Linux-Hardware Digest #923, Volume #9 Sat, 3 Apr 99 17:13:26 EST
Contents:
ncr53c8xx problems with DAT drive (John May)
Re: Problem with installing on a SCSI machine (Mike Arnautov)
Re: X sees 1mb VRAM, my 6326 has 8mb ("Erik Akkermans")
Re: Zip drive (david mac)
Lost SoundBlaster IDE (Keith Kee)
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (James Goldman)
$6 for $42000 in four weeks ("Goodwomen")
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Alexander Viro)
Asus 3400TV ("Ricky")
Re: [Help] VIA-503+ MB & AMD k6-2 350 Install (Bob Martin)
TNT 2 , Voodoo 3 ("Elliott Paiken")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John May)
Subject: ncr53c8xx problems with DAT drive
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 21:00:30 GMT
Neither the ncr53c8xx or the new sym53c8xx driver can detect a Wangdat
3200 drive when used with my ASUS '875 based SCSI card.
Here is an extract from the boot.msg (tape on ID3 resulting
in the highlighted `request sense failed' message) :-
<6>ncr53c8xx: at PCI bus 0, device 11, function 0
<4>ncr53c8xx: setting PCI_COMMAND_PARITY...(fix-up)
<6>ncr53c8xx: 53c875 detected with Symbios NVRAM
<6>ncr53c875-0: rev=0x03, base=0xe1100000, io_port=0x6200, irq=9
<6>ncr53c875-0: Symbios format NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, Parity Checking
<6>ncr53c875-0: on-chip RAM at 0xe1101000
<6>ncr53c875-0: restart (scsi reset).
<4>ncr53c875-0: Downloading SCSI SCRIPTS.
<4>scsi0 : sym53c8xx/version 1.0
<4>scsi : 1 host.
<4> Vendor: SEAGATE Model: ST34555N Rev: 0930
<4> Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
<4>Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
**********************
<4>scsi0 : channel 0 target 3 lun 0 request sense failed, performing
reset.
**********************
<4>SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
<4>ncr53c8xx_reset: pid=4 reset_flags=1 serial_number=0
serial_number_at_timeout=0
<6>ncr53c875-0: restart (scsi reset).
<4>ncr53c875-0: Downloading SCSI SCRIPTS.
<4> Vendor: iomega Model: jaz 1GB Rev: J.83
<4> Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
<4>Detected scsi removable disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0
<6>ncr53c875-0-<4,0>: tagged command queue depth set to 8
<4>scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total.
Does anyone have a 3200 running off an '875 or know what is causing
the above problem?
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From: Mike Arnautov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problem with installing on a SCSI machine
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:26:33 +0100
Barry,
>Have your tried 0x340,11,0 as the options. I assume you have one scsi
>controller.
Yes, one SCSI controller.
Yes, I have now tried giving LUN as 0, 4 (the actual LUN of my CDROM on
the SCSI chain) and 7 (the LUN of the controller). The machine hangs in
all cases.
--
Mike Arnautov
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Replace dashes with dots and remove the antispam component.
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From: "Erik Akkermans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: X sees 1mb VRAM, my 6326 has 8mb
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:33:47 +0200
Here's something that might just help: look in the Device-section in the
/etc/X11/XF86config file , where the configuration of your SiS6326 videocard
is located. There's is a line included 'VideoRam'. If the amount of videoram
in that line is 1024 then you should change it into 8192 and everything will
hopefully be allright. If the amount is already 8192 then I don't know what
the problem is.
I hope this is useful to you,
Erik Akkermans
DeadMonkey heeft geschreven in bericht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am using XFree86 and I have set up my SiS 6326 on my Slackware box.
>It works fine at 8bpp 1024x768, but it will only do up to 16bpp 800x600
>or 24bpp 640x480. I read the output from the X server and it
>initializes my chip as having 1024KB ram, where I have 8192KB. Anyone
>have any problems with this? I am using the SVGA standard server. Is
>there a commercial or GPL X server that better supports my SiS 6326?
>Anyone else have this problem?
>
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From: david mac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zip drive
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:11:38 -0600
John Thompson wrote:
>
> david mac wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to view the contents of a zip drive created under
> > dos/win? My old disks appear to be blank?
>
> How are you mounting the disks? You should use something
> like "mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip"
>
> Device and mount point should reflect whatever is
> appropriate for your hardware and system configuration. The
> partition 4 designation is required for most FAT formatted
> ZIP disks, though. Maybe that's where your problem lies?
