winmodems are cheap, nastry and brain dead by design, and only work
with windoe$ drivers.  They were a bad idea right from the start, god
knows why they became so popular, even with the manufacturers.  (I
would personally be embarrassed to be associated with those things
were I a hardware producer).  Throw them away, they are worthless bits
of junk.

Unfortunately they are now doing the same with printers...  making
them brain-dead and cpu/operating system dependent.  Sure, the result
is a cheap and short-term-affordable shiny new piece of hardware for
your computer, but you get what you pay for - mindless, useless bits
of junk that suck power off your motherboard and don't actually do
much of any use without using a propriatory driver that only works
with a particular version of a propriatory and unreliable operating
system, and does so by denigrating the overall performance and
capability of the rest of your system.

The motto is:  winmodem?  you loose.

Get yourselves a real true-blue haydes-compatable modem.  That way
you'll have something that will always work with standard software for
any operating system you care to use now and well into the future.

  [Mind you, I recall noticing something on freshmeat a few months ago
  about someone attempting to write a linux driver for these things,
  but I have no idea on the status of that.  Bad, bad idea anyway, so
  I wouldn't encourange anyone to follow this up.]

Sorry for the bad news, but now you all know.

Can we drop this subject now? :)  Next problem...

On Fri Oct 08 1999 at 11:03, Soeren Friis-Nielsen wrote:

> I have the exact same problem! I use Debian 2.1 with kernel 2.2.x. I get
> to the part where I have just verified my username and passwd and then I'm
> disconnected. This happens using kppp. If I use dunc and then starts pppd
> manually it doesn't happen but I don't seem to be able to use my ppp
> connection...
> 
> On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, Kirchner, Eric C. wrote:
> 
> > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:38:43 -0500
> > From: "Kirchner, Eric C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: dial up connection
> >
> > Can someone give me some advice on how to diagnose the problems i am having
> > connecting to my ISP in RH 6.0
> >
> > it is a PPP connection, and they claim that all that is needed is the name
> > and passwd... they said they dont know how to do it in Linux.  i connect
> > fine in windows..
> > The modem appears to make a connection (i hear the beeps and buzzes then
> > silence)... 30 seconds after it "connects" it will just disconnect.. is
> > there a way to login totally manually (like i used to be able to do in dos
> > based termainal programs )  is this a possible problem with my modem being a
> > win modem?  I want to say it is a cirrus modem, but i am not sure and dont
> > have that information in front of me (i apologize for that)...
> >
> > Any suggestions?

Cheers
Tony

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