Linux-Hardware Digest #148, Volume #13 Thu, 29 Jun 00 09:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Hang during boot (need advice) (Felix Miata)
ZIP 250 USB supported in RH 6.1? ("Edward Grigson")
Re: Hang during boot (need advice) (Kenneth Rørvik)
inetd problem (Natius van der Watt)
Re: HP, Linux, and tape drives :-( ("Rask0")
Re: Which /dev Device Is The ide-tape Kernel Module Associated With? ("Rask0")
Re: Hardware Raid Controler (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= Cottalorda)
Re: ATI Rage 128 XPERT 2000 - distortion problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
CD-WRITER ATAPI ("Baumann Reto")
Re: CD-WRITER ATAPI (Michael Hofmann)
How can I set up Linux to work with Xerox P8ex Laser printer ("K. M. Lau")
IBM 20GIG harddrive invisible (Wesley Wong)
Re: ZIP 250 USB supported in RH 6.1? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Linux Install Lockup (DeAnn Iwan)
Re: xset dpms no longer works ("Ferdinand V. Mendoza")
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From: Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: Hang during boot (need advice)
Reply-To: Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:18:16 -0400
Steve Goldman wrote:
> Please give me 2 minutes of thought and your $.02. I know the information
> is light, but I'm just asking what to throw away and what to keep. Thanks
> in advance.
> 1. Computer was cheap PC clone with Cyrix 266 processor. Win98, Linux, and
> FreeBSD ran fine (LILO boot loader).
> 2. It began to crash unexpectedly, run slow, behave badly. I took it back
> to seller.
> 3. After investingation, seller says, "You messed up the processor by
> playing with CMOS settings. It's all your fault. I'll fix for you anyway."
> Note: I had never touched CMOS settings.
> 4. I got machine back with Celeron 233 processor and new motherboard.
> Seller told me he could not get machine to boot unless he ran the processor
> at 200 MHz, but that's all he'd do for me.
> 5. Bad behavior became worse, the death rattle began. The machine began to
> hang on boot every time. I gave up and bought a new, cheap PC clone.
> 6. A year went by, and I hoped that the machine might have magically
> repaired itself. Machine booted OK. I reformatted the HD and loaded RedHat
> 6.2. It locked up during the install twice, but third time's the charm.
> The machine booted up and ran fine.
> 7. After a day or two, hang on boot every time began again. The symptoms
> are this: Machine finds all 32 M RAM, seems to find all hardware OK. Linux
> gets to INIT and then hang/crash occurs. Sometimes INIT reports processes
> are spawning too fast and it needs to wait 5 minutes (it never gets going
> again). Sometimes PANIC occurs and all sorts of ugly stuff appears on the
> screen (like register contents or something).
> 8. I removed and reseated the processor and the memory (but not any other
> cards). No joy.
> What's my next move? I would buy another motherboard and processor (cheap)
> if I thought that would work. I'd like to have a second computer. Thanks
> again for your help.
Steve Goldman wrote:
> > Sounds like some parts of the system have problems talking to each other.
> > Maybe defect hardware, but could it be that either the memory or CPU have
> > trouble with the bus speed? Try to figure out the settings for the system
> > bus, and which motherboard and memory you have, and post some more details
> > ::)
> Thank you for your response.
> The processor is a Cyrix 6x86MX PR266, 83MHz Bus/2.5x, 2.7V. BIOS reports
> the processor is running at 200MHz
> BIOS reports that motherboard is VxPro, but chipsets say VxTwo. Apparently
> there is a difference between VxPro and VxTwo, but I think both are supposed
> to be pretty crappy chipsets.
> Bus is set to 66Mz with jumper, voltage is set to 2.8 V (there is no jumper
> setting for 2.7 V).
If the chip is 2.7v it may be oversupplied at 2.8v.