>
> --
>
> -John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip is exactly what I am doing.
I initially used /dev/sda1 then after reboot I use /dev/sda4.
I'm baffled.
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From: Keith Kee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lost SoundBlaster IDE
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 14:26:31 -0600
Hi,
I'm running RedHat Linux 5.2 upgraded to kernel 2.2.5
I recently replaced my motherboard and now my TR-4 tape drive which is
connected to the soundblaster ide connector has disappeared. I know
it's probably a BIOS setting, I just don't know which one. I've tried a
lot of different configurations with no luck. The new motherboard is a
Tyan Tsunami S1830 AT. The output in /var/log/messages seems to
indicate that the port is busy and the probe is being skipped.
The sound card itself is being setup with isapnp on bootup and is
functioning ok.
The resources for the SB ide port are
IRQ: 10
IO1: 0168-016F
IO2: 036E-036F
I've looked in /proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports and these resources
are not being used by anything else.
Here is the bootup output from /var/log/messages:
Apr 3 13:47:55 kee001 syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
Apr 3 13:47:55 kee001 kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg
started.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Loaded 7468 symbols from
/usr/src/linux/System.map.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.2.5.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: No module symbols loaded.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Linux version 2.2.5 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(gcc version 2.7.2.3) #1 Fri Apr 2 09:59:53 CST 1999
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Detected 300684866 Hz processor.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 299.83 BogoMIPS
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Memory: 127984k/131072k available (996k
kernel code, 412k reserved, 1644k data, 36k init)
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: CPU: Intel Pentium II (Deschutes)
stepping 02
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU
using exception 16 error reporting.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at
0xfdb81
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: PCI: Using configuration type 1
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: PCI: Enabling I/O for device 00:3a
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Based upon Swansea University Computer
Society NET3.039
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux
NET4.0.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Starting kswapd v 1.5
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2,EPP]
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial
options enabled
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: ttyS02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: lp0: using parport0 (polling).
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: <Sound Blaster 16 (4.13)> at 0x220 irq 5
dma 1,5
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: <Sound Blaster 16> at 0x330 irq 5 dma 0
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: <Yamaha OPL3> at 0x388
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: AWE32: not detected
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev
39
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: PIIX4: not 100ative mode: will probe irqs
later
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS
settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS
settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: hda: WDC AC38400L, ATA DISK drive
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: hdb: WDC AC32500H, ATA DISK drive
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: hdc: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 8100,
ATAPI CDROM drive
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: ide2: ports already in use, skipping
probe
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: hda: WDC AC38400L, 8063MB w/256kB Cache,
CHS=1027/255/63, UDMA
Apr 3 13:47:57 kee001 gated[244]: Start gated[244] version 3-5-10 built
Fri Sep 4 02:34:03 EDT 1998
Apr 3 13:47:58 kee001 gated[244]: inet_init: *WARNING* IP forwarding
disabled!
Apr 3 13:47:58 kee001 gated[244]: rt_add: host bits not zero
192.168/0.0.0.0 gw 192.168.0.1 Kernel
Apr 3 13:47:58 kee001 gated[244]: KRT READ REMNANT 192.168 mask
0.0.0.0 router 192.168.0.1 flags <>0: queueing delete for
rt_add() failure
Apr 3 13:47:58 kee001 gated[244]: rt_add: host bits not zero
192.168/0.0.0.0 gw 192.168.0.1 Kernel
Apr 3 13:47:58 kee001 gated[244]: KRT READ REMNANT 192.168 mask
0.0.0.0 router 192.168.0.1 flags <>0: queueing delete for
rt_add() failure
Apr 3 13:47:58 kee001 gated[244]: rt_add: interface not found for
0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 gw 192.168.0.254 Kernel
Apr 3 13:47:58 kee001 gated[244]: KRT READ REMNANT 0.0.0.0 mask
0.0.0.0 router 192.168.0.254 flags <>0: queueing delete for
rt_add() failure
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: hdb: Disabling (U)DMA for WDC AC32500H
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: hdb: DMA disabled
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: hdb: WDC AC32500H, 2441MB w/128kB Cache,
CHS=620/128/63
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM DVD-RAM CD-R/RW
drive, 1024kB Cache
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.54
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: PPP: version 2.3.3 (demand dialling)
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: TCP compression code copyright 1989
Regents of the University of California
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: PPP line discipline registered.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: 3c59x.c:v0.99H 11/17/98 Donald Becker
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: eth0: 3Com 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at
0xef00, 00:60:97:c3:c6:93, IRQ 9
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: 8K word-wide RAM 3:5 Rx:Tx split,
autoselect/MII interface.
