Linux-Advocacy Digest #265, Volume #35 Fri, 15 Jun 01 14:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: "This will not happen again," said the Microsoft spokesperson. "Period." ("Todd")
Re: More microsoft innovation (Dan)
Re: the world thinks there is only windows. yahoo sucks. ("Todd")
Re: So what software is the NYSE running ? (Todd Merritt)
Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed (Peter
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed (Peter
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: So what software is the NYSE running ? (Colin Day)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Tim Adams)
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. (Colin Day)
Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust! (drsquare)
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. (drsquare)
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. (drsquare)
Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed (drsquare)
Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed (drsquare)
Re: Linux wins again.... (drsquare)
Re: Linux wins again.... (drsquare)
Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags (drsquare)
Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags (drsquare)
Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags (drsquare)
Re: OT: The point of all of this... (was Re: Where is American pride?) (drsquare)
Re: OT: The point of all of this... (was Re: Where is American pride?) (drsquare)
Re: Windows makes good coasters (drsquare)
Re: Windows makes good coasters (drsquare)
Re: Windows makes good coasters (drsquare)
Re: Windows makes good coasters (drsquare)
Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!! (drsquare)
Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!! (drsquare)
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: "This will not happen again," said the Microsoft spokesperson. "Period."
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:43:37 +0800
Reply-To: "Todd" <todd<remove>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Anonymous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6270970.html?tag=tp_pr
>
> Hey everyone! Microsoft said they will NEVER
> make a botched patch again!
> How reassuring!
>
> Let's all set our watches now and see
> how long before this promise is broken!
Ummm... they did *NOT* say "promise".
They said 'said'.
Learn the f@#$ing english language.
-Todd
>
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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More microsoft innovation
Date: 15 Jun 2001 12:01:03 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sandman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Surely you see the difference in a browser implementation where you build
> in the function of setting colors and fonts and changing the content.
> Netscape has this "What's related", it's basicvally the same thing as NS is
> pulling, but it's -awa- from the webpage. Changing colors and fonts are for
> some a neccesity in order to read your page. Autodetecting words and
> linking them to MS sites falls into the "bad sport" arena, and they should
> have made a different implementation of that idea.
I think you still don't understand what the Smart Tags do.
The "content" of a page is not changed. And it's not just "MS sites" -
you can go directly to the home page of the company in question. The
other info - "Company News", "Company Report", "Stock Quote" does take
you to related news on MSN, but so what? It has to go somewhere.
Would you feel better if it went to Yahoo? Or Apple (it they had a
news page)? If I want an instant stock quote it doesn't make any
difference to me where it comes from
Also, it's OFF by default. It must be turned ON first.
It's a nice feature that many people will find useful. Those that
don't can turn it back OFF (the default). It's not the big deal some
folks here seem to think it is.
Dan
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: the world thinks there is only windows. yahoo sucks.
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:44:44 +0800
Reply-To: "Todd" <todd<remove>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"top@pp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Lets all write to yahoo and complain. I am just had it with
> sites like yahoo that only supports windows.
>
> click on this site and you'll get an error that it is only supported
> on windoz.
>
> http://vision.yahoo.com/?id=1457763&aid=5016
>
> yahoo is as stupid as any business out there which only makes its
> web pages to one platform.
They are not stupid.
They are smart.
They tailor their business to 90% of the browsers out there.
Ever heard of the 80-20 rule? A good rule to abide by.
You linux users will never understand. <sigh>
-Todd
>
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From: Todd Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: So what software is the NYSE running ?
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:11:05 -0700
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Christopher L. Estep wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > I highly doubt that... as UNIX and Apache are primarily the predominant
> > O/S and webserver software out there.
> > You need big iron for heavy volume trading.
> > So far that is all that is running,... BIG IRON.
>
> Did you know that a Windows 2000 variant of Apache exists?
>
Did you know that it is not good ?
> Also, the biggest reason why there is still lots of mainframe software and
> hardware is because of *old code* (the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
> school was born in mainframe computing) that either doesn't convert well, or
> convert at all, to a GUI environment (*any* GUI environment, including X).