> I think clock multiplier is set at 1.5x. It's hard to tell because the
> jumper pattern for multiplier settings that is printed on the board doesn't
> match the the jumper number I think is used to set the multiplier. That is,
> the pattern shows jumper set 5 as having two jumpers with two permutations
> each. Jumper set 5 actually has 3 jumpers with two permutations each, and
> is located right next to the BIOS chip. Only 2 jumpers are actually
> installed. Jumper set 6 has two jumpers with two permutations each and is
> located right next to the processor socket. Jumper set 6 seems to be set to
> 1.5x Jumper set 5, if it were actually the clock multiplier jumper, would
> be set at 3x.
If when it starts to boot it reports an expected speed they you are OK
as far as jumper settings.
> Memory is two 8M 72-pin EDO.
> That's all I know. I am at the extreme limit of my knowlege. I appreciate
> any additional suggestions.
To see if everything else is OK, try to find a Pentium MMX 200 or 233
(P55C) to try instead, or an older K6 chip that runs on one of the
voltage settings your motherboard can supply. 200 & 233 P55C is common
and cheap due to widespread upgrading to compatible K6 varieties. Some
sources still have new ones available. Many had trouble with the Cyrix
CPU like you have. Your system may be usable with a different CPU chip.
--
Whoever gives heed to instruction prospers, and blessed is he who trusts
in the Lord. Proverbs 16:20 NKJV
Team OS/2
Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net
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From: "Edward Grigson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ZIP 250 USB supported in RH 6.1?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:23:00 +1000
Does Linux support USB prior to the 2.4 kernel? If so, how/where can I find
info. on getting this working. The Iomega website doesn't have any drivers
for the USB models.
Thanks,
ed.
--
Edward Grigson MCSE BSc(Hons)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: +61 (0)413 378072
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: Hang during boot (need advice)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Rørvik)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:25:15 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Goldman) wrote in
<8jeeti$rb4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>The processor is a Cyrix 6x86MX PR266, 83MHz Bus/2.5x, 2.7V. BIOS
>reports the processor is running at 200MHz
I don't have much experience with Cyrix CPUs, but I know that the specs you
are listing are correct. The 2.5x is the core/bus ratio. If your bios
reports 200MHz, the setup is already wrong. But underclocking is less of a
problem than overclocking.
>Bus is set to 66Mz with jumper, voltage is set to 2.8 V (there is no
>jumper setting for 2.7 V).
That is already an incompatibility between the CPU and motherboard
(voltage), but the Cyrix should be fine running at 2.8. There have been
reported voltage incompatibility problems with the older 6x86's though..
The Cyrix is designed for a bus speed of 83MHz, but should also work at 66.
>I think clock multiplier is set at 1.5x. It's hard to tell because the
Probably not. 200MHz=3x66MHz. Try 4x66=266 if you can figure out the right
jumper combo.
>socket. Jumper set 6 seems to be set to 1.5x Jumper set 5, if it were
>actually the clock multiplier jumper, would be set at 3x.
That's more likely, see above :)
It's sometimes hard to tell what the problems on such systems are, and I
know that the Cyrix's have a somewhat shaky history on these models, so try
a few different settings, you may have more luck at 83MHz bus, but probably
not.
--
Kenneth Rørvik 91841353/22718452
Steenstrupsgate 5 B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0554 OSLO home.no.net/stasis
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From: Natius van der Watt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: inetd problem
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:03:37 +0200
Hi All,
Ok, me = newbie, so excuse all stupidity, but please help.
Running RH 6.2 and KDE peoblem: I can't telnet ftp etc. to my machene,
someone told me the "inetd" demon should be running, but it ain't. I ran
'Setup' to see if I can run it automatically, bit it aint there.
Also Hving problrms with my dail-up, could this be part of the rpoblem
?
Help very much appretiated !!
:-)
Natius.
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From: "Rask0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP, Linux, and tape drives :-(
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:04:24 -0700
No, you pretty much got the deluxe treatment.
