Linux-Hardware Digest #270, Volume #11 Thu, 16 Sep 99 19:13:28 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can a Linux Expert Answer This?? (Michael Meissner)
Question: Sony ITA Notebook and Linux!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (Ilya)
Re: X: monitor resolution settings (Adrian Hands)
Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? ("Matt O'Toole")
Linux on AMD K6/Linux on Intel Cayman and Celeron CPU. (Joris Esch)
Re: CS4232 kernel msg (Aris Cruz)
Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (Ilya)
modem setup problems ("Jon Waitneight")
Re: Recommendations on a Sound Card (Stewart Hector)
Dual 3com PCMCIA eth cards? (Dominic Maraglia)
Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (Thomas Muders)
Re: HP 9000/720 ; $150 ("Igor!")
Which modem to get (Robin Adams)
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Subject: Re: Can a Linux Expert Answer This??
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 16 Sep 1999 13:00:04 -0400
Lee Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you've got a SCSI system then things are a little different. On my system
> which has an adaptec 3940 on board, the cdom is /dev/scd0, but that doesn't
> mean it will automatically be that on yours. I don't have enough experience
> with SCSI under linux to know exactly how it decides that my cdrom is scd0
> and not say scd5. My best advice in this case is to make sure you have the
> SCSI card working under linux then try each scd entry in turn, starting with
> scd0.
If you do not have the devfs patches installed, scsi devices are named like:
/dev/sda -- First hard disk (as a whole disk)
/dev/sda1 -- First partition of hard disk #1
/dev/sdb -- Second hard disk (as a whole disk)
/dev/sdb5 -- Fifth partition of hard disk #2
/dev/st0 -- First tape drive, rewind upon close
/dev/nst1 -- Second tape drive, do not rewind upon close
/dev/scd0 -- First cdrom
/dev/scd1 -- Second cdrom
/dev/sr2 -- Third cdrom using the old name scheme
Note you can also refer to a scsi device using the generic name (typically used
for scanners and CD-R/CD-RW drives when writing a CD). In this case the device
is /dev/sga for the first device, /dev/sgb for the second, etc.
Scsi devices are scanned by controller, scsi id, lun in order.
For example on my system, I have 3 scsi controllers (actually 2 phsyical ones,
since the onboard Adaptec controller is a dual controller that acts like two
real controllers but only consumes one IRQ slot). The first logical controller
has 2 disks on it, the second logical controller has 3 disks on it, and the
second physical controller (third logical controller) has a tape drive, CD-R,
and a scanner on it. Thus:
Device name Generic
----------- -------
controller 0, id 0, lun 0, Hard drive /dev/sda /dev/sga
controller 0, id 1, lun 0, Hard drive /dev/sdb /dev/sgb
controller 1, id 0, lun 0, Hard drive /dev/sdc /dev/sgc
controller 1, id 1, lun 0, Hard drive /dev/sdd /dev/sgd
controller 1, id 6, lun 0, Hard drive /dev/sde /dev/sge
controller 2, id 2, lun 0, CD-R /dev/scd0 /dev/sgf
controller 2, id 3, lun 0, Tape drive /dev/st0 /dev/sgg
controller 2, id 4, lun 0, Scanner /dev/sgh
If I change the scanner's id to 0, it will change the generic devices of the
CD-R and Tape Drive, but not the device names.
--
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 978-486-9304 fax: 978-692-4482
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Question: Sony ITA Notebook and Linux!!!
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:20:55 GMT
Hello,
I am interested in buying the Sony ITA notebook.
It is model # PCG505TR. Are there any problems
installing Linux (in its various shrink
wrapped forms, Caldera, RedHat, OpenLinux, etc.)
on this notebook???
Thank you,
Bill Halchin
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:47:42 GMT
Amazing thread.
