Am 10.12.2015 13:41, schrieb Hugo Mills:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 07:08:51AM -0500, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote:
On 2015-12-09 16:48, S.J. wrote:
1. better practices, we really need to tell users, and documentation
writers, that using dd (or variant) to copy Btrfs volumes has a
consequence and should not be used to make copies.
2. Btrfs needs a better way to make a copy of a volume when there are
snapshots (including even rw snapshots); e.g. permit send/receive to
work on rw snapshots if the fs is ro mounted; e.g. a way to do
"recursive" send/receive.
3. Some way to fail gracefully, when there's ambiguity that cannot be
resolved. Once there are duplicate devs (dd or lvm snapshots, etc)
then there's simply no way to resolve the ambiguity automatically, and
the volume should just refuse to rw mount until the user resolves the
ambiguity. I think it's OK to fallback to ro mount (maybe) by default
in such a case rather than totally fail to mount.
About 3:
RO fallback for the second device/partitions is not good.
It won't stop confusing the two partitions, and even if both are RO,
thinking it's ok to read and then reading the wrong data is bad.

About 1 and 2 ... if 3 gets fulfilled, why?
DD itself is not a problem "if" the UUID is changed after it
(which is a command as simple as dd), and if someone doesn't
know that, he/she will notice when mount refuses to work
because UUID duplicate.
Unless things have changed significantly, changing the UUID on a BTRFS
image is not anywhere near as simple as copying it with dd.  The UUID
gets used internally somehow, and changing it would require rewriting
_all_ the metadata blocks.
    Indeed, but there is now a tool to do that. :) (btrfstune -u or -U)

    Hugo.

Yes, I meant that :)
I'm not saying that the tool is internally as simple as a
"dumb" dd block copy , but calling it certainly is.

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