>
> Mainframe compuing is *not* cost-effective compared to server farms
> clustered properly (this applies to *any* OS that supports clustering, not
> just Datacenter Server) as companies like DST Innovis
> (http://www.dstinnovis.com/partners) prove every day.
>
> Also, note that the top 50 machines in TPC-C and TPC-H benchmarks are *not*
> mainframes.
>
> ASCI White, the second most powerful supercomputer on the planet, is *not* a
> mainframe, but consists of 9,200 Intel Pentium Pros.
>
You clearly have no clue. ASCI White is an IBM SP, ie running AIX and
RS/6000 processors, and it's 8192 not 9200. ASCI red, which is number 2
is running on Intel, but it is running paragon, not and MS crap. Paragon
presents all 9200 individual computers as one operating system image, not
9200 seperate instances.
> Sandia has asked Microsoft to port XP Datacenter Server to their
> supercomputers.
>
Oh yeah, cuz that's what everybody runs on their supercomputers...you
nimrod. Take a look at the Top 500
http://www.top500.org/list/2000/11. Supercomputers are manufactured by
companies that delevop their own hardware, and hence their own OS (IRIX,
HP-UX, AIX.....), there is in fact only one site on that list running on
Intel hardware.
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:40:40 +0200
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Peter Köhlmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Chad Myers wrote:
>> >
>> > Who cares what you run in your home. We're talking about
>> > real businesses making critical decisions that effect their
>> > bottom line. It appears that they don't chose Linux.
>> >
>>
>> Yeah, yeah, Chad. By your definition IBM is no *real* business.
>
> No, they're a real business, they just make poor decisions.
> I'm talking about Linux-based companies, of which IBM is not.
You talked about "real business", *not* about linux-based companies.
Learn to read your own writings, moron
>
>> Moron.
>
> At least I can read and have basic readic comprehension skills,
> which you obviously do not posses.
>
That you do not possess these skills you demonstrated here just fine
But I will make allowances, youre a windows-user. They can´t typically
read (with few excemptions)
Yes Chad, you are dumb, you are a windows user, you are a moron
Tell me Chad, does Outhouse Fast Shit you are using already have a
working killfile? Last time I checked it did not.
Lying moron
Peter
--
The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:48:17 +0200
Jon Johansan wrote:
> I so LOVE it when someone claims to have killfiled (or better yet,
> actually done it) - it is the ultimate proof that that person is not
> willing to consider anything but what they believe is true - very blind
> indeed...
No, it simply means that someone will not read any longer the
talkings out of the ass of someone, like Aaron Kookis, which I
have killfiled (that jerk is really dumb, racist and a wintroll to boot)
Your postings are not at all more intelligent, it just happens
that you do not use a sig as annoying as A. Kookis.
Otherwise you would have been a long time in /dev/null
Peter
--
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons,
For thou art crunchy, and good with ketchup!
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:53:59 +0200
Jon Johansan wrote:
>
> "Peter Köhlmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Jon Johansan wrote:
>
> Are you that stupid for real or just on-line?
>
> Someone else made the claim - it's THEIR responsibility to back it up.
>
>
No.
If your Name is Chad Myers or Jon Johansan, it is up to *you*.
You have to prove everything you say here, otherwise you won´t be
believed.
Lets say that Chad claims 1 + 1 = 2
Thats just a claim on Chads part, since he is a proven wintroll I will
not believe him. He has to prove his claim. Same goes for you.
You have to prove everything beyond every reasonable doubt.
Peter
--
If Windows is the answer then it probably has been a stupid question
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From: Colin Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: So what software is the NYSE running ?
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:16:43 -0400
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Colin Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Usually, it says something about a file being used by another patch.
> > >
> > > I've seen others flash up about how it couldn't execute a command or
> > > script or something. They just flash by in the countless lines of
> > > useless crap output it displays as its hosing the OS and blowing away
> > > and hope of ever booting again.
> > >
> >
> > Ever try redirecting standard error to a floppy?
>
> Why should I have to? No I have to do even more things to ensure
> that the broken patch manager in Solaris does its job correctly.
You were complaining that you couldn't read the error messages. I was
just suggesting a way to direct them to a file that you could read at
leisure.
