart fails to mention that none of those 3-month uptimes
> are on his LoseDOS machines.

Please get off our side.  

You've been rejected clearly by both sides of the linux advocacy issue;
its time to go home, aaron.




=====.


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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:47:02 -0400

"." wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > drsquare wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:29:33 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >>  ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >>
> >> >The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >> Will I? How am I going to find this?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >US Centers for Disease Control has the epidemiology of Hepatits
> >> >> >very well documented.
> >> >>
> >> >> But we apparently can't trust this government agency to report
> >> >> transmission methods of AIDS properly.
> >> >
> >> >And the basis for your claim is.....what, exactly
> >>
> >> This agency is probably full of conservative rightwing bigots. Like
> >> you.
> 
> > Translation: I, dr.square, have been reduced to ad hominem attacks.
> 
> Do you claim to *not* be a conservative right wing bigot?

Simple, I'm a libertarian.

Right wingers, just like left-wingers, are socialists.

Since libertarianism is fundamentally opposed to ALL forms of socialism,
then, for as long as I am a libertarian, I can NOT be a right winger.

QED

game
set
match.




> And if so, what exactly is your reasoning?
> 
> -----.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:47:33 -0400

pip wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > pip wrote:
> > >
> > > flatfish+++ wrote:
> > > > [snip]
> > >
> > > This thread really does have no place here.
> >
> > deviancy effects EVERYONE.
> 
> Yes I know - am I am being effected by you. Case in point.
> Can you just stick to technology at least ?

sure.

shove that windows shit up Bill Gates's ass.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Will MS get away with this one?
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:49:36 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> http://public.wsj.com/sn/y/SB991862595554629527.html
> 
> --
> Over 100 security bugs in Microsoft SW last year. An infamous
> record. The worst offending piece of SW, by far, IIS. 2001 isn't
> looking any better.
So now we need to add a copyright to the headers of our pages :
"This page may not be modified and must be displayed only in its
original form. If you suspect that a third party has modified this page
in transit, please notify ________ . For your information a list of all
links originally included in this page may be found at _____. By viewing
this page you agree with the above terms. All violation of these terms
will be pursued to the full extent of the law."
-- 
Russ Lyttle
"World Domination through Penguin Power"
The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: 8 Jun 2001 12:51:14 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "." wrote:
>> 
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > drsquare wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:29:33 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>> >>  ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >> Will I? How am I going to find this?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >US Centers for Disease Control has the epidemiology of Hepatits
>> >> >> >very well documented.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But we apparently can't trust this government agency to report
>> >> >> transmission methods of AIDS properly.
>> >> >
>> >> >And the basis for your claim is.....what, exactly
>> >>
>> >> This agency is probably full of conservative rightwing bigots. Like
>> >> you.
>> 
>> > Translation: I, dr.square, have been reduced to ad hominem attacks.
>> 
>> Do you claim to *not* be a conservative right wing bigot?

> Simple, I'm a libertarian.

Ah, so am I.  I have a feeling, however, that I am a libertarian in the
truest sense of the word; id almost call myself a jeffersonian democrat.

> Right wingers, just like left-wingers, are socialists.

> Since libertarianism is fundamentally opposed to ALL forms of socialism,
> then, for as long as I am a libertarian, I can NOT be a right winger.

Ah, you are a MICHIGAN libertarian.  Thats entirely different.  Michigan
libertarians actually are right wing, conservative bigots.  

I know.  I know at least a dozen of them.

If you were an actual libertarian, you would be concerned with the right
and the work of keeping your own back yard clean to your discression, and
you wouldnt give a shit about *anyone* elses.




=====.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva)
Crossposted-To: comp.arch,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Date: 8 Jun 2001 12:42:28 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Larry Elmore  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Windows than it was before the consent decree. I mean that Microsoft
> > doesn't actually force companies to sell Windows with every PC, but
> > they sure encourage it as hard as they can without stepping over the
> > line.

> As would almost any company that's competent enough to stay in business.
> Corporations cannot be expected to do anything except what they perceive
> to be in _their_ best interest. That's just reality.

And your point is what?

My point is that your analogy between cars and computers and transmissions
and operating systems is silly. Removing a transmission from a car is complex,
difficult, and requires special equipment. Removing an operating system from
a computer requires... uh, a CDROM drive, which they come with.

Do I expect Microsoft to behave any differently? Or any other company in
their position? No. That doesn't change the fact that your analogy stinks
on ice.

