Linux-Advocacy Digest #244, Volume #35 Thu, 14 Jun 01 20:13:03 EDT
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Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...) ("Stephen S. Edwards II")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Stephen S. Edwards II")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Stephen S. Edwards II")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Stephen S. Edwards II")
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Stephen S. Edwards II")
Re: What does XP stands for ??? ("Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)")
spot the american psycho (Steve Chaney)
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. (GreyCloud)
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)")
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:10:46 -0700
"Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thaddius Maximus
wrote:
> >"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Most of them feel its a lost cause. A lot of the poor see no
difference
> >> > in their lot after voting. A lot say there is no difference between
a
> >> > Republican and a Democrat...
> >> > it's business as usual.
> >> > I'm more interested in the local issues that affect me so I do vote.
> >>
> >> The US created that bastardised system, now its time for it to be
mended. I
> >> have always suggested that the US adopt the west minster style
government
> >> via a MMP setup.
> >>
> >> Matthew Gardiner
> >
> >
> >The USA is a republic system and foremost in this system is protection
> >of inalienable rights and personal liberty. Our founding fathers were
> >nothing short of geniuses and I like their chosen system just fine,
> >thank you!
> >
>
> Hm, I'm hoping that you're joking here? I would never suggest anyone
> doesn't question their governmental system continuously. Failure
> to do so will always result in far too much power lying with far too
> few people.
I don't think he's referring to the current state, or the
way things were way back when. I think he's referring to
the ideas and ideals that are genius. In such a case, I
would agree, to the logical extent that such ways are the
most realistic ideals to date.
It is my contention that most politicians, be they
Democrat, or Republican, are fscking morons. Look
at how McCain has been waffling along. IMHO, Bush
just happens to be one of the few exceptions to the
rule.
Did you know that out here in AZ, we actually had a Rep.
advocating the idea of having a "state dirt"? I couldn't
believe that one. Another case of a pot-smoking lib
dressing like a Rep, IMHO.
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:13:47 -0700
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9g9v4b$m0j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <F6TV6.314$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Stephen S. Edwards II"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:9g72gl$qqf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >> Ignorance must be bliss in the US, hence the reason why so many
> >> groups/nations just want to blow the crap out of the country.
> >>
> >> Have you ever been outside the US once? maybe you should realise the
> >> world doesn't stop at the shores of the US.
> >
> > Germany, Japan, France, Egypt, Holland, etc.
> >
> > As I said, all of the alternatives I've seen so far suck. Hence, why
> > I've stayed here.
> >
> > *Yawn!*
> >
> > Same old same old. Non-U.S. folks always say that very same statement,
> > when their reason runs out, and they have no more ammo to back up their
> > ludicrous socialist ideals. "Have you ever been outside the U.S.?" How
> > typical.
> >
> > BTW, how many times has the U.S. been invaded?
> >
> > Zero.
>
> In recent times? What about the time when the europeans invavded and
> kicked out teh natives?
I'm talking about after the U.S. became a superpower.
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:41:46 -0700
"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Stephen S. Edwards II wrote:
>
> > "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:9g8v9n$av3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >>YATY = Yet Another Typical Yank
> >>
> >>You have now been kill filed.
> >>
> >
> > Take notes, people. Defeatist and
> > non-confrontational types are
> > always defeated.
>
> I didn't killfile you, I jus wanted to hear another pathetic reply.
Stating that you have *PLONK!*'ed someone, only
to reply yet again, is absolutely absurd. If you
didn't put me in your filter, then why the fuck
did you say so? It speaks volumes about your
credibility.
> btw, wtf is it with the II after your name?
My father's name is Stephen S. Edwards. I'll
let you do the math.
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:49:28 -0700
"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Stephen S. Edwards II wrote:
>
> > "Nick Condon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> >>Stephen S. Edwards II spouted:
> >>
> >>
> >>>The fact is, if Europe hadn't dragged us into
> >>>their little conflict ..
