Linux-Hardware Digest #895, Volume #12 Sat, 20 May 00 12:13:07 EDT
Contents:
i820 chipset support? (Chris Rankin)
!!!!! ("DesCo")
Building own computer - for Windows 2000 Pro + Linux (Tan Min-Han)
ZIP drive problems (Dave Sheridan)
Re: Server Keyboard, Mouse & Monitor Frozen ("Raimund Sacherer")
Re: Print server help is welcome... ("Boris")
Re: Print server help is welcome... (Mark Bratcher)
Re: Building own computer - for Windows 2000 Pro + Linux ("Jeff")
Anger & RedHat (Slightly Off Topic) ("Jeff")
Re: Strange Lilo "LI" problems ("Andrew P. Billyard")
Re: Print server help is welcome... ("Boris")
Re: i820 chipset support? (Pat Crean)
Re: Anger & RedHat (Slightly Off Topic) (Dances With Crows)
Re: 2 nic (Mantiz)
Re: Building own computer - for Windows 2000 Pro + Linux (Dances With Crows)
Q&A from this NG 17 May ("K.Tsakaloglou")
Q&A from this NG 20 May ("K.Tsakaloglou")
Re: sound problems (Dances With Crows)
Re: ZIP drive problems (Dances With Crows)
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From: Chris Rankin <au.zipworld.com@{no.spam}rankinc>
Subject: i820 chipset support?
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 18:51:00 +1000
Hi,
I have seen a lot of posts about i810 chipset support, but I have been
looking at motherboards with i820 chips. Granted, it's a sure bet that
if i810 is still being worked on then i820 support isn't there yet.
However, I was wondering what this would mean to an end user. I assume
that the board would still work OK with Linux, but some of the flashier
hardware features would go unused, correct? I was trying to avoid the
i820, but the supplier I was talking to was saying that he can't get
hold of 600 MHz PIII CPUs for anything but a 133 MHz bus.
At least the front-runner among the motherboards (ASUS P3C-D) I am
considering at the moment supports SDRAM (with the help of a riser
card). It's even mentioned in the Linux Hardware Database, but no-one
has rated it yet.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this, please?
Cheers,
Chris.
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From: "DesCo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: !!!!!
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 09:00:54 GMT
http://www.es-facil.com/ganar/alta?Id=62854380
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tan Min-Han)
Subject: Building own computer - for Windows 2000 Pro + Linux
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 10:11:47 GMT
As a non-techie (who's way too old), I'd like to seek advice from
anyone who can help.
I really, really would like to build my first computer. =) I am
hoping to run Win2k Pro on master HD and Linux on slave HD. My planned
system specs are as below - I'd truly appreciate it if there are any
problems, hardware/ software/ otherwise which I might encounter. If
there are alternative opinions as to how I should go about W2k Pro/
Linux setting up, I'd appreciate that too.
Processor: Athlon K7-700 MhZ
Motherboard: Asus K7V KX 133 chipset
Memory: 1 stick 128 MB PC133 SDRAM DIMM (72 bit wide ECC) (branded)
Case: In Win Q500
*Power supply: 300 W
Heatsink Global Win VOS32
Video: Matrox Millenium G400 Dualhead 32 MB
Hard Drive:
(Master) Maxtor Diamondmax IDE 40+ 20.8 GB 7200 rpm GB
(Slave) Seagate 10GB 5400 rpm
Floppy Disk Drive 3.5": Generic
Monitor: Sony Flatron 17"
Soundcard: Sound Blaster Live! Value
Speakers: Labtec 2422
Keyboard + Mouse: Logitech Keyboard + Mouse
DVD: Pioneer 10x40
CDROM: Sony 48x
Thanks in advance!
Min-Han
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Sheridan)
Subject: ZIP drive problems
Date: 20 May 2000 11:20:48 GMT
I've just bought a second-hand parallel port ZIP drive (100Mb) and am trying
to get kernel support (2.2.15 running over Debian potato) for it. I have SCSI
support and SCSI disk support, no printer support, and as modules parport,
parport_pc, imm and ppa. I don't know whether the drive should be imm or ppa
but I suspect the latter, since it's likely to be a couple of years old.
insmod ppa tells me that it can't find any attached devices, and then
init_module: Device or resource busy pops up. Similar message for imm. This is
whether or not parport_pc has been inserted, and both appear to depend on
parport so this is always present.