I too managed to get an HP 20GB working under RH6.1.
Alan Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I've just spent much of today trying to find a tape backup device
> which'll work with Linux, and in the process found out an awful lot about
> things I'd rather not know.
>
> Traipsing round the computer shops in Schillerstraße in Munich (there are
> a lot of them :-), nobody seemed to want to sell me one. Yes, they sold,
> for example, HP Colorado/Travan drives (or whatever they're called), and
> no, they didn't know if they worked under Linux, and they didn't give a
> damn, either: "Take it or leave it, sir!". One shop assured me that the
> OnStream 15("30")Gb drive _wouldn't_ work with Linux.
>
> Back home, hit the manufacturers' web sites. HP barely gave Linux a
> mention, and then only for one of their high-end server level drives. So
> I fired off an email to their support department asking:
>
> > I want to buy a tape backup drive. The shop keepers are clueless about
> > whether or not they will work under Linux. Do they? If so with what
> > device driver? /dev/ht0 and /dev/nht0, perhaps? Please answer this
> > question for _ALL_ your models of tape drive, so that I can choose :-)
>
> The reply came back within the hour: "At this time we do not provide
> software or drivers for the Linux operating system." and went on to
> suggest I contact my "Linux manufacturer" for a list of supported drives.
> Talk about patronizing non-answers! I wish he'd just said "Sorry, I don't
> know".
>
> Then I visited www.onstream.com. What a difference! Not only do they
> positively recognise Linux, they even tell you about the kernal patch you
> might (?) need, and direct you to bru's developers.
>
> Later on I decided to scan comp.os.linux.hardware, and it would appear
> that HP's drives are indeed routinely supported by /dev/ht0 and
> /dev/nht0.
>
> What is it about HP that they dislike Linux so much? I cannot believe
> that their prime support people, even around lunch-time (in the USA) on a
> Friday, can be so ignorant. Does HP really see no market in selling
> drives to hordes of Linux users like me? Or is there some sort of
> pressure being applied to HP by Microsoft not to promote Linux on desktop
> machines? Or something?
>
> Has anybody else had any more positive experience with HP wrt backup tape
> drives?
>
> --
> Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany)
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter
> (like "aa"), remove one of them (leaving, say, "a").
>
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From: "Rask0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which /dev Device Is The ide-tape Kernel Module Associated With?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:09:32 -0700
I used "modprobe -v ide_tape" with my RH6.1
I got /dev/ht0 - HP 20GB works just fine
Edward Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a Seagate STT38000A IDE tape drive and it needs the ide-tape
> module in the kernel. This has been done, but I need to know which
> device in the /dev directory to use.
>
> I tried /dev/ht0. While I can use it to retension the tape, trying to
> tar a file to it results in a complete system crash with a hardware
> reset needed for a reboot. Obviously not a good choice.
>
> Also, since ftape is for a tape drive hanging off a floppy controller,
> the /dev/rft*'s would be of no use.
>
> The ide-tape module is now loaded during boot up using an rc file.
> I believe that is all I need to access the tape drive, or am I missing
> something (other than the device name)?
>
> Edward Nash Jr.
>
>
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= Cottalorda
Subject: Re: Hardware Raid Controler
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:17:41 +0200
Hi,
I actually use 5 AMI Megaraid Cards on 5 different server (HP LH3 and
HP E60 servers with RedHat 6.0) since 01/01/2000 and I've encoutered
neither errors nor difficulties to install them.
Sebastien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Does anyone know wich raidcontoler best to use for raidlevel 5?
> I've got to configure a system for medical data and our custumer
> want's to be sure no data gets lost. I'm planing to use RH6.2.
>
> Thanx in advance,
>
> Kees
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ATI Rage 128 XPERT 2000 - distortion problem
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:42:52 GMT
In the meantime, I've asked David St. Clair
( http://www4.ncsu.edu/~distclai/rage128-howto.html ) what
could go wrong with the XPERT 2000.