Apr 3 13:47:58 kee001 gated[244]: KRT SEND DELETE 192.168 mask
0.0.0.0 router 192.168.0.1 flags <GW>2: Invalid argument
Apr 3 13:47:58 kee001 gated[244]: KRT SEND DELETE 192.168 mask
0.0.0.0 router 192.168.0.1 flags <GW>2: Invalid argument
Apr 3 13:47:58 kee001 gated[244]: Commence routing updates
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: MII transceiver found at address 24,
status 786f.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Enabling bus-master transmits and
whole-frame receives.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Partition check:
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 >
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 hdb4
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
readonly.
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 36k freed
Apr 3 13:47:56 kee001 kernel: Adding Swap: 112892k swap-space (priority
-1)
Apr 3 13:47:59 kee001 inetd[285]: gds_db/tcp: unknown service
Apr 3 13:48:00 kee001 named[295]: starting. named 8.1.2 Thu Sep 24
02:47:08 EDT 1998
^[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/bs/BUILD/src/bin/named
Apr 3 13:48:00 kee001 named[295]: cache zone "" (IN) loaded (serial 0)
Apr 3 13:48:00 kee001 named[295]: master zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa"
(IN) loaded (serial 1997022700)
Apr 3 13:48:00 kee001 named[295]: listening on [127.0.0.1].53 (lo)
Apr 3 13:48:00 kee001 named[295]: listening on [192.168.0.1].53 (eth0)
Apr 3 13:48:00 kee001 named[295]: Forwarding source address is
[0.0.0.0].1025
Apr 3 13:48:00 kee001 named[296]: Ready to answer queries.
Apr 3 13:48:00 kee001 named[296]: sysquery: sendto([198.41.0.4].53):
Network is unreachable
Apr 3 13:48:08 kee001 PAM_pwdb[412]: (su) session opened for user
sybase by (uid=500)
Apr 3 13:48:09 kee001 PAM_pwdb[412]: (su) session closed for user
sybase
Apr 3 13:48:38 kee001 kernel: ttsession forgot to set AF_INET in udp
sendmsg. Fix it!
Thanks for any help you can give!!
Keith
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From: James Goldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 14:16:34 -0700
Alexander Viro wrote:
>
<snip story of foo, bar and of course, baz>
> he's OK with <bar>, can't stand anything else and is on holy crusade
> against authors of <bar>.
True. That's rather annoying isn't it? But then again, I frequently go
off on little crusades about my particular foobar: Microsoft. I said I
don't care anymore, but it's not really true. The kind of hatred any
truly computer-literate person develops for M$ never quite dies. So I
guess I'm guilty, too.
<snip description of lusers>
OK, with this description I can't possibly argue. People like you
described shouldn't be allowed to own computers. They are powerful and
potentially dangerous tools (I mean the computers - although I concede
that the lusers are tools, too).
So everyone should ask themselves: "Do I really know what I'm doing?"
Actually, scratch that. An luser would always answer "yes" even though
the answer is definitely "no". I must have met a few thousand people
like this - and that's just in college. Here I have to note that most of
said people thought Microsoft was wonderful.
> >big ol' bandwagon again. Linux has become a buzzword.
> Yes. And there is a type that I would call professional advocates.
> Completely dishonest, absolutely ignorant, want to fight for
> something, no matter what. Most vocal type. BTW, many of them are
> ex-Mac/ex-Amiga/ex-OS/2 advocates - check DejaNews and you'll see.
Hmm.. care to elaborate on this, too? Do you mean people screaming about
how wonderful Linux is/putting down everyone who doesn't use
it/otherwise making asses of themselves/otherwise making asses of the
rest of the Linux community? Yes, then I agree. I'll rail agaist M$ as
much as the next guy (and probably more), but the fact is that the rest
of the world needs enlightenment about the true nature of M$. What they
don't need is to be put down. God knows we get enough of that sort of
thing as it is.
> fact that people in <foo> speak on a different language. "What? They
Here's another thing that's going to give me away, but where does this
"foo" come from? I see it all over the place.
James
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From: "Goodwomen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: $6 for $42000 in four weeks
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:24:01 +0400
THIS REALLY CAN MAKE YOU EASY MONEY!! IT WORKS!!! BUT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW IT
TO A LETTER FOR IT TO WORK!!!!