I used to have mwm, twm and fvwm on a DECstation 5000/20 with 8 MB of RAM, 300
MB hard drive and they run just fine. I got it in late '92 and it broke down
early this year, since it ran fine all that time, I had no real reason to
upgrade. fvwm kicks @ss and once you get used to it, it is very good. All
that talk about 19264 MB needed to run Gnome, KDE, etc....
When my DEC broke down, I thought long and hard what to upgrade to - HP-UX B
class, Sun Ultra machine or Linux. I choose Linux. But of course. It is great
in terms of bang per buck and much more. I upgraded to a dual processor
machine with every bell and whistle and I *still* run fvwm and it still kicks
@ss.
I miss my DEC though. I suppose it is one of those stupid attachments people
have to their "firsts" - cars, girlfriends, computers, no matter how bad they
are (and they are usually pretty bad). Maybe some day I will get another DEC
with that cool monochrome monitor.
The *worst* window manager I used was CDE that comes as default on HP-UX and
Sun machines. CDE makes me want to say bad words.
Ilya
In comp.os.linux.misc Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>David,
>>
>>You might want to look into more ram. Linux needs at least 32mb to run
>>at a reasonable speed - 64mb would make a big difference.
> There are trade-offs here...
> - Linux is small (8 Mb should be more than enough for a non-X system)
> - X is big (I've heard recommendations for a minimum of 16Mb for X usage under
> Linux)
> - Some Window Managers are big (KDE/Enlightnment/Gnome/etc. require more Mb for
> their features). The fewer features, the smaller the footprint
> - Swap space also counts to performance
> - As does CPU type and speed
> Your decision: either spend money to upgrade your ram, or
> spend money to upgrade your hard disk (add swapspace), or
> spend money to upgrade your CPU, or
> acquire a smaller, lighter X Window Manager for free
> I guess it depends on what features you'd miss from the heavyweight WMs vs how
> much money you have to spend. I can't advise on hardware upgrades, but I can
> tell you that there are several light-weight (low feature) X window managers
> available: take a look at wmx or ude (available through freshmeat and
> linuxberg). I use wmx on my 486/80 (16Mb memory), and wmx and ude and fvwm95 on
> my 6x86/133 (64Mb memory).
>>
>>David Rabanus wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I wonder which window manager might be the fastest on a Compaq Laptop
>>> (Presario 1215, 24MB RAM, 180 MHz). I have installed RedHat 6.0 (Kernel
>>> 2.2.5-15smp) and it automatically installed the window manager
>>> "enlightenment" and "gnome" (although I don't understand what tasks each of
>>> those exactly fulfill). Anyway: I turns out that this system is VERY slow.
>>> Even slower than Windows 95. But that - of course - wasn't the reason to
>>> switch over to linux. When I try to change the window manager in the "GNOME
>>> Control Center" it doesn't seem to remember that when I "startx" the next
>>> time. But it doesn't offer me the option to save that new configuration.
>>>
>>> Now: Probably that also depends on the distribution I have.
>>> What is the recommendation for the slimmest/fastest linux
>>> version/distribution/window manager that should be used?
>>> Which window manager does NOT use a thousand bitmaps to display its window
>>> corners and radio buttons and so on?
>>>
>>> In my experience the trend goes to still fancier desktops with a thousand
>>> different gimmicks and gizmos constantly sucking memory and cpu time and
>>> that sucks (literally :-). I just want to know how to SWITCH them off. I
>>> hope that this doesn't impair the good reputation of linux being an
>>> efficient system.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance - Dave.
> Lew Pitcher
> System Consultant
> Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employers')
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: X: monitor resolution settings
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:58:04 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ilya wrote:
(snip)
> > Try CTRL ALT <keypad +> and <keypad ->
> > They're used to switch resolutions...
>
> That does not work in Rehat 6.0 (Gnome).
Works on mine.
If it doesn't work on yours check your X server startup messages, it
probably rejected all but one mode.
Also, make sure you do NOT have "DontZoom" in your XF86Config.