Any ideas what's going wrong? Can't find mention in the HOWTO about this. I
don't know whether I should be using parport_pc and if so what the settings
should be so help with any of this would be appreciated.
-Dave
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From: "Raimund Sacherer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Server Keyboard, Mouse & Monitor Frozen
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 11:33:09 GMT
The Chip is not so hard to identify, WINBOUND is written on it. In my case
(ASUS PLsomething) it resides left to the PCI slots!
regards Raimund
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yidao Cai
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> For me it worked with following workaround: i got a cpu cooler
>> (approximatly 5$) and cut off a piece of the cooling body. This i
>> glued over the Chip. Since that moment i had never ever such an hang on
>> the mouse & keyboard!!!!!
>
> where is that chip and how to identify it on the MB?
>
> cai
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> This i glued
> <br>over the Chip. Since that moment i had never ever such an hang on
> the
> <br>mouse & keyboard!!!!!</blockquote>
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> <pre>where is that chip and how to identify it on the MB?</pre>
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> <pre>cai</pre>
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From: "Boris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Print server help is welcome...
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 14:21:22 +0200
Got Slackware 7.0(2.2.14 kernel)...
i will try to install this package right away..thanks
Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Boris wrote:
> >
> > hi
> >
> > problem : we have Accton Ether-duo network print server on our local
> > network. what i got is print-server filter source code for unix(bsd,
svr4,
> > hp...etc), but not for linux. i tried svr4(among others) configuration
and
> > it seems to work to some degree, but i get garbage on the paper...(btw,
> > printer attached to the printserver is laserjet 1100).
> >
> > Any suggestions?
>
> You didn't mention what distribution of Linux you have.
>
> If it's RedHat, you can run printtool and select network printer. Set
> the 1100 up as a LaserJet 4/5/6 without PostScript.
>
> HTH
> --
> Mark Bratcher
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Print server help is welcome...
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:39:30 -0400
Boris wrote:
>
> Got Slackware 7.0(2.2.14 kernel)...
>
> i will try to install this package right away..thanks
>
Look for Slackware's printer administration tool. I don't know if it's
called 'printtool' as it is in RedHat.
--
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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Reply-To: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Building own computer - for Windows 2000 Pro + Linux
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:26:05 -0500
Hey bud,
Personally, I would get more RAM and 2 Western Digital HD. I basically
have the same setup you do and I have no problems (except for the fact that
I don't use linux. But now I have a laptop also, so that fixed that
problem). You might want to ask your video card in a new message to the
group. I'm not sure if it will work, but its a good idea to ask.
Jeff
"Tan Min-Han" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> As a non-techie (who's way too old), I'd like to seek advice from
> anyone who can help.
>
> I really, really would like to build my first computer. =) I am
> hoping to run Win2k Pro on master HD and Linux on slave HD. My planned
> system specs are as below - I'd truly appreciate it if there are any
> problems, hardware/ software/ otherwise which I might encounter. If
> there are alternative opinions as to how I should go about W2k Pro/
> Linux setting up, I'd appreciate that too.
>
> Processor: Athlon K7-700 MhZ
> Motherboard: Asus K7V KX 133 chipset
> Memory: 1 stick 128 MB PC133 SDRAM DIMM (72 bit wide ECC) (branded)
> Case: In Win Q500
> *Power supply: 300 W
> Heatsink Global Win VOS32
> Video: Matrox Millenium G400 Dualhead 32 MB
> Hard Drive:
> (Master) Maxtor Diamondmax IDE 40+ 20.8 GB 7200 rpm GB
> (Slave) Seagate 10GB 5400 rpm
> Floppy Disk Drive 3.5": Generic
> Monitor: Sony Flatron 17"
> Soundcard: Sound Blaster Live! Value
> Speakers: Labtec 2422
> Keyboard + Mouse: Logitech Keyboard + Mouse
> DVD: Pioneer 10x40
> CDROM: Sony 48x
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Min-Han
>
>
>
>
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Reply-To: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Anger & RedHat (Slightly Off Topic)
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:27:22 -0500
Hey all, just curious:
Why are people hate RedHat so much?? I see that some people really rip
on RedHat. Please fill me in :)
Thanks
Jeff
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From: "Andrew P. Billyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Strange Lilo "LI" problems
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:31:04 GMT
I had a similar problem once before and it was because of the LBA in the
BIOS. I changed the drive type from LBA to NORMAL in BIOS and everything
worked fine. This may not be the answer, but it worked for me.
