Linux-Hardware Digest #794, Volume #9 Sun, 21 Mar 99 05:13:35 EST
Contents:
Re: Is Windows for idiots? (Kay Schulz)
Re: USR Courier V. Everything V. Viking (John Westerdale)
我是这样奸淫狗日的日本小荡妇的! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Red Hat 5.2 and AMD ("No Spam")
Re: Problems with Supra Modem (Rob Clark)
Asia Friend Finder ("Windy")
Re: Low-cost Auto-sensing HUB? (Tim Moore)
Re: Hard disk tweaking advice? (Tim Moore)
Re: Problems with Supra Modem (Allen)
Re: Unusual number of posts differing only in date ??? (Allen)
Re: Recommend Fast Ethernet Card (Colin)
How to interface XCopilot and Pilot? (James Meacham)
Network help! ("Joao P. Goncalves")
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (rocky@ro)
Re: Red Hat 5.2 and AMD (Bob Sully)
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (The Ghost In
The Machine)
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Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.year-2000
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:59:27 +0800
From: Kay Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is Windows for idiots?
Good to know
but the style files from the publisher contain Macros etc.
And then it doesn't work
Jonathan Revusky wrote:
> Kay Schulz wrote:
> >
> > Hiya
> >
> > Bloody Viking wrote:
> >
> > > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > : Heheh. Ah, I love Linux on my PC, 'tis true, but...
> > >
> > > I can appreciate the mainframer mentality, being on a low budget.
>
> > I run it on my notebook. MS crashes in average twice a day,
> > Linux never so far
> > But I have to keep MS because my publisher insists on winword files
>
> Kay,
>
> I think Corel WordPerfect or StarOffice will write files in Winword
> format. I used to do a lot of translation work and I mainly used
> WordPerfect and I always just saved in MS Word format and there was
> never problem. Even with fairly complex documents.
>
> Jonathan Revusky
> --
> Java and Delphi Consulting
> Make your .class files double-clickable
> with SmartJ
> http://www.bigfoot.com/~crystalline.solutions
--
// Do you suffer from long term memory loss ?
// - I don't remember:-( aus 'amnesia' von Chumbawamba )
Kay Schulz
Senior Software Architect
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John Westerdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USR Courier V. Everything V. Viking
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 05:16:23 GMT
I have a Viking ISA 56K modem, and am able to connect at 24, 26, and
occasionally 28.8. Up for hours, goes along predictably.
When I dial the number @ ISP that supports Higher speeds (ISP
supports 56K - V90), I connect at 44,52 higher speeds. The
text in the terminal window is munged. So it looks like a serial
speed problem? Connection is established, but login is not possible
due to scrambled Happy-face-laced I/O..
Any good ways to test connection rates?
Did hear a much different connect-squeal when I hit the higher
speed line. Guess thats V.90 and / Or KFlex screetching?
Plus that Ramping speed/frequency that is used! Sounds cool though..
JDW
> >
>
> I know it should get the same speeds with
> Linux....................perhaps I am not setting up the right stuff
> in the right place. :)
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From: "No Spam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Red Hat 5.2 and AMD
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 02:06:01 -0500
Has anyone have any problems with Red Hat 5.2 and AMD k-6 400 mhz CPU?
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Subject: Re: Problems with Supra Modem
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 01:47:18 GMT
In article <7cukgj$4ht$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Maxim Sadsag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've just bought an Diamond Supra Express Pro 56K PnP Pci Internal modem
>and I can't make it work. Maybe is it a winmodem? Or if it's not how can
>I make it work?
Yes, it's probably a winmodem. Please check the list at:
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
in the 4V4 (Diamond Multimedia) section.
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Windy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Asia Friend Finder
Date: Friday, 19 Mar 1999 18:10:51 -0600
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:21:00 -0800
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Low-cost Auto-sensing HUB?
> Can anyone recommand a low cost Auto-Sensing Hub (atleast 5 port)? I
> can't afford a switch and I've got computers I need to network (some
> with 10baset and some with 100basetx), so I thought an Auto-Sensing hub
> would do the trick.