Colin Day
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Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
From: Tim Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:10:59 GMT
in article 3U4W6.81511$[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Daniel Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 6/14/01 11:38
AM:
> "Tim Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> in article evMV6.79854$[EMAIL PROTECTED],
>> Daniel Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 6/13/01 12:26
>> PM:
> [snip]
>>>> but the original claim was 'using PDF's to create web pages, not
> 'having
>>>> links to PDF files on a web page.
>>>
>>> It's the same thing.
>>>
>>>> Now show us a link to a PDF web page.
>>>
>>> Oh, if you insist:
>>>
>>>
> http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/DeveloperTools/ProjectBuilder/Abo
>>> utBox/AboutBox.pdf
>>>
>>
>> Try again - that was a link to a pdf file for downloading NOT a link to a
>> web page. There is a difference you know. Or do you know?
>
> You seem to think that web pages are *not* downloaded.
Web pages are _typically_ displayed on the monitor. Downloading _typically_
refers to transferring a file from one location and saving it on your HD.
> This is
> not so. If your browser offers to save the file that link points to
> when you click on it, it's because your browser does not have
> Adobe's plugin installed.
which would merely displays the _file on my screen_ NOT a web page.
>
> If you do, you should be able to click on such links and
> go to them in the usual fashion. They can contain links to
> other pages, even.
>
>> The page itself (not the downloaded file) was NOT created as a PDF file.
>
> Sure it was.
So the following source from that page is pdf source code?
<TITLE>Index of
/techpubs/macosx/DeveloperTools/ProjectBuilder/AboutBox/</TITLE>
<h1>Index of /techpubs/macosx/DeveloperTools/ProjectBuilder/AboutBox/</h1>
<PRE><IMG SRC="/mc-icons/blank.gif" ALT=" "> Name
Last modified Size Description
> It's a PDF file whether you download it or not,
> though obviously you can only view it if you do download it-
> just like with HTML.
>
> It's true that there are *other* pages on Apple's site
> which are in HTML.
To the best of my knowledge ALL of Apple's web pages are done in some form
of HTML. The fact that Adobe's plug in allow you to view PDF file within
your browser does NOT make that file a web page.
>
> [snip]
>
>
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From: Colin Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:18:28 -0400
drsquare wrote:
>
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:03:45 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> (Colin Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >Edward Rosten wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> (You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.) (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)
> >>
> >> /d{def}def/f{/Times-Roman findfont s scalefont setfont}d/s{10}d/r{roll}d f 5 -1
> >> r 230 350 moveto 0 1 179{2 1 r dup show 2 1 r 88 rotate 4 mul 0 rmoveto}for/s 15
> >> d f pop 240 420 moveto 0 1 3 {4 2 1 r sub -1 r show}for showpage
> >
> >Is that Postscript? I know a tiny bit of it from using psplot in LATeX.
>
> Yeah, it swirls the psycho-rats sentence around from the centre with a
> little square in the middle, then his address comes up in the middle.
Cool!
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:20 +0100
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:04:02 +0200, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"Colin Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > Well, NT at one point was supposed to kill Unix. (Somehow, I don't
>> > think it quite succeeded in its objective...)
>> >
>> > :-)
>> >
>>
>> Does NT even have a kill command? Can't kill much without
>> a kill command.
>>
>
>It has, but only on the resource kit.
Which costs how much more?
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:21 +0100
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:31:27 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("JS \\ PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> You'd prefer it if I said I had a BIGGER system than I actually had?
>> >> Wouldn't that be even MORE pathetic?
>> >
>> >I'd prefer that you didn't lie. Now go to your room.
>>
>> What the hell are you on?
>
>I said get your ass in your room, for the rest of the day!
I'm warning you, meths and computers don't mix.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:22 +0100
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:08:10 +0200, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> Except my wifes HP 8175... 48Mb ram, 6Gb harddrive.... winmodem...
>> cd-rom
>> PII-mmx.... it runs too slow with win98se on it as it is. Doubt that it
>> would do any better under XP.
>
>Get more RAM, 48Mb is not really adeque even for Win98.