Neil Koozer wrote:
> "LI" means it's loading things from the wrong physical address on the
> hard drive. The bios (at boot time) is doing something different with
> sector adresses than what Linux does when it's running. This is
> referred to as a geometry mismatch. The 'linear' option is designed to
> fix this problem, but since you tried that, it must be due to a strange
> logic design in the bios.
>
> How did you set the CHS geometry in the bios? Did you set the numbers
> themselves or select some mode that resulted in those numbers? Did you
> partition after setting the numbers?
>
> If the drive itself has LBA capability you can use the nuni boot loader,
> which does not use the bios. It does not use the concept of cylinders
> or geometry, so the chances are that it would work here. It can be
> found at ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/loaders
>
> Neil.
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From: "Boris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Print server help is welcome...
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 15:37:35 +0200
no, there is no printtool in slackware...
however, there is script called apsfilter, which is an input filter...
unfortunately it only works with local printers
right now i am modifying printcap file...
btw, can i use PSfilter(supplied by accton) as an output filter?
Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Boris wrote:
> >
> > Got Slackware 7.0(2.2.14 kernel)...
> >
> > i will try to install this package right away..thanks
> >
>
> Look for Slackware's printer administration tool. I don't know if it's
> called 'printtool' as it is in RedHat.
>
> --
> Mark Bratcher
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:21:31 -0400
From: Pat Crean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: i820 chipset support?
You might want to re-think that decision -- Intel's recalling 820 boards
with sdram support --- bugs in the memory translator chip can cause random
lockups and reboots........
http://www.intel.com/support/mth/index.htm?iid=update+000510&; for
details.....
Chris Rankin wrote:
> Hi,
> I have seen a lot of posts about i810 chipset support, but I have been
> looking at motherboards with i820 chips. Granted, it's a sure bet that
> if i810 is still being worked on then i820 support isn't there yet.
> However, I was wondering what this would mean to an end user. I assume
> that the board would still work OK with Linux, but some of the flashier
> hardware features would go unused, correct? I was trying to avoid the
> i820, but the supplier I was talking to was saying that he can't get
> hold of 600 MHz PIII CPUs for anything but a 133 MHz bus.
>
> At least the front-runner among the motherboards (ASUS P3C-D) I am
> considering at the moment supports SDRAM (with the help of a riser
> card). It's even mentioned in the Linux Hardware Database, but no-one
> has rated it yet.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on this, please?
> Cheers,
> Chris.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anger & RedHat (Slightly Off Topic)
Date: 20 May 2000 11:27:14 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 20 May 2000 08:27:22 -0500, Jeff
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Hey all, just curious:
> Why are people hate RedHat so much?? I see that some people really rip
>on RedHat. Please fill me in :)
RedHat is the biggest/most visible Linux distro company at the moment, so
a good many computers running Linux are running the RedHat variety of
same. It's fashionable to hate the big guy and cheer for the little guy,
for reasons which are deeply rooted in human psychology. Maybe it's
because people think that if MS vanished overnight, Bob Young would start
acting just lke Bill Gates.
That said, there are some things wrong with RedHat's distro.
0. User private groups? Yech! Completely unneccessary.
1. RPMs. Oh, they seem to work well at first, but it's terribly easy to
get lost in a twisty maze of dependencies, all slightly different.
2. Convoluted, complex init-script layout in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and
also in /etc/sysconfig/ that for some strange reason overwrites /etc/issue
upon every boot.
3. Silly default settings for a number of things like PS1.
Similar arguments can be made for every distro in existence, though. The
truth is that All Software Sucks, and RedHat is taking flak because
they're the most visible at the moment.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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From: Mantiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 nic
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 15:28:37 GMT
I'm not sure if you have tryed this. but when i set up 2 network cards
in the same box i had to add the line
append="ether=eth1"
into my /etc/lilo.conf file, then run lilo to make the changes take
effect. you will also have to re-start the machine. after that it should
detect the second card.
Jeff
"A. Khan" wrote:
> In /etc/conf.modules you need to add a line like
>
> alias eth1 3c509
>
> You also need to create appropriate file
> (similar to the one for eth0) defining the IP and
> other parameters for eth1 in
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts (please see Redhat
> docs for further details).
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, TomC
> says...
> >
> >Hi, I have a question.