A little while back, I was browsing through newsgroups, just like you are
now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make
thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00!
So I thought," Yeah, right, this must be a scam", but like most of us, I was
curious, so I kept reading.
Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and address
stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the
bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups.
(There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and
talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured what
have I got to lose except 6 stamps and $6.00, right? Like most of us I was a
little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So
I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they
confirmed that it is indeed legal! Then I invested the measly $6.00. Well
GUESS WHAT!!... within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was
shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept coming in. In
my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made
a total of over $1,000.00! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's
still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just
over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in rapidly. It's certainly worth
$6.00, and 6 stamps, I have spent more than that on the lottery!!
Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works....also,
make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the
information off of it as you need it. STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper
and write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR
MAILING LIST." Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6
pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent
thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them.
You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating
the above phrase, your name and address, and a $1.00 bill. What you are
doing is creating a service by this. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! Mail the 6
envelopes to the following addresses:
#1) Grant
P.O.Box 703394
New Smyrna Beach, FL 32170 USA
#2) MIKE ELEFANT
502 N. FRANCES ST. 510E
MADISON WI 53703 USA
#3) Gerry
P.O. Box 854
Pomona, NJ 08240 USA
#4) Hope
112 E. Madison St.
Paulsboro, NJ 08066 USA
#5)Quishia
P.O. Box 174
Clarksboro, NJ 08020-0174 USA
#6) Alex
P.O. Box 1
Russia, Moscow 117630
STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other
names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on
the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article
as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least
200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 24,000 groups) All you need is
200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! ---
DIRECTIONS-----HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------ Step 1) You do not need
to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your cursor
at the beginning of this letter and drag your cursor to the bottom of this
document, and select 'copy' from the edit menu. This will copy the entire
letter into the computers memory. Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and
place your cursor at the top of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select
'paste'. This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can
add your name to the list. Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt
file. If you want to do your postings in different sittings, you'll always
have this file to go back to. Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and
try searching for various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat
sites, discussions.) Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this
article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and
selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the
header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a
particular group, click the post message button. You're done with your first
one!
Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different
newsgroupes and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about
30 seconds for each newsgroup!
**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!!
BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That's it! You will begin reciving
money from around the world within days! You may eventually wany to rent a
P.O.Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to
stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will
deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.**
Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very
low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now,
each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings,
each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original
5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts
with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional
$125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my
name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional
$626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a
MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies,
that just made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this
message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200
newsgroups react I will receive $15,625,00! With a original investment of
only $6.00! AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take
the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on
the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The
thing to remember is, do you realize that thousands of people all over the
world are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST
LIKE YOU are now!! So can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I
think so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one
sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when
there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the
internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates
are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those
joining the actual internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this
will work.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: 3 Apr 1999 14:44:42 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
James Goldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Alexander Viro wrote:
>> IMHO it's RH *trouble*. Bad luck, if you prefer such term. Discussing
>> what *might* happen is pretty much pointless - RH made a kind of press
>> that attracted an odd crowd of gimme-Windows-not-from-Evil-Empire
>> lusers.
>
>So what's wrong with that? Getting away from Bills Happy Point'n'Drool
>Playgroud is exactly what got me started on Linux. Now that I've got it
>all set up and I have a clue how to use it, I actually have come to love
>it for its features and could no longer care less about Microshaft. Or
>whether anybody else switches, for that matter.
Well, let me put it that way: it's one thing if <foo> is not satisfied
with the way <bar> works and wants to look what else is out there. Pretty
reasonable. It's a different thing if <foo> doesn't like an attitude of
<bar>'s authors and wants to find somebody else who would give a clone
of <bar> but wouldn't be such an asshole. May be reasonable too (ahem...
there is one particular MTA...). And it's *totally* different thing if <foo>
tries to con/force/whine everybody into turning <baz> into <bar> clone, since
he's OK with <bar>, can't stand anything else and is on holy crusade against
authors of <bar>.
>> It's about luserness. Quite a different thing. RH got a lot of newbies
>> (probably more than other distributions, but I suspect that nobody has
>> numbers) *plus* almost all lusers. The thing being, lusers are much
>> more vocal...
>
>True, but how do you distinguish the two? For me, a Linux luser is one
>who expects Linux to be exactly like windows and gets really annoyed
Oh, that's just one kind. Luser... well, it's a mental disorder.
