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>Linux-Announce Digest #754, Volume #3            Thu, 30 Mar 00 18:13:07 EST
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>Contents:
>   RFD: comp.os.linux.embedded (John Peterson)
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>From: John Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Crossposted-To: 
>news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.arch.embedded,comp.dsp
>Subject: RFD: comp.os.linux.embedded
>Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:43:33 GMT
>
>                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
>                unmoderated group comp.os.linux.embedded
>
>This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
>world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.embedded. This
>is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
>Procedural details are below.
>
>Newsgroup line:
>comp.os.linux.embedded  Linux operating system on embedded hardware.
>
>RATIONALE: comp.os.linux.embedded
>
>It is becoming apparent that the Linux operating system has a
>very bright future in the area of embedded applications; internet
>appliances, wireless internet access, personal digital assistants,
>television set top boxes, medical instruments, dedicated control
>systems, etc. The potential for the growth of Linux in this area is
>highlighted by the fact that roughly 95% of all newly manufactured
>microcomputer chips are used for embedded applications.
>
>Industry has already embraced Linux for use in embedded applications
>for several reasons. The cost of licensing a commercial operating
>system and the power of the open source development model are some
>of the more prominent ones.  The TiVo personal video recorder,
>and the Empeg MP3 car player are two examples of consumer products
>that utilize embedded Linux. Samsung has recently announced plans to
>market the world's first Linux based PDA, named Yopy. Sony already
>uses Linux based systems for developing applications for it's
>Playstation2 game machine. The industry has further demonstrated
>it's commitment to Linux by the recent announcement of the formation
>of the Embedded Linux Consortium (ELC). It will consist of roughly
>50 member companies including IBM, Lineo, Motorola and Red Hat.
>
>Linux development has historically been oriented toward desktop
>and server applications and the current comp.os.linux.* hierarchy
>largely reflects this heritage. The unique nature of the technical
>issues of using Linux for embedded applications, and the potential
>for enormous growth are the two main reasons for the proposal of
>this new Usenet newsgroup.
>
>There will be some overlap of the charter of the proposed group
>will that of the existing comp.os.linux.portable newsgroup. This
>is unavoidable since some embedded devices are designed with the
>intent to provide portable computing resources of a rather general
>nature (PDAs for example). However, the universe of embedded devices
>that would not be classified as a portable computer is very large
>(e.g. TV set top boxes, medical instruments). It is the contention of
>the proponent that the proposed group is sufficiently disjoint from
>the existing comp.os.linux.portable newsgroup that the efficiency
>and viability of both groups would not be negatively impacted.
>
>Topics related to the use of Linux on embedded processors are
>already frequently discussed in several existing Usenet newsgroups
>and mailing lists. Statistics for such postings during the period
>from Jan 1, 2000 to Jan 31, 2000 are shown in the table below. The
>Usenet statistics were gathered using "Power" keyword searches
>from the Deja search engine at http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml
>
>   Newsgroup / Mailing List         Posts     Search Keyword
>   ========================         =====     ====== =======
>   comp.arch.embedded                 151     "Linux"
>   comp.dsp                            41     "Linux"
>   comp.realtime                       24     "Linux"
>   comp.os.linux.development.system    17     "embedded"
>   comp.os.linux.hardware               8     "embedded"
>   uclinux mailing list               135     N.A.
>                                      ---
>   Total Postings                     376
>
>   Average / Day                       12     (376/31)
>
>CHARTER: comp.os.linux.embedded
>
>The proposed newsgroup is intended to be a public forum for the
>discussion of the development and use of the Linux operating system
>on embedded hardware platforms. Topics considered appropriate for
>posting to the group might include (but are not limited to);
>
>   o Software Related Topics
>
>     + Embedded Linux distributions (e.g. Lineo Embedix, Mobile Linux)
>     + Software APIs for embedded Linux development (e.g. Cygnus EL/IX)
>     + Development of user applications for embedded Linux
>     + Integrated Development Environments for embedded Linux
>
>   o Hardware Related Topics
>
>     + Linux based emulators and debuggers for embedded hardware
>     + Existing Linux support for specific hardware
>     + Development of device drivers for embedded Linux
>
>Topics that might appear welcome on the surface, but in fact are not
>include; general questions about embedded hardware with no reference
>to Linux, questions about embedded or real time programming that
>are not specific to Linux, such as "What is multithreading?", or
>"What is a deadlock?", etc.
>
>One time postings of commercial product announcements or postings of
>a commercial nature that are replies to another posted inquiry will
>be considered appropriate. However, as in most other Usenet groups,
>repeated or in-discriminant posting of commercial advertisements will
>be prohibited. Postings using MIME, HTML formats are discouraged
>since many Usenet readers do not use web browsers. The posting of
>source code and binaries for the purpose of distribution shall be
>prohibited. However, a small snippet of source code or a small patch
>would be considered acceptable.
>
>END CHARTER.
>
>PROCEDURE:
>
>This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase
>of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
>should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue
>for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
>proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
>Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
>warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.
>
>All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.
>
>This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
>guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
>to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these
>documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
>questions about the process.
>
>DISTRIBUTION:
>
>This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
>
>   news.announce.newgroups
>   news.groups
>   comp.os.linux.announce
>   comp.os.linux.development.system
>   comp.os.linux.portable
>   comp.arch.embedded
>   comp.dsp
>
>This RFD has been posted to the following mailing lists;
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>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (discussion of Linux on systems without a MMU)
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>Proponent: John Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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