I run 98 with 28MB of RAM, and as long as I don't do anything too
extravagant it runs fine.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:22 +0100
On 15 Jun 2001 10:42:13 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>I so LOVE it when someone claims to have killfiled (or better yet, actually
>done it) - it is the ultimate proof that that person is not willing to
>consider anything but what they believe is true - very blind indeed...
Such as Chad Myers.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:23 +0100
On 15 Jun 2001 10:57:02 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"Anonymous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I would view any numbers concerning market
>> share of Linux compared to Windows with great
>> skepticism. How can IDC or anyone else possibly
>> know about all the RedHat systems I installed
>> in my home? I downloaded all the software
>> off of a mirror site and installed them on all
>> 5 of my machines in my house.
>
>if you read the report you know that that is not what they are trying to
>determine.
What ARE they trying to determine then?
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux wins again....
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:23 +0100
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:46:16 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Linux Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "drsquare"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Linux stops Solaris and the best the over priced W2K can do is come
>>>close to a tie on one benchmark while falling far behind on another!
>>
>> Benchmarks are bollocks.
>
>Of course you have documented evidance to show these benchmarks as
>flawed???
>
>Funny how winvocates will use any benchmark that shows MS software as
>faster, no mater how flawed, as God's proof that MS software is better
>(think mindcraft tests), but claim that benchmarks are worthless when
>benchmarks show otherwise. The benchmarks match tests and production
>rates that I have seen in the real world.
Erm, I'm not a winvocate.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux wins again....
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:24 +0100
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:10:25 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
(pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>drsquare wrote:
>> Benchmarks are bollocks.
>
>You have such a way with words and reasoned arguments. Ever considered
>becoming a politician ?
I have.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:25 +0100
On 15 Jun 2001 10:29:20 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > contains more diverse types of information?
>> >
>> > there is a decision to be made here?
>>
>> No. The hard copy is far superior, if you can afford it.
>
>I do not believe the hard copy is superior, let alone "far superiour"
>
>The hard copy (printed) cannot play the sound whales make or let me watch
>the Zapruder film to judge whether he recoiled backwards from a front side
>bullet strike.
Wow, that's really important.
> hard copy does not make it effortless to jump from one topic
>to a related and hyperlinked other topic (likely in a seperate volume). Hard
You're right. Actually looking something up in an index is SO
difficult.
>copy is out of date by the time it leaves the printing press and is
>delivered to me.
What? By the time it's delivered, what's out of date? Has something in
history suddenly changed?
>Hard copy does not link to the Internet where the most
>recent news can be found.
Recent news? "News" is hardly something you would include in an
encyclopedia.
>I do not agree with you, even ignoring price.
Ignoring price? How much would it cost to print out an entire DVD
encyclopedia? And then to hole-punch/bind it all?
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:27 +0100
On 15 Jun 2001 10:31:03 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:9g7msk$94t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >>> there is a decision to be made here?
>> >>
>> >>No. The hard copy is far superior, if you can afford it.
>> >
>> > No, it's not.
>>
>> It is in some ways. Print is much easier to read than a
>> computer screen due having a much higher resoulution and contrast.
>
>Obviously you have never read from a LCD screen using ClearType. Whoa!
Better than paper? I think not.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:28 +0100
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:10:10 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("JS \\ PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> Also, books are better in that you don't have to launch up your
>computer
>> >> etc every time you want to look at something, and the pictures are
>> >> generally better quality.
>> >
>> >That is true.
>>
>> Also, you can't pirate a book!
>
>I just typed "book" into Agent and found out yes indeedy you can pirate a
>book. You can pirate A LOT of books.
How do you do that?
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: The point of all of this... (was Re: Where is American pride?)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:29 +0100
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:44:37 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
(Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>drsquare wrote:
>> >> >Amen, brother!!! A country without patriotism is east pickins.
>> >>
>> >> It was patriotism that caused the war in the first place.
>> >
>> >Let us put it another way.... everyone invade Holland where you live and
>> >see if anyone will defend.
>>
>> Why would anyone invade? And what has patriotism got to do with
>> defending? And since when do I live in Holland?