Pathological fear of learning, extremely short attention span when it
comes to anything even remotely computer-related; always blaming somebody
else ("you've changed something and it's broken now"); belief that computers
are black magic things; suspension of common sense ("It doesn't print! Ummm?
What does it say? Ehhh... It says "out of paper"... What? Insert paper? Why is
it needed?!?"); belief that somebody can fix the problem by pure voodoo with
*no* specific information about the problem (they *always* start from "it is
broken" or something equally meaningless, e.g. "the net is sloooow" or, better
yet, "Internet is down" (sure... WWIII began, didn't ya know?)); etc.
They are sick. And I mean medical sense of the word. It's very common
disease. Many things are responsible for spreading this disease, MS not the
last of those things. Add PC Sick, National Shitquirer and other magazines of
the same level. Add cyberpunk authors. Add ST (they did helluva lot wrt.
suspension of common sense when it comes to any technology). Add MS brethren
a-la Apple (they've started even before MS). Add the fact that luserness is
contagious (there is some kind of immune system, but one has to develop it
in the first hand)...
>when it isn't. But who's fault is it that the Linux world is rapidly
>filling up with this ilk? I'll tell you who: Microsoft and general
>ignorance.
See above.
>People have been stuck with DOS/Win31/95/98/NT/CE/2000 for so long they
>can't imagine anything else. That's M$'s influence. And now there's this
>big ol' bandwagon again. Linux has become a buzzword.
Yes. And there is a type that I would call professional advocates.
Completely dishonest, absolutely ignorant, want to fight for something, no
matter what. Most vocal type. BTW, many of them are ex-Mac/ex-Amiga/ex-OS/2
advocates - check DejaNews and you'll see.
>I consider this rather bizarre, in a way. I mean, if you've been
>speaking only English all your life and you decide to learn Norwegian or
>something, you'd be an idiot to expect it to be the same, wouldn't you?
>Yet so many people think in just that way about operating systems.
>That's the ignorance part.
<chuckle> See stories about US tourists *completely* amazed by the
fact that people in <foo> speak on a different language. "What? They don't
speak English? Boy, whadda bunch of retards!". Especially funny when <foo>
being UK...
>For me, switching to Linux was exactly what I expected. I mean, I *knew*
>it would be different in the same way learning DOS was a pain when my
>experience up to that time was Commodore64 (don't laugh - I loved that
>machine!). So I knew I'd have to read a lot to get good.
Hear, hear...
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: "Ricky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Asus 3400TV
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:13:53 +0200
Anyone can tell me how can I install Redhat 5.2 with Asus 3400Tv, please?
Thanks in advance
Ricky
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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:45:18 -0600
From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Help] VIA-503+ MB & AMD k6-2 350 Install
Be sure to double check the cabling for the drives, that can cause
problems, some are keyed and some are not. make sure you the
clock/frequency setting correct. The 503 can clock the cpu at 100mhz and
the memory 66mhz so check that. Also the mid range AMDs ( 300, 350 )
come in two flavors 66 and 100mhz version, make sure your settings are
correct for the cpu you have.
Todd Makinster wrote:
>
> Hello & Help.
>
> I recently decided to build my very own box. I have
> just gotten out of the gates & have already hit
> a brick wall. I have gone through the MoBo manual
> several times checking & rechecking my setup.
>
> Current Setup:
> MoBo: VIA 503+
> CPU: AMD K6-2 350
> RAM: 64M FPM @66<---?
> HD: 2 WesternDigital Caviars EIDE
> CD: ATAPI Generic <--- I believe, off my old box which LInux has no
> probs
> FLP: Generic Floppy
> VID: Cirrus Logid GD5404 or something or another, cheapo to start...
>
> So I set all of the jumpers on the board to run at 66 as
> opposed to 100, at least I think I did. When I power on I
> get absolutely nothing on the monitor, CD-ROM spins, the HDs
> spin (but no lights indicating so), the Floppy does nothing,
> all fans power up & spin and I get a continual beeping. I
> have a sneaking suspicion it maybe my RAM _but_ can anyone
> shed some real light on what I am doing wrong and how to
> correct my problem(s). This is my first attempt at putting
> together a machine, so please, be nice.
>
> If more detailed info is needed, feel free to e-mail me
> and/or reply to the group. I really would like to get my
> "new" computer runnin'
>
> Thanks in advance
> Mak
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From: "Elliott Paiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TNT 2 , Voodoo 3
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:49:59 -0400
Does anyone know yet if these chip sets will be compatible with Linux,
X-windows?
If you have any information about this let me know please.
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