Some response to your criticism:

1. How would that hole fare with a fully battery-backed/flash-backed path (battery-backed or flash-backed HBA with disks with full power-loss protection, like the Intel S3500)? In such a situation (quite commonplace in server-land), power-loss should not cause any data loss since all data in the cache is guaranteed to be committed to non-volatile memory at some point (whether such assurances may be trusted is another matter entirely though, and well outside the scope of this discussion).

2. Fair point. I'd like to know his hardware, given how strongly hardware can influence things.

3. It's pretty obvious that the author of that blog is specifically targeting OLTP performance (explicit statement in intro, choice of benchmark, name and focus of blog), not common-case, and even states that in the first two paragraphs of his conclusion. The focus is somewhat less clear in said conclusion, namely, is he truly talking about general purpose use or is he talking about general purpose OLTP use?

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On 17/09/2015 01:20, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote:
On 2015-09-16 10:43, M G Berberich wrote:
Hello,

just for information. I stumbled about a rant about btrfs-performance:

http://blog.pgaddict.com/posts/friends-dont-let-friends-use-btrfs-for-oltp

    MfG
    bmg

It is worth noting a few things that were done incorrectly in this testing: 1. _NEVER_ turn off write barriers (nobarrier mount option), doing so subtly breaks the data integrity guarantees of _ALL_ filesystems, but especially so on COW filesystems like BTRFS. With this off, you will have a much higher chance that a power loss will cause data loss. It shouldn't be turned off unless you are also turning off write-caching in the hardware or know for certain that no write-reordering is done by the hardware (and almost all modern hardware does write-reordering for performance reasons). 2. He provides no comparison of any other filesystem with TRIM support turned on (it is very likely that all filesystems will demonstrate such performance drops. Based on that graph, it looks like the device doesn't support asynchronous trim commands). 3. He's testing it for a workload is a known and documented problem for BTRFS, and claiming that that means that it isn't worth considering as a general usage filesystem. Most people don't run RDBMS servers on their systems, and as such, such a workload is not worth considering for most people.

His points about the degree of performance jitter are valid however, as are the complaints of apparent CPU intensive stalls in the BTRFS code, and I occasionally see both on my own systems.


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