> >>>
> >>The Japs. The Japs brought the US into WWII.
> >>What's the matter, don't you go to the cinema?
> >>
> >
> > Perhaps that was poorly worded. As I said in
> > my reply to Steve, if Europe had banded together
> > properly to face off against the Nazis, they
> > would have squished them instantly. Japan never
> > would have been influenced to attack us, and
> > we wouldn't have gotten dragged into it in the
> > first place.
> >
> > And as for Pearl Harbor, I have no interest in
> > seeing Hollywierd's interpretation of events.
>
>
> Had, back in 1917, the western allies properly funded Tsar Nicholas II
> and stopped the communist forces, there would have never been a cold
> war! It is very easy to look back in hinesight knowing what we know now.
Likely, yes. Were you expecting me to disagree with
you? We also screwed up post WWII, when we had the
chance to take the USSR then as well. We also screwed
up in Vietnam, limiting our own army with that 38th
parallel baloney. If you think the intent of this
discussion was to illustrate how the U.S. is "superior"
or "perfect" then you missed the point entirely.
I simply stated that
I was a patriot. drsquare and, I think you, stated
that such an attitude was stupid. Then, in accordance
with Godwin's principle, the discussion degraded into
a discussion about the Nazis, at which point, I
demonstrated how Europe fell to the Nazis simply
because they didn't band together, which is what
people do when they are patriots of their homeland,
even if they share it with another nation (like how the
U.S. and Canada are basically considered sibling nations).
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:36:19 -0700
"~¿~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:3bWV6.682$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "~¿~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:V0JV6.10802$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:OXDV6.1682$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > "Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > > > "Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, let me throw this one at you, how do you feel about the fact
> > that
> > > > > here in America, somebody under 21 can buy a gun and serve his
> > country,
> > > > > but he/she can't even walk into a friggin' bar and order a beer?
> > Where's
> > > > > the American freedom there?
> > > >
> > > > It is preposterous, and such laws are a result
> > > > of the liberal mindset. That law was as recent
> > > > as the 70's, IIRC. The reason why laws like
> > > > that one get put into place is because of
> > > > a lack of patriotism, and pride. People just
> > > > apathetically allow these idiotic politicians
> > > > to do their own bidding, without saying a damn
> > > > word.
> > >
> > > How many democratic presidents were there in the 70's?
> >
> > What the hell does that have to do with anything?
>
> You're the one who said the law was created in the 70's, not me.
My mistake. I was mixing that one up with something
else. The law was created in 1987. It's still stupid.
> Under which president was the law created?
Reagan, but it was pushed by a Democratic
Congress, and seemed like a good idea at
the time, due to the enormous amount of
drunk driving accidents that were occurring.
So, why haven't the Dems done anything to change
it? Merely a demonstration that they can't seem
to do anything that doesn't fill their own
pocketbooks.
> Asking how many democratic presidents there were during the 70's seems
like
> a reasonable question to me.
>
> > > I've never heard such ass-backwards logic in my life.
> > > You MUST be a republican. Only people AFRAID of freedom inact such
laws.
> >
> > You Democrats are the ones who keep wanting more
> > government to "protect" people. You're the ones
> > who want socialism, and for everyone to have the
> > same amount of finances. You're the one who is
> > afraid to let people be free.
>
> This is where people of your mind set end up talking to the commode.
> You have no idea what "I favor". Go talk to the commode.
It's the typical pattern.
There is a problem, therefore, we make a law.
That new law makes new problems, so we make more
laws to address the new problems. Those new
laws spawn yet even more problems, ad. nauseum.
You people are like a virus... self-replicating.
> > > What about pot for medical purposes? Nope, can't have that. Somebody
> > might
> >
> > Did you know that marijuana was discovered to cause
> > brain tumors, Einstein?
>
> Really? What is tobacco smoke known to cause?