>
>
>Pipe down, tulip boy!
Well, if you can't answer those questions, there's no point
continuing. *thread/poster plonk*
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: The point of all of this... (was Re: Where is American pride?)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:30 +0100
On 15 Jun 2001 15:28:26 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
(Stephen Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>By definition, it is not possible to be patriotic for another country.
>
>As to European apathy and lack of patriotism: do you support the
>European `rapid reaction force', which has been criticised by the US
>because it it separate from NATO? Have you ever actually spoken to a
>German, an Irishman, or a Finn about what it means to be European?
No, all his knowledge of Europe comes from what he was brainwashed to
believe at school.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:30 +0100
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 03:08:00 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("JS \\ PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >>>Otherwise you should get a modem where the designers aren't in bed with
>> >>>microsoft.
>> >>
>> >>Which is yet more money.
>> >
>> >Some of us have the means to acquire $30.
>>
>> And some of us have better things to spend £30 on than things that
>> shouldn't have to be done in the first place.
>
>Is that what your dad tells you when you ask him to get you a new modem for
>his computer? Go mow a lawn.
*thread&poster plonk*
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:31 +0100
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 22:53:56 +1200, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > Joe User had enough trouble using DOS, bash is more complicated
>> >
>> >
>> Howso?
>> Dos lacks up-arrow command history
>
>Doskey can be loaded.
How
>> and command search,
>
>What do you mean?
Searching for commands.
>> this makes DOS
>> *harder* to use.
>> Dos is a single user system, this makes Dos *harder* to use.
>
>When I'm in a directory in DOS and want to run an executable in that
>directory, I type the name of that executable. When I use bash, I have to
>do ./executable
Unless you have '.' in your path, which is by default not there as it
makes it easier to run rogue programs. At least try and know something
about what you're talking about before you come ranting and raving in
here.
>DOS is stupider than bash, which tends to make it easier to get a working
>knowledge faster (less commands to remember)
No, it's stupider, meaning it's harder to get a working knowledge, as
there is nothing there to get a working knowledge from.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:32 +0100
On 15 Jun 2001 10:13:04 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> >the OS, or included with the hardware.
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, but if you've lost your disk...
>> >
>> >Download them? DOH
>>
>> What if the modem drivers were on the same disk!
>
>Hayes Generic Modem - nothing to download.
>Perhaps, more likely, your modem is already on the list of thousands
>supported.
Not if it's a winmodem.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:36 +0100
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:52:56 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
([EMAIL PROTECTED] ()) wrote:
>On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 05:13:28 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>And some of us have better things to spend £30 on than things that
>>>>shouldn't have to be done in the first place.
>>>
>>>and would rather whine and bitch, valueing one's time at $2/hr.
>>
>>What the hell are you talking about?
>
>whining and bitching and struggling for 16 hours vs. plopping $30 down
>for a real modem. (albeit a used 56K modem)
Why should I have to spend $30 in the first place?
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:37 +0100
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:49:57 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "drsquare"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Lager is good for one thing. It goes well with hot curries. It seems to
>>>be rather better than water at calming the heat, but other than that,
>>>I'd prefer a bitter or ale any day.
>>
>> What? NO beer goes well with curries. The flavours completely clash. ANY
>> beer drunk with curry tastes like shit. Especially lager.
>
>We'll have to disagree with this one.
>
>Besides, it is traditional British food: lager and british curry.
That doesn't mean it clashes and tastes like shit.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26:38 +0100
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:18:40 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Pidcock)) wrote:
>On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:49:57 +0100, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>>>Lager is good for one thing. It goes well with hot curries. It seems to
>>>>be rather better than water at calming the heat, but other than that,
>>>>I'd prefer a bitter or ale any day.
>>>
>>> What? NO beer goes well with curries. The flavours completely clash. ANY
>>> beer drunk with curry tastes like shit. Especially lager.
>>
>>We'll have to disagree with this one.
>>
>>Besides, it is traditional British food: lager and british curry.
>
>I'll side with Ed on this one. Especially indian lager and curry:
>very good combination.
No, it's a terrible combination. It's like toothpaste and orange
juice.
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