> >I already have a network card in my redhat 6.0
> box. Later, I added a new
> >3com 3c509 network card in that box. After the
> system had restarted, I
> >could not find any eth1 by type dmesg|grep eth
> and just find eth0 that
> >is the existing one. So, I type insmod
> /lib/modules/net/3c509.o to load
> >that modules. Then, I can find eth1. However,
> that module seems not
> >exist after reboot and I need to type insmod
> /lib/modules/net/3c509.o
> >again.
> >How can I make that new card available forever?
> >Thanks
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> A. Khan
> EMAIL address is ->> knura at yahoo dot com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Building own computer - for Windows 2000 Pro + Linux
Date: 20 May 2000 11:34:30 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 20 May 2000 10:11:47 GMT, Tan Min-Han
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I really, really would like to build my first computer. =) I am
>hoping to run Win2k Pro on master HD and Linux on slave HD. My planned
>system specs are as below - I'd truly appreciate it if there are any
>problems, hardware/ software/ otherwise which I might encounter. If
>there are alternative opinions as to how I should go about W2k Pro/
>Linux setting up, I'd appreciate that too.
[snip]
>Video: Matrox Millenium G400 Dualhead 32 MB
>Soundcard: Sound Blaster Live! Value
>DVD: Pioneer 10x40
>CDROM: Sony 48x
Everything should work well, but see below:
Don't bother getting both a DVD and a CD-ROM. DVDs can read CD-ROM discs,
so save $50 and just get the DVD, or spend another $100 and get a CD-RW
instead of a CD-ROM. The Matrox G400 is well-supported under Linux, but
for dual-head support you need to buy a commercial X-server at the
moment. This will get fixed later, I presume. The SB Live series seem to
be a pain in the arse to install under Linux, but the latest kernel
includes the appropriate modules in the main source tree--no need to
patch, just compile the emu10k module and go.
To set up Lose2K and Linux at the same time, have a look at the
documentation on http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ on getting Linux to work with
NT. Lose2K and LoseNT are very similar. Good luck....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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From: "K.Tsakaloglou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q&A from this NG 17 May
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 18:32:59 +0300
Questions and answers from this newsgroup (archived by subject) can be found
at http://server.hellug.gr/LUGistics/en/pub/QA_articles_main.php3
Links suggested in those messages are categorized at
http://links.hellug.gr
K.Tsakaloglou
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "K.Tsakaloglou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q&A from this NG 20 May
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 18:33:44 +0300
Questions and answers from this newsgroup (archived by subject) can be found
at http://server.hellug.gr/LUGistics/en/pub/QA_articles_main.php3
Links suggested in those messages are categorized at
http://links.hellug.gr
K.Tsakaloglou
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: sound problems
Date: 20 May 2000 11:48:30 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 20 May 2000 00:19:54 -0400, raistlin
<<8g53nn$i6e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I've just recently gotten into linux. I currently have Mandrake 7.0
>installed. Problem is, it won't detect my sound card. (which has an Opti
>82c931 chip). Does anyone have any information on how to get that working
>in linux?
Find out which IRQ, I/O, and DMA values the card uses in DOS. Then you
should read the documentation in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/Opti
for what to do next. All the modules you need should be compiled and in
the right place already; you'll probably just have to execute the
following command:
modprobe mad16 irq=X io=Y dma=Z dma16=W
Y will probably be 0x530, but don't take my word for it. W is the
higher-numbered DMA channel you see in DOS.
>Also, does anyone have any suggestions on a better browser than Netscape?
Define "better". KDE's file manager/browser, kfm, is much more
lightweight and less crash-prone, but it lacks some features. (SSL,
integrated mail/news client, plugins) Lynx and w3m are completely stable
and very lightweight... but they're text-only. Mozilla is supposed to be
the future of Netscape, but it's still in development.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: ZIP drive problems
Date: 20 May 2000 11:50:50 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 May 2000 11:20:48 GMT, Dave Sheridan
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I've just bought a second-hand parallel port ZIP drive (100Mb) and am trying
>to get kernel support (2.2.15 running over Debian potato) for it. I have SCSI
>support and SCSI disk support, no printer support, and as modules parport,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I suggest you compile parallel printer support as a module, then plug the
drive in and try first "modprobe ppa" then "modprobe imm". The options
you want for parport_pc are probably "io=0x378 irq=7" and you want the
parallel port set in the BIOS to EPP mode. HTH, HAND.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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