-- 
 `-_-'   In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva.
  'U`    "A well-rounded geek should be able to geek about anything."
                                                       -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
         Disclaimer: WWFD?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 08 Jun 2001 13:03:28 GMT

On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:16:47 +0200, Ayende Rahien <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> "Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:26:18 +0200, Ayende Rahien <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > "Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> >
>> >> Max could easily be running Agent under Wine for Linux, and you wouldnt
>> >> know. He could have modified his headers.
>> >>
>> >> But hes using Windows, and Agent, so what ?
>> >
>> > I recall him bragging about getting Linux with a new machine some time
> ago.
>> > What happened to it?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> How would I know ?
>>
>> Why would I care, a Linux advocate is a Linux advocate to me, whatever OS
>> they use. Some Linux advocates don't use Linux, and they don't have to.
>>
>> On the other hand, Some Wintrolls use Linux. Am I supposed to have so
>> little ability to discern, that I can't tell the difference ?
>>
>> Wintrolls have often accused Linuxers of attacking anyone who uses
>> Windows, because we *hate* Windows, but this has never been true.
>>
>> And this post is my proof.
> 
> Proof of what?

Proof of the fact that some Linux advocates use Windows.

> I was asking a question because considerring T. Max rabid hate for all
> things MS, I wouldn't think that he would want to use Win* for anything.
> 

Max isn't rabid, I find his arguments logical.

As far as using Windows, I do believe he *has* to, tho would rather not
and of course this is a common occurance.



-- 
Kind Regards from Terry
My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.   
Free Micro burner: http://jsno.downunder.net.au/terry/          
** Registration Number: 103931,  http://counter.li.org **

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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:26:23 GMT


"JS \ PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > Hard drive space for bloatware: $150
> > RAM for crapware: $200
> > CPU for the next version: $290
> >
> > Monopoly crapware: Priceless.
>
> Oh... looks like it's time to head on over to pricewatch dot com.
>
> Hard drive space for bloatware:
> Well there an 80gb HD for 208.00 what's that work out to..... $2.60 to
store
> Windows XP.

Don't forget the new motherboard with appropriate bios to handle
this.   And about half a day of an experienced technical support
person's time to get it installed.

> RAM 128mb for $21.00 (my god it's getting cheap) But most people already
> have at least 64mb if they are currently running Win98. So I'll just order
> 64mb from Connect Computers for a whole -  $9.00

This assumes you have empty DIMM slots, which isn't likely but
you can fix it with the new motherboard above.

> I'm up to $11.60

Plus time to order and install.

> Now I need a MONSTER, state of the art, 233mhz processor (actually I'm
> currently running XP beta on a 233 w/ 60mb EDO RAM and it runs fine)

Ah, so you were intentionally being dishonest about the RAM cost.
Try again with the real cost to add some EDO RAM to that machine
and tell us how long it takes you to get it working with that 80
gig drive you mentioned.

> Looks like a place called Kahlon will sell me a 233 for $27.00 (that
hurts)

> I'm almost out $40.00 upgrading my system to accomodate Windows XP!

How much would you charge to upgrade an office full of PC's and
guarantee that they work when you get done?   How long will it
take?

   Les Mikesell
       [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Pidcock)
Subject: Re: Argh - Ballmer
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:36:26 GMT

On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:56:57 +0200, "Mart van de Wege"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dan Pidcock"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> That's as maybe, but can you distribute modules for GPLd programs not
>> under the GPL?
>> 
>> Dan
>> remove .hatespam to reply
>
>I already tried to answer that with my post further up the thread. I may
>try to clarify with an example:
>The GIMP is a good graphics manipulation program, especially for
>hobbyists. What is keeping it back for professional use is the lack of
>color correction/separation features. The GIMP developers can't
>incorporate those, as the pertinent algorithms are patented (for example
>Pantone). Nothing prevents a company from developing a color correction
>plugin for the GIMP and sell it, even if they sell it binary only.
>HOWEVER, if this company decides to sell the GIMP along with this plugin,
>and advertises the color correction abilities of their version of the
>GIMP as core functionality, they must GPL their plugin.
>This is exactly the way the GIMP works around the LZW patent. Legally in
>the US the GIMP can't be distributed with GIF manipulation abilities
>under the GPL, as the LZW patent would impose more restrictions on
>redistribution than the GPL, and this is forbidden under the GPL. So the
>GIF plugins are distributed seperately, from a server in Finland.
>Hope this clarifies it a bit,

Thanks Mart that's somewhat clearer.  So in the example above the
company could sell their colour plugin with GIMP if they advertised it
as "colour corr plugin, with each of these you get a free copy of GIMP
as it's useless without GIMP"?
The program I am thinking of is actually a library (3d modelling
library Svlis http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ensab/G_mod/Svlis/install.html).
Currently it is free and with a commercial license for commercial use.
The author is releasing it as 'copyleft' next release, I think using
GPL.  So if I wrote a front-end 3D modeller GUI using this library
could I sell it commercially as long as I included the source to the
library?  As far as I can tell the answer is no I am not free to do
that.  What if I were to negotiate royalties with the author of the
library - can they do this or are they also bound by GPL?

Dan
remove .hatespam to reply

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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 09:48:41 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay

"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:

> sure.
> 
> shove that windows shit up Bill Gates's ass.

So Aaron walks around all day with a Win98 install CD wedged up his
butt.