Tobacco has nothing to do with the topic you brought
up. Besides, there have been warning labels on those
things for years. If people are stupid enough to
go ahead and smoke, regardless of warnings as to what
it will do to their health, then the hell with them.
If you come across a wooden box with hole in it, that
has a sign next to it saying "do not put your hand in
this hole", are you going to do it? If you are, then
God bless Darwin's theories. Bet you won't do it again.
> Who goes after tobacco companies year in and year out.
> It ain't the conservatives Einstein.
Right. It's liberals, who think that people need
their protection. Why can't people be free to make
their own choices? Let me guess... "because people
don't know what's good for themselves", right?
"Don't teach them... that gives them power... merely
instruct them on how to act, and do what we want them
to do."
> > > actually feel good while their Glaucoma is relieved. You think that it
> is
> > a
> > > liberal view that keeps this illegal?
> >
> > If you Dems are so "free" oriented, please explain
> > why Tipper made policy to force recording companies
> > to label their CDs? Why does she continue to fight
> > to censor them on top of that?
>
> Tipper's not my cup of tea. Never was. But most conservatives would agree
> with her assesment of music labelling. Ever heard some of those rap
lyrics?
> I couldn't care less. I don't live in a midwest mindset.
It's my contention that you don't live in ANY
mindset at all. You just live in a world of
convenient idea manipulation. People like you
never commit to any definition of "right and
wrong" because when you're shown to be morons,
there is no way for you to get out.
> > Read some news on what DefJam records is going
> > through, and you'll see how "free" Dems want
> > things.
>
> There you go again, believing everything you read.
> You'll learn one day.
If learning means acquring your so-called way of
thinking, then I'll choose to stay ignorant.
> > > Do al little research and take a history course, please. It sounds as
if
> > you
> > > watch cable Fox and MSNBC wayyyy toooo much.
> >
> > I don't watch much T.V. at all, hippie.
>
> Hippie! Ha. That's a laugh. Have me all figured out, don't you.
> You're a joke.
Would you prefer, spineless liberal cocksucker?
Or how about wanking communist pussy?
Take your pick.
> > > > > So while I do have a certain amount of pride in this country, part
> of
> > me
> > > > > is pissed off as hell about the apathy people display when they
tout
> > the
> > > > > "freedom" of America when that's not entirely the case.
> > > >
> > > > That is EXACTLY the kind of viewpoint
> > > > that I wish more people had.
> > > >
> > > > People in this country are apathetic, because
> > > > that is how the liberals want them to be.
> > >
> > > People are apathetic in this country because they are stupid and
> placted,
> > > just as the conservatives want them to be.You think the expression
about
> >
> > Now, just as you liberal freaks want to force them
> > to be.
>
> Oh yeah, it's the liberals who want to cut education spending.
> We're you born this dumb? Or do you work at it?
No, the liberals want to make the people pay more
taxes for more education spending, instead of
encouraging competition in the private education
market, which would make for higher educational
standards.
God forbid we do that... someone's self-esteem might
get bruised, and then their whole day will just be
ruined.
> > I loved the ad campaign where children were asking
> > their mothers for more "arsenic", and "salmonella".
> >
> > That was rich. And it was a liberal campaign.
> >
> > > women ..
> > > "keep them barefoot and pregnant" is a liberal point of view?
> > > Hell no. Yet it is this same logic that dictates conservative policy.
> > > "keep them placted and busy while we raid the kitchen and up our
> profits"
> > >
> > > You think conservatives want people to become educated?
> > > Look at their education bills. They don't want you to have a clue
about
> > the
> > > true history of this country. Because if you did, you'd realize what
> true
> > > scoundrels they are. You sound as if you are their poster boy.
> > >
> > > You need to hit the books pal, and open your mind.
> >
> > You need to stop relying on LSD to open your mind,
> > liberal freak.
>
> Good answer. It proves without a doubt that you really don't know sh%t
about
> what you're talking.
> Go talk to the commode.
