Developers make the bats, balls and gloves (baseball) and yet the users want to take part in creating/changing the rules of the game. I get the impression that the developers know what the users need & do not wish to be emcumbered by the expressed wishes, wants or needs of the users (read 'noise'). i.e. Developers want to be free to develop 'linux' in the direction developers want. Regards, user Chuck -- Researching GELM
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