On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 21:48, Josef Bacik <jo...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 07:43:27PM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:04:31AM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
>> > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 09:25, Ric Wheeler <rwhee...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Second question is why is checking in /sys a big deal, would ??you 
>> > > prefer an
>> > > interface like we did for alignment in libblkid?
>> >
>> > It's about knowing what's behind the 'nodev' major == 0 of a btrfs
>> > mount. There is no way to get that from /sys or anywhere else at the
>> > moment.
>> >
>> > Usually filesystems backed by a disk have the dev_t of the device, or
>> > the fake block devices like md/dm/raid have their own major and the
>> > slaves/ directory pointing to the devices.
>> >
>> > This is not only about readahead, it's every other tool, that needs to
>> > know what kind of disks are behind a btrfs 'nodev' major == 0 mount.
>>
>> Thanks for explaining the problem.  It's one that affects everything
>> with more than one underlying block device, so adding a
>> filesystem-specific ioctl hack is not a good idea.  As mentioned in this
>> mail we already have a solution for that - the block device slaves
>> links used for raid and volume managers.  The most logical fix is to
>> re-use that for btrfs as well and stop it from abusing the anonymous
>> block major that was never intended for block based filesystems (and
>> already has caused trouble in other areas).  One way to to this might
>> be to allocate a block major for btrfs that only gets used for
>> representing these links.
>>
>
> Ok I've spent a few hours on this and I'm hitting a wall.  In order to get the
> sort of /sys/block/btrfs-# sort of thing I have to do
>
> 1) register_blkdev to get a major
> 2) setup a gendisk
> 3) do a bdget_disk
> 4) Loop through all of our devices and do a bd_claim_by_disk on each of them
>
> This sucks because for step #2 I have to have a request_queue for the disk.
> It's a bogus disk, and theres no way to not have a request_queue, so I'd have 
> to
> wire that up and put a bunch of WARN_ON()'s to make sure nobody is trying to
> write to our special disk (since I assume that if I go through all this crap 
> I'm
> going to end up with a /dev/btrfs-# that people are going to try to write to).
>
> So my question is, is this what we want?  Do I just need to quit bitching and
> make it work?  Or am I doing something wrong?  This is a completely new area 
> for
> me so I'm just looking around at what md/dm does and trying to mirror it for 
> my
> own uses, if thats not what I should be doing please tell me, otherwise this
> seems like alot of work for a very shitty solution to our problem.  Thanks,

Yeah, that matches what I was experiencing when thinking about the
options. Making a btrfs mount a fake blockdev of zero size seems like
a pretty weird hack, just get some 'dead' directories in sysfs. A
btrfs mount is just not a raw blockdev, and should probably not
pretend to be one.

I guess a statfs()-like call from the filesystem side and not the
block side, which can put out such information in some generic way,
would better fit here.

Kay
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