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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: 16 Sep 1999 14:32:55 PDT
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> LOL. I think, you are kidding. KDE ist the last thing I would install on
> a system with less than 64meg RAM. The most of Qt-stuff and KDE seem to
> need more and more memory in the newer versions.
It runs fine on my machine, with 48MB.
Matt O.
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From: Joris Esch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on AMD K6/Linux on Intel Cayman and Celeron CPU.
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:08:29 +0200
Hello,
Since I'm going to build my own dirty cheap Linux system myself:
Can you run Linux on an AMD K6-2 or K6-3 with an Aopen (or Abit,i
can't remember which) mainboard?
Can you run Linux on an Intel Cayman mainboard with an Intel Celeron
as CPU?
Can you get the soundcard on a Cayman to work. Does the Cayman "video
card" works with XFree86?
Please also respond by email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please do not advice me to buy an Pentium III 600 unless you pay
yourself. I'm just interested whether it works, or not.
Thanks in advance.
Joris Esch
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From: Aris Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CS4232 kernel msg
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:31:21 GMT
Thanks all, I am all set, I just added synthirq=-1 and synthio=-1 and then
I was ok.
Aris Cruz wrote:
> To answer your question, it was compiled as a module.
> Here is also the output from /dev/sndstat.
>
> Thanks
>
> OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
> Load type: Driver loaded as a module
> Kernel: Linux escher 2.2.10 #2 Tue Jul 20 16:47:43 MEST 1999 i686
> Config options: 0
>
> Installed drivers:
>
> Card config:
>
> Audio devices:
> 0: Crystal audio controller (CS4236) (DUPLEX)
>
> Synth devices:
> 0: Yamaha OPL3
>
> Midi devices:
> 0: MPU-401 (UART) MIDI
>
> Timers:
> 0: System clock
> 1: Crystal audio controller (CS4236)
>
> Mixers:
> 0: Crystal audio controller (CS4236)
> A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
> >
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> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Aris Cruz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > Greetings everyone,
> > >
> > > I am running into a problem with the onboard CS4232 sound card on the
> Dell
> > > GX1. I use S.u.S.E 6.2 and KDE. I see the problem occur after using
> xmms
> > > for an extended time. I get this msg when I do a dmesg
> > >
> > > Sound error: Couldn't allocate DMA buffer
> > >
> > > If anything has an idea, please let me know.
> >
> > How do you have the support for the card compiled? as a module?
> > Into the kernel? I bet I know what it is, but all depends on how you
> > have it compiled. Also, the output of 'cat /dev/sndstat' would be very
> > handy.
> >
> > BL.
> > - --
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:36:26 GMT
I used fvwm for 6 years with success. It is small, fast, easy to configure,
and even if they come out with better, more sophisticated managers, I still
use fvwm.
All you have to do is put fvwm in your .xsession file.
But I don't think your window manager is your problem.
In comp.os.linux.misc David Rabanus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I wonder which window manager might be the fastest on a Compaq Laptop
> (Presario 1215, 24MB RAM, 180 MHz). I have installed RedHat 6.0 (Kernel
> 2.2.5-15smp) and it automatically installed the window manager
> "enlightenment" and "gnome" (although I don't understand what tasks each of
> those exactly fulfill). Anyway: I turns out that this system is VERY slow.
> Even slower than Windows 95. But that - of course - wasn't the reason to
> switch over to linux. When I try to change the window manager in the "GNOME
> Control Center" it doesn't seem to remember that when I "startx" the next
> time. But it doesn't offer me the option to save that new configuration.
> Now: Probably that also depends on the distribution I have.
> What is the recommendation for the slimmest/fastest linux
> version/distribution/window manager that should be used?
> Which window manager does NOT use a thousand bitmaps to display its window
> corners and radio buttons and so on?
> In my experience the trend goes to still fancier desktops with a thousand
> different gimmicks and gizmos constantly sucking memory and cpu time and
> that sucks (literally :-). I just want to know how to SWITCH them off. I
> hope that this doesn't impair the good reputation of linux being an
> efficient system.