In other words, you have no way to back up your
own tripe. Typical of liberals. I can't wait
until the next congressional election... you
freaks are going to get creamed.
> > > > Liberals in this country want you to think
> > > > that you cannot make it without them. They
> > > > want people to think that more govt. == more
> > > > freedom. The reason for this is simple: they
> > > > want job security, and they want control,
> > > > because that leads to... you guessed it, more
> > > > money in their pockets. After all, it's our
> > > > money... why the hell should we have it?
> > >
> > > See my reasons for American apathy above.
> > > You are a prime example.
> >
> > No, people like you are the problem. You brains
> > are so fucked up on dope, you can think straight.
>
> I don't do drugs. You might want to look into though.
> The kind that require a prescription.
Ah, so you are genuinely stupid then, without the
help of drugs. Congrats, that's quite an accomplishment.
> > > > For example, have you noticed that Daschle and
> > > > Gephart have STILL been going on and on about
> > > > "Global Warming"? Have you heard that it was
> > > > discovered that the temperature measurements
> > > > around the globe were highly flawed when that
> > > > "conclusion" was reached?
> > >
> > > Oh yeah. There is no such thing as global warming.
> >
> > There isn't. And it was also recently discovered
> > that the "hole" in the ozone layer has mysteriously
> > "fixed itself".
>
> That commode is getting full, huh?
>
> > The fact of the matter is, all of the liberal
> > Dems like you are full of BS (Barbara Streisand)
> > bullshit.
>
> I don't really like Barbara S.
>
> > > No such thing as unsafe working conditions.
> >
> > Life is a risk. You can't save everyone. If
> > you're stupid enough to drink bugspray, then
> > Darwin's principle kicks in.
>
> You're typical to a fault.
> --and don't deserve a second thought, as yours have no basis in fact.
>
> > > No such thing <insert endless list of facts that conservatives deny
> here>
>
> [snipped for the sake of sanity]
> I don't do battles of wits with unarmed men.
You call this a battle? I was going easy on
you, simply because this is way off topic for
this group, and you're the kind of person who
won't listen to reason anyway, so why should I
waste my time?
Oh, BTW dufus, eat this:
http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/viewrecord?8086
Looks like the libs are full of shit about yet one
more thing. How typical.
Morons, all of you.
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From: "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does XP stands for ???
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:31:59 +1200
George Alexeief wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Zsolt"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I've seen some rather good, although 'unofficial' explanations about the
>>XP abbreviation in Windows XP. Let's try to collect them in this thread.
>>Anybody, who has other good idead, please post them here!
>>To kick-off the collection, some idea's I've seen so far on this
>>newsgroup: eXPerimental
>>eXtra Problems included
>>eXtremely Pathetic
>>
>>
>
> "eXtra Production" - as in the only reason XP exists is to obsolete
> slightly-old hardware, to force upgrades and new hardware purchases.
> HP's CEO Fiorini said as much today on cnet.com. .... Since it needs at
> least a 450 mHz machine with 256mB RAM, XP will bring the hardware sector
> out of its economic slump.
>
> I'd rather have my machine running Linux, and then *I* get to decide, not
> Microsoft, when it's time to upgrade my hardware.
>
> Linux = user sovereignty, not corporate control.
>
With the inclusion of raw sockets, its now known as eXPloitation
Matthew Gardiner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Chaney)
Crossposted-To: soc.singles
Subject: spot the american psycho
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:27:57 GMT
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:10:28 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Did Errunt R Kookla ever tell you about how he got mad and threw a drink at
the wall in a Russian airport one day?
-- Steve
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This site is just TOO COOL for a counter! http://www.self-acceptance.org
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"Let 'em eat eep" - Lady Veteran
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:37:56 -0700
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "JamesW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "JS \\ PL"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says...
> > >
> > > "drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > >
> > > > >put the file up on an internet server so we can all see this mythical
> > > 200mhz
> > > > >system with 16 mb RAM you claim to have.