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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:49:47 -0500


"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 20:13:03 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)) wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 20:02:44 GMT, Christopher L. Estep
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Also, merely enabling CD-R/RW support in Linux requires making changes to
> >> your kernel.  I know of *no* distribrution that enables SCSI emulation
> >> (which all Linux CD-R/RW programs require) by default.
> >
> >Caldera has it all set up to work via a loadable module.  I use scsi
> >emulation to run my IDE tape drive.  I did not have to recompile my
> >kernel to do so.
> >
> >The only reason there is no DVD support on Linux is that nobody is
> >selling it, nothing to do with the OS itself.  It is apparently
> >impossible to make an open-source player without getting sued.
>
> Since when does it have to be open source?

Because Penguinistas live in a world where everything should be free
and everyone's happy and roses grow everywhere =)

-c



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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:50:24 -0500


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <3b14069b$0$94306$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > "Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Chad Myers wrote:
> >>
> >> > Don't forget security, of which the MacOS has none.
> >>
> >> Mac OS-X is based on BSD-unix (Darwin)...
> >
> > [snip irrelevant]
> >
> > we're talking about currently shipping MacOSes, not lala-ware.
>
> So where does that leave M$ when it comes to security? At the
> bottom of the pile.

Do YOU even know what you're talking about? Have you ever
heard of NT or Windows 2000?

-c



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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:50:50 -0500


"Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3b204db4$0$214$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 00:36:03 GMT, Christopher L. Estep
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Star Office? (Max, it's available for Windows (and it's still free), but
> > >can't compare feature-wise to Office 97, let alone either 2000 *or* the
> > >just-released XP.)
> >
> > Name a feature that it lacks compared to Office 97.
>
> Can you embed a spreadsheet application within a word processing document
> all within a slide show presentation? Clicking on any section allows full
> power editing of that item within the native app.

Hell, that's not just O97, that's Windows in general =)

-c



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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:52:18 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "flatfish+++"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Only God almighty has the power to judge and his judgement is swift and
> fast.
>
> flatfish+++
> "Why do they call it a flatfish?"


Shame there isn't a "thou shalt not troll" commandment :-)


-Ed


-- 
(You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.)               (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)

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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:54:56 +0100

>> Didn't you call someone a limey in a recent post? I suppose that's not
>> as bad as being a homophobe, although I'm not sure why.
> 
> I might have.  I hate the english.
> 
> -----.

Racism is comtemptible.

-Ed



-- 
(You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.)               (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)

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From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I propose a GPL change...
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:56:06 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jim Richardson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 05:52:21 +0200, Ayende Rahien <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> "Jim Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> 
>>> like in the vorbis case you mentioned above? You said that there is
>>> much GPL'd S/W that violates patents, can you give an example of some
>>> ?
>> 
>> GIMP and the GIF algoritm, IIRC.
> 
> Only if it includes the lzw compression algorithm. If you read the gimp
> manual, you will find that it doesn't include support for writing that
> gif format. Please try again.
> 
Nope sorry, he's right. The GIMP comes without GIF capability by default.
Only in sensible countries where software patents don't apply can the GIF
plugin be distributed. The GIMP's main server is in Finland....

Mart

-- 
Gimme back my steel, gimme back my nerve
Gimme back my youth for the dead man's curve
For that icy feel when you start to swerve
        John Hiatt - What Do We Do Now

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:07:37 +0100

On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 03:55:51 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>Rick wrote:

>> > (*) not the desire
>> >
>> 
>> So, its the anal intercourse you dont like, or only if its between two
>> men?
>
>it's the SPREADING OF DISEASE which I don't like.

Oh, so you must be against all kinds of unprotected physical contact
then?

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:07:38 +0100

On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:38:38 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>"." wrote:

>> >> So, its the anal intercourse you dont like, or only if its between two
>> >> men?
>> 
>> > it's the SPREADING OF DISEASE which I don't like.
>> 
>> Never worked at a fast food joint, didja.
>> 
>> If you did, the food service industry would be at the forefront of your
>> insane rant.
>
>Which is why gays should be prohibited from food service.
>
>Most hepatitis outbreaks are traced back to an infected food service
>worker...and male homosexuals have the highest rate of hepatitis
>infection in the civilized world.

I'd like to see some statistics proving that. From a reliable source.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:07:39 +0100

On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 04:17:14 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>mlw wrote:

>> > What part of "IT's the BEHAVIOR(*)," do you not understand?????
>> >
>> > (*) not the desire
>> 
>> Normally I would not even touch such a string of posts. What two adults do in
>> privacy is no ones business. Who gives a flying fl&^%k what two people do
>> together? Seriously what does it matter?
>
>When two adults spread communicable diseases like Hepatitis and Tuberculosis,
>it is a matter of PUBLIC HEALTH and is EVERYBODY's business.

Oh, so what has this got to do with gay sex?

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