Netgear makes a 10/100 auto hub, 4 ports, retail $85US. 8 port $130. Hubs come in
multiples of 4 ports usually.
> BTW, what's the draw back to an auto-sensing hub to a switch?
Shared bandwidth or not. Switches are significantly more expensive. You should read
the Ethernet-HOWTO
--
[Replies: make the double y a single]
"Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
WS Burroughs.
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:44:49 -0800
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hard disk tweaking advice?
# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=Maxtor 88400D8, FwRev=NAVX171F, SerialNo=L80EEP7A
Config={ Fixed }
RawCHS=16278/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=20
BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=256kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
DblWordIO=no, maxPIO=2(fast), DMA=yes, maxDMA=2(fast)
CurCHS=16278/16/63, CurSects=16408224, LBA=yes, LBAsects=16408224
tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 mword2
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4
...shows what is possible. Multicount, I/O support, using_dma, keepsettings and
readahead are usually safe and may impact performance. I've never got more than 10%
via hdparm for modern drives.
Mount has no impact. Try playing with mkfs params when filesystems are built. A
good place to start is smaller files = smaller blocksizes, larger files = larger
blocksizes [average sizes].
Put another drive on the other ide controller and try dedicating a partition on each
drive to RAID0. Striping should get minimum 2x increase.
> I've been looking for ways to boost the performance of my Western
> Digital Caviar 6.4 meg EIDE drive. Hdparm works to some extent, but
> I'm curious as to what /etc/fstab mount settings I could also try.
> "Default" mounting on my old 486 with an ISA bus isn't very speedy.
--
[Replies: make the double y a single]
"Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
WS Burroughs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Subject: Re: Problems with Supra Modem
Date: 20 Mar 1999 04:12:56 GMT
Doubt you can (ever) make that one work... It is surely a "software" modem with
only windows software available. Dig your receipt out and take it back to
exchange it for one with guts?
On 19 Mar 1999 22:53:07 GMT, Maxim Sadsag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've just bought an Diamond Supra Express Pro 56K PnP Pci Internal modem
>and I can't make it work. Maybe is it a winmodem? Or if it's not how can
>I make it work?
>Maxim
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unusual number of posts differing only in date ???
Date: 20 Mar 1999 04:04:36 GMT
No, it's not your imagination, and it caused my windows client and newsreader to
crash too. I've been archiving these groups and most of the comp.os.linux
groups for the last 4-5 months, and I even saw some of my posts that were fine
earlier this week showing up in multiples. I've got a huge cleanup here on this
windows machine, or I could just take this weekend to try to figure out how to
configure a NNTP local spooler on the Linux box?
On 19 Mar 1999 22:55:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote:
>Is there a problem in the delivery chain somewhere?
>
>I can't believe so many folks are re-posting their
>stuff...
>
>Regards,
>Bengt Richter
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie
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From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Recommend Fast Ethernet Card
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:22:56 -0500
Rod Smith wrote:
> So, the 10/100 ethernet market is currently a bit chaotic because of the
> disappearance of "genuine" DEC Tulip chipsets. There ARE entirely
> unrelated chipsets out there. Intel uses its own design in its 10/100
> boards, for instance. They've got a solid reputation, but I've never used
> one myself (these boards cost 2-3 times what a Tulip or Tulip clone board
> costs). I'm not positive, but I believe the chipset used by the D-Link
> 530TX is unrelated to the Tulip. I recall hearing that Linux support for
> it is fairly recent, but I don't recall the details.
The D-Link DFE-530TX uses the VIA Rhine II chip. It uses the via-rhine
driver. I use one and no problems so far.
> Anyhow, the bottom line is this: Unless you go with an Intel board,
> whatever you get will be a bit of a crap shoot, since manufacturers are
> still changing designs to use the clone chipsets. I recommend you buy
> something locally from a store with a good return policy. If it gives you
> any trouble, swap it for something else.
I've heard the 3Com 905B card is well supported. Expensive, but well
supported.
