If you can suggest a dual (or better yet quad) USB3 bay that can be
bought on Amazon, I'll buy it now, and once that arrives, we can be
sure it's not the JMicron chipset.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:22 PM, cheater00 . <cheate...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The (dual) HDD bay and the chipset are, according to lsusb:
> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 152d:0551 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron
> USA Technology Corp.
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
>
> Not sure how to find out specific model numbers? I could open up the
> bay. OK I'll open up the bay.
> Good thing I have just the right screwdriver. It's a JMS551, and just
> for records sake, here's the manufacture info:
>
> JMS551
> 1120 LGAA2 A
> 572QV0024
>
> The laptop manual says it's either "Intel HM65 Express chipset with
> NEC USB 3.0 (select models only)" or "Intel HM65 Express chipset".
> Here are technical documents for my model:
> Manual: http://docdro.id/hG627JM
> "Intel chipset datasheet": http://docdro.id/yKRupYO
> Service guide: http://docdro.id/AuDgUdE
> Service guide, alt. ver.: http://docdro.id/WwQRpsH
>
> FWIW I'm using one of the USB3 ports on the left. The ones on the
> right are USB2.
>
> I've never used docdro.id so if it's not good let me know where to
> upload the PDFs to.
>
> autodefrag is on, yes. But I have been having issues before turning it
> on - I turned it on as a measure towards fixing the issues. I will
> turn it off and remount, then report. But I don't think that should be
> it. As you see the transfer speeds are minimal. They're *all* that's
> happening on the disk. Right now that's under 100 KB/sec and I'm still
> getting freezes albeit less. Also why would I be getting freezes when
> the transfer speeds jump up - just for them to drop again? Hmm, maybe
> utorrent has some sort of scheduler that gets preempted while the
> spike is happening, and some algorithm in it gets the wrong idea and
> turns some sort of flow control on, because it thinks it's hit some
> sort of physical transfer speed barrier. Also notice the upload and
> download both scale together, but that just might be how torrent
> works, maybe it just tries to be fair i.e. only uploads as much as it
> downloaded (scaled by a constant).
>
> The system is 32 bit because I installed ubuntu 6 one day and just
> kept on upgrading. I keep on telling myself I'll update to 64 bits,
> one of these days. But this laptop only has 8 gigs of ram, so no real
> reason to upgrade to 64 bit anyways. It's not like I need firefox to
> be able to eat 8 gb of ram whereas right now it can only eat 4. There
> is no simple upgrade path that I know of so it's either a fresh
> install or doing something like this: http://www.ewan.cc/?q=node/132
> -- I keep telling myself /one of these days/...
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Austin S Hemmelgarn
> <ahferro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-10-27 09:00, Henk Slager wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't have a lot experience with autodefrag, but as indicated by
>>> Austin, expect a lot of full rewrites of files that are relatively
>>> slowly filled up by a torrent client, starting with a sparse file. So
>>> 1st advice would be to remove this option and run it as crontask at
>>> particular times.
>>>
>>> What SATA-USB bridge is between the harddisk and the PC motherboard ?
>>
>> I hadn't thought of this, but the specific adapter being used for the disk
>> can have a lot of impact on how it preforms.  I've personally had lots of
>> issues with JMicron chipsets (ranging from latency issues like what you are
>> seeing to sever data corruption), but have found that ASMedia ones tend to
>> be pretty much rock solid reliable and have good performance (although I
>> think they only do USB 3.0 adapters).
>>>
>>> Also what USB host chipset is on the PC motherboard ?
>>
>> If it's a Intel motherboard, the USB 2.0 ports are probably routed through
>> on-board hubs to the ports provided by whatever Intel calls their equivalent
>> of the south bridge these days, and the USB 3.0 ports are probably a mix of
>> Intel and ASMedia XHCI controllers (ASMedia was one of the first companies
>> to do an inexpensive standalone XHCI chip, so they're relatively popular for
>> extra USB 3.0 ports).  FWIW, the first generation of Intel XHCI chips had
>> some issues with older Linux kernels, although IIRC those issues were along
>> the lines of a port just disappearing after disconnecting whatever was
>> connected to it.
>>>
>>> Why don't you run 64-bit Ubuntu on this core i7 ?
>>
>> 64 versus 32 bit shouldn't cause anything like this to happen (although, if
>> it can be proven that it does, then that is a serious bug that needs to be
>> fixed).  That said, unless you have some desperate need to be running 32-bit
>> only, you should seriously look into updating to a 64-bit version, your
>> whole system should run faster, and Ubuntu has really good 32-bit
>> compatibility in the 64-bit version (which is part of why it's popular as a
>> support target for third party software like Steam).
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Austin S Hemmelgarn
>>> <ahferro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-10-26 22:00, cheater00 . wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> currently my computer freezes every several seconds for half a second
>>>>> or so. Using it feels like I'm playing musical chairs with the kernel.
>>>>> I have just one download happening on utorrent right now - this is
>>>>> what the graph looks like:
>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/LqhMtrJ.png
>>>>> and every time a new spike happens, a freeze happens just before
>>>>> that... that's the only time those freezes happen, too.
>>>>>
>>>> Do you have the 'autodefrag' mount option enabled?  If it is turned on,
>>>> then
>>>> that may be the problem.  Most bittorrent clients pre-allocate the space
>>>> for
>>>> a download, then write each block directly into the location it's
>>>> supposed
>>>> to be in the resultant download, which means depending on how it's
>>>> pre-allocating the space, that you end up with a large number of randomly
>>>> ordered writes into a single file, which in turn will trigger the
>>>> autodefrag
>>>> code, which can cause latency spikes when you're also hitting the disk at
>>>> the same time.
>>
>>
>>
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