> Thanks in advance - Dave.
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From: "Jon Waitneight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: modem setup problems
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:13:06 -0400
I have an aptiva that has two isa cards and no pci cards. I want to setup
the two isa cards in linux but I'm having trouble. neither of the cards
have any jumpers, so I'm trying to use isapnp to configure those cards.
It's very hard for me to unnderstand, so I tried using "pnpdump" which
worked, but do I send that output to the file isapnp.conf and then comment
the stuff out, or what? I guess my question to anyone that may know is what
do I do with the output on my terminal screen to get these cards working
right?
I'm really trying to get my pnp isa modem to work!! It's not so easy to
do. It's a usr sportster 33.6 fax/voice. My bios sets the first 2 com
ports, so I want to assign ttys02 to the modem. Red Hat lists the ports on
startup i.e.
ttys00 3f8 irq4 is 16550a
ttys01 2f8 irq3 is 16550a
ttys02 3e8 irq4 is 16550a
But what's the best way to get my devices configured correctly?
Help me... you're my only hope.
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From: Stewart Hector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommendations on a Sound Card
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:48:07 +0000
Soundblaster 64.
I used tohave SB64 (isa version) and SBLive plugged in at the same
time with no problems.
Unfortunately, if you install the Live! driver, you can't use any
other soundcards. So, you'll have to choose between Live! or your
second soundcard in Linux :-(
"Omid Torkian, Kaveh Atyabi, Eli Smushkovich" wrote:
>
> Ok, In the Dos/Win world I am pretty informed on Soundcards. But My
> Sound Bastard Live is not supported very well In Linux so I want to add
> a 2nd card that IS supported well. My wishlist ?
>
> -Cheap.
> -Easy to configure.
> -Easy to find (hopefull at Fry's or the Like)
> - Good S/N ratio for playing MP3 files (my main use)
> - If it has hardware wavetable then all the better. I have a midi
> keyboard and would love to be able to sequence in Linux if there are any
> decent sequencers available.
> - Joystick support.
>
> Any info and I would be -like- very greatfull.
>
> DP !
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From: Dominic Maraglia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Dual 3com PCMCIA eth cards?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:27:40 -0700
Hello,
I am thinking about turning my old laptop (p166, 80mb RAM) in a linux
firewall for my ADSL connection.
My main question: will two 3com 3C589D PCMCIA ethenet cards work well?
I have not idea of the through put of these cards, but I do not want
them slow down my net connection.
Any other worries when running Linux on a laptop? Any particular
distribution which works best?
Thanks,
Dominic
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Muders)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: 16 Sep 1999 22:30:09 GMT
In article <7rrnm7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matt O'Toole wrote:
>
>Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> LOL. I think, you are kidding. KDE ist the last thing I would install on
>> a system with less than 64meg RAM. The most of Qt-stuff and KDE seem to
>> need more and more memory in the newer versions.
>
>It runs fine on my machine, with 48MB.
>
Compared to Gnome, KDE is incredibly slow. I don't know why. Good examples:
check out how long kfm needs to display a directory with many files
and how long needs gmc. The difference is incredible!!
Another example is the dialog where you can choose the icon for
a program. This also in Gnome is way faster then in KDE.
I really wonder what those KDE guys are doing there. I even have the
impression that KDE gets slower and slower with each release...
Regards
Thomas
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From: "Igor!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hpux,misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: HP 9000/720 ; $150
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:30:12 +0200
Hi
I`d buy the programm CAD400 and want to buy one workstation HP9000-715.
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robin Adams)
Subject: Which modem to get
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:14:59 GMT
I've discovered my modem is a winmodem, so I've decided to buy a new
one that will work under Linux. Can anyone recommend one I should
get?
I'm running Red Hat Linux 6.0 on a Pentium II 450. Money shouldn't be
too much of a problem, but I am a student, so the cheaper the better.
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