--
Reply to "cwv [at] idirect (dot) com"
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From: James Meacham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.help,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot
Subject: How to interface XCopilot and Pilot?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:34:52 -0500
Hi all,
I know there must be an easy answer for this question, but for the life of me I
can't figure it out.I recently got my hands on a PalmPilot for a good price.
I've assembled a number of utilities on the Linux box to go along with it. But
I still can't figure a couple of things out.
1) How do you get data from your Xcopilot back to the Pilot itself. I spent
about an hour inputting data into Xcopilot the other day, assuming that getting
that info back to my Pilot would be trivial. It's not (or at least it's not
intuitive or spelled out in the documentation).
2) Does anyone have a pre-compiled version of Kpilot they could tar up for me
and send me? For some reason, either I nor the configure compilation app in
the source version of Kpilot can find g++ on my machine. Apparently, it was
coded in C++, and my machine coughs when it starts looking for the C++
compiler. So if anyone had the precompiled version, that'd really help me out.
Peace,
James
James David Meacham, 3rd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Systems Administrator/Internet Systems Specialist
Johns Hopkins University's Center for Communications Programs
410-659-6367 phone 410-659-6266 fax
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From: "Joao P. Goncalves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Network help!
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 03:35:50 -0600
Hi
I've installed Linux, in a university network.
I can see all the network on campus, say x.x.*.*.
But if i try to connect to any server outside this i dosen't work
and i receive a message saying 'network unreachable'.
What is the problem?
And how to solve it!
thanks
JP
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From: rocky@ro
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: 20 Mar 1999 22:54:05 -0800
In article <7d1svu$1m4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Wayne says...
>
>
>Why people always care open or not open?
People reallly care about quality more than anything.
How many of us users look at the Linux source code? I bet less than 1% of
1% look at the source code. most of us want good applications to use and
we are happy.
Rocky.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Sully)
Subject: Re: Red Hat 5.2 and AMD
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 00:35:19 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 21 Mar 1999 02:06:01 -0500, "No Spam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>|Has anyone have any problems with Red Hat 5.2 and AMD k-6 400 mhz CPU?
>|
Nope. Runs great, both with the supplied 2.0.36 kernel, and now with
2.2.3.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: 21 Mar 1999 09:32:50 GMT
Comp.os.linux.setup removed from newsgroups.
On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:46:24 GMT, Schol-R-LEA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 15 Mar 1999 11:47:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph T. Adams) wrote:
>
>>BTW Unix, generically speaking, is state of the art; it has not been
>>improved on and remains not only the most stable and reliable OS for
>>PC-class machines, but the *only* stable and reliable OS for PC-class
>>machines.
>
>Yes, but what this really shows is just how awful the state of the art
>really is. Outside of a few researchers who never get much
>accomplished, OS design has stood still - gone backwards even, if you
>look at systems from the early 80s like Gennera or TRIPOS (better
>known as AmigaEXEC). What we need isn't arguing over which of the
>current systems is best - they're all terrible. What we need is a new
>OS, one that puts the past safely in the past.
What exactly *is* an OS?
IMO, it's a promise from the vendor to provide a base platform
of functionality, represented through the somewhat-misnamed
"API" (application procedure interface) calls -- it's merely a PI,
not an API, unless one wants to use a wording such as
"computer program component procedure interface" (CPCPI), which
IIRC is a modification of the old "CPCI" on some military documentation.
Or one actually has an application with an OLE/COM interface on
Windows such as Word.
The Amiga OS was a well-documented, small, elegant set of routines,
building one on top of the other (e.g., a Process was a Task was
a Node, part of a List). It was OO before OO, in a sense -- it
predated C++, anyway.
The Amiga DOS was a piece of junk, though. :-) (Note the difference;
the OS was in the Kickstart ROM, but the DOS was somewhere else.)
And prior to AmigaDOS, I'd never heard of BCPL, or their whacked
out "pointer divided by 4" scheme, which only makes sense if
one thinks about the fact that the original Amigas were 256K;
dividing a pointer by 4 thereby allows it to be shoved into a
shortword (2 bytes, maximum value 64K). But that's still weird.