> > > >
> > > > You want a picture of my desktop?
> > > >
> > > > >While your at it, lets see how small the HD is. You claim it's 1gb
> which
> > > > >doesn't jive with system sold during the 200mhz era.
> > > > >right click on your c: in explorer, hit alt-print screen paste into
> > > > >paint.....
> > > >
> > > > OK, I admit I lied. It's 1.26GB. Are you happy now?
> > >
> > > I knew you were lying. But I also know your still lying. That's pretty
> sad.
> > > Saying you have a SMALLER system than you actually have. Pathetic.
> > >
> > Hmmm, I have a 200MHz machine that came with a 1.2GB HD and would have
> > come with 16MB of RAM too but I ordered it with a mighty 32! It's been
> > upgraded over time so I no longer have the original configuration but
> > such machines did exist - BTW it wasn't an x86/Doze box - maybe that
> > explains drsquare's machine too?
>
> What system is that?
>
> There may be a lot of systems like that, but they are old. I don't think
> that a standard level computer bought in the last 3 - 4 years wouldn't be
> able to handle XP.
Except my wifes HP 8175... 48Mb ram, 6Gb harddrive.... winmodem...
cd-rom
PII-mmx.... it runs too slow with win98se on it as it is. Doubt that it
would do any better under XP.
--
V
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From: "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:37:09 +1200
Stephen S. Edwards II wrote:
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
>>Stephen S. Edwards II wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>>news:9g8v9n$av3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>YATY = Yet Another Typical Yank
>>>>
>>>>You have now been kill filed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Take notes, people. Defeatist and
>>>non-confrontational types are
>>>always defeated.
>>>
>>I didn't killfile you, I jus wanted to hear another pathetic reply.
>>
>
> Stating that you have *PLONK!*'ed someone, only
> to reply yet again, is absolutely absurd. If you
> didn't put me in your filter, then why the fuck
> did you say so? It speaks volumes about your
> credibility.
>
>
>>btw, wtf is it with the II after your name?
>>
>
> My father's name is Stephen S. Edwards. I'll
> let you do the math.
Why not have an original name?
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:39:41 -0400
chrisv wrote:
>
> "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> What's true? Are you suggesting that America was saved because of
> >> Russia???
> >>
> >> First off, the Nazis didn't kill 20 million Russians. Stalin killed
> >> 20 million Russians by leaving them out in the freezing elements
> >> without supplies for extended periods of time.
> >>
> >> Nazi Germany and Japan needed petro and that petro came from the east
> >> indies region of the world where American military was in full force.
> >>
> >> America had Germany both by power and by strategic positioning.
> >>
> >> Europe can thank the good ol' USofA for saving the world!
> >>
> >> End of story!
> >
> >Ask any ANZAC who were the biggest whiners and complainers in the second
> >world war. The US didnot save the world actually, so pull your head in and
> >re-read history without all the pro-US propaganda.
>
> We sure were a huge factor, possibly the deciding factor.
>
> Somewhere between the rantings of the zeolots lies the truth.
The deciding factor was
a) Kaiser shipyards
--producing cargo vessels so quickly that the centuries-old shipyards
were embarassed.
Kaiser developed an assembly line process, by making pre-fab
subassemblies off-site, and shipping them in by rail, and then
rivetting/welding them together.
After the process got smoothed out, the total time from laying
the keel to launching the ship was under 72 hours (3 days).
In contrast, Newport News took 14 DAYS to produce a ship
made from the SAME blueprints. (V-2 "Liberty" ships, and
later, the larger V-3 "Victory" ships).
To summarize: Kaiser, on a SINGLE set of ways, produced
9 1/3 ships in the same time period which Newport news
produced only 2.
b) Detroit.
The entire automotive industry in Detroit was converted into
making Tanks, B-24 Liberators (The aircraft industry laughed when
Ford announced that they would build aircraft using an Assembly-line
process), and Machineguns
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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