On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 06:39, Dave Robillard wrote: > On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 00:10, Michael Ost wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 15:56, Dave Robillard wrote: > > > I don't think I could possibly care less who uses 'linux audio'. I > > > don't really think anyone else here should either - we should be aiming > > > to build the best system possible, period. Not saying "look! popular > > > software the people pay money for does this; therefore we must too!" > > > > I'm with a company trying to make money off of linux audio. While I > > enjoy the technical/academic discursion (though lots get the > > subject-line only review! %), I'd like to think this list could support > > those who mix the market with idealism.... like, well, me. > > > > > If anything, we should be looking at the proprietary music software > > > world to make sure we avoid repeating their mistakes (ridiculous > > > duplication of effort, lock-in, and horrid UIs for example), not > > > duplicating them just because. (Not to say we can't take positive > > > things from that world too though) > > > > Should I drop off the list? I ain't the same 'we' you are, I guess. > > > > While it's true that the proprietary world has made lots of bad s/w, we > > in the biz have also made lots of great stuff. > > Hence why I specifically said we can take positive things from the > proprietary software world too. You really just want to precisely > duplicate all popular proprietary software, just because? I guess we > aren't the same "we". > > > If y'all care (and I think you should) the best way to encourage the > > proprietary folks to adopt and put energy into open source efforts is to > > focus on libraries and not apps. > > I have to ask: if you want to develop everything exactly like the > popular proprietary Windows/MacOS software, and want to facilitate > proprietary audio software under linux... why the linux in the first > place? Obviously you don't care about 'software freedom' all that much, > so what's the point? > > If you want a system with a bunch of proprietary audio software, why the > *#$#@ would you be running linux?? > > That nice you think I should want proprietary software to get developed > for linux. Well, I don't. IMHO that amounts to throwing away the > single advantage "we" have, which sounds pretty stupid to me. > > Go develop proprietary software on OSX or something.
I guess this counts as a flame...? Wow. What vitriol. Tone it down if you want a discussion. - mo