I'm not sure what you mean by "better", though; that may be part
of the problem as well. Microsoft has given us a very large,
bloated, series of promises (namely, the procedural interface).
These promises are further built on by application developers
(and game developers) to allow the user to interact with his
machine and his data and other data in various novel ways.
Granted, part of Microsoft's problem is that they have to more or
less support everything back to DOS 3.3, and maybe even earlier back
(DOS hasn't changed a heck of a lot in its particulars, IMO).
But we can't trust Microsoft to always deliver on its promises,
apparently. I can't cite any specific examples, but MS in at
least one case of a procedure is returning weird, unexpected
values. Also, MS has incompatible versions of its Win32 protocol
floating around. (Part of the problem with Win32 is that it
is not elegantly separable into its constituent parts -- for
example, why does it contain MulDiv() buried in there? What is
Escape() used for?)
Unix's promises are at least bolstered by 20 years of reliable service.
But it's still a very arcane operating system in some respects;
unless one has experience with the concepts of 'mv' and 'cp' and 'sh',
one is going to have some difficulties. (Modern graphical file
browsers do help, though.) "fork()" in particular is a weird concept.
An elegant, but still weird, concept.
However, Unix did one thing right. Programs do not directly
diddle with data; they have to go through the kernel. A classic
performance/safety tradeoff in some respects, but it makes for
a more trustable operating system. (And a more object-oriented
one as well; simple programs such as 'cat' need not worry if
they are sucking data from a file, a pipe, a socket, or
an esoteric data acquisition device that returns a timestamp
and the current temperature from northern Antarctica whenever read
from. :-) )
A variant of this idea allows for the X Windows System. Basically,
a client program does not have a clue as to what it's talking to;
it could be a local server, or one in Timbuktu. For some loss
of performance, one gains great flexibility. One can even have
dummy X servers and nested X servers (which opens a window on
another X server and interacts with client programs as though *it*
were an X server, passing requests through to its window).
One can also have protocol sniffers (man-in-the-middle attack)
to either diagnose X problems (or sniff out passwords if the
sysadmin's not careful).
The ability to open on other machines exists theoretically in Windows
too (there's nothing preventing the replacement of various Win32 DLLs
with more capable DLLs that would be network-aware), and I know
of at least one company (whose name escapes me, unfortunately)
which has implemented a network-aware Windows solution.
BeOS I've heard good things about, but have yet to acquire a copy.
(Partly because I do not have a spare machine and/or disk upon which
to install it.) My understanding is that this is a C++ operating system
with high promise.
Java looks promising, but I'm not sure what its capabilities
are yet, either. This is an OO, machine-independent environment.
Write Once, Run Anywhere -- if everyone hews to the implementation
specs, anyway (guess who broke ranks? Microsoft, again...though we'll
see what HP does with its Java implementation). So far, a lot of webpages
use applets written in Java, but it's not clear -- at least to me -- that
the full power of Java (it supports elegant models for threading and for
sockets, for example) has been tapped yet -- and its widget model
needs work (why else would they release Swing?).
>
>>The fact that its roots go back almost as far as DOS, and
>
>Much farther than DOS, actually. Back to 1968, to be specific.
I would have thought it was 1970...what did they use for the Epoch
prior to 1970? :-)
>
>>that it relies on a foundation of proven and mature computer science
>
>Ludicrous. It relies on a mountain of grad student hacks. The fact
>that it is still is superior to the other mainstream alternatives
>doesn't change that fact.
One does wonder, however, why the "grad student hacks" appear to
give us an operating system with much higher reliability than
the presumably professionally-by-the-book-developed Windows 95,
or even Windows NT.
Perhaps it is because the realization that anyone can hack code
into the OS forces people to think about how the OS should be
made less fragile. I'm not 100% sure of this, though.
Of course, there's also the Unix philosophy: Lego(tm) blocks
versus monoliths. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. :-)
>
>--
>
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>First Speaker, Last Eristic Church of Finagle and Holy Bisexuality
>i with the soul of a hamlet ** Ye shall know the Truth, and
>doomed always to wallow in farce ** The Truth shall drive you mad.
There's a thought. :-)
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