I've painted the distortion problem into a screen shot, so it's
easier to discuss how the distortions look like (if you need the
picture, mail me).
Here is his answer:
=======
I have seen another computer that used an older ATI Mach 64 card
and a cheap monitor that had a similar problem (Emachine).
We fixed it by upgrading to 4.0 and things got much clearer and the
distortions went away. I don't suppose you are running 4.0?
I don't know what else to tell you. Not many people have this problem.
=======
So, I'll do an upgrade to XFree86 4.0 and see what happens.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Baumann Reto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD-WRITER ATAPI
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:55:08 +0200
I have the following problem:
I installed a ATAPI CD-WRITER under Linux (Suse 1.4). Everything works
fine... I can burn my cd's. But I can't mount the drive to read normal cd's.
Any help?
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From: Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD-WRITER ATAPI
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:02:26 +0200
Baumann Reto wrote:
>
> I installed a ATAPI CD-WRITER under Linux (Suse 1.4). Everything works
> fine... I can burn my cd's. But I can't mount the drive to read normal cd's.
Change your fstab entry to mount it as a SCSI device, e.g. /dev/scd0.
There you go.
Good luck,
Michael
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From: "K. M. Lau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How can I set up Linux to work with Xerox P8ex Laser printer
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:25:26 +0800
Dear Sir :
I have brought the Xerox P8ex laser printer. But I can not find it on the
Linux hardware printer list.
So, are there any way to setup Xerox P8ex laser printer work with Linux ? or
where can I got the driver ?
Hope to have any reply soon.
Thanks,
K. M. Lau
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From: Wesley Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IBM 20GIG harddrive invisible
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:30:04 GMT
I am using ABIT BP6 motherboard and IBM 20GIG HD in UDMA (IDE3)
(and also with a 2GIG WD HD in IDE1 -- nonUDMA)
When I am trying to install Linux, it's invisible in the partition menu.
(only the 2GIG HD is showing which I already install win2000 in there)
How can I make it recognize my drive? I've had the same problem in
windows2000, but I found the driver for 2000 already and fixed the problem
long ago. But linux doesn't seems to have such driver...
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: ZIP 250 USB supported in RH 6.1?
Date: 29 Jun 2000 08:04:40 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:23:00 +1000, Edward Grigson
<<8jeths$63h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Does Linux support USB prior to the 2.4 kernel?
Not particularly. There are backports to 2.2.x, but it would probably be
easier to just use a known "stable" 2.3 or 2.4 release. FWIW 2.3.99-pre3
didn't suffer as much from the horrible VM problems plaguing the current
development kernel...
>If so, how/where can I find info. on getting this working. The Iomega
>website doesn't have any drivers for the USB models.
You expect Iomega's official wing to give a damn about Linux? Hee
hee. Anyway, the ZIP 250 should be seen as a normal USB-storage device
under the 2.3 and 2.4 series, provided you compile the kernel with the
correct options. http://linux-usb.org/ has more information on Linux and
USB devices.
>Edward Grigson MCSE BSc(Hons)
'Sallright, we won't hold it against you. :-]
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: DeAnn Iwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux Install Lockup
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:11:36 -0400
Andrey Vlasov wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> you should use Windows system floppy and run command
>
> fdisk /MBR
>
> it will remove lilo from MBR. After that use fdisk as usually and
> partiotion disk according your requirements.
>
> Andrey
Old DOS fdisk did not handle non-MS partitions well. If your DOS
fdisk cannot see/handle non-MS partitions, you can get DR DOS--which
will-- or make a linux rescue/boot floppy (from net sources or your red
hat cd) and get linux fdisk to delete the linux partitions.
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From: "Ferdinand V. Mendoza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: xset dpms no longer works
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:22:24 +0400
I have the same problem and if you set the settings
on the DPMS it will tell you a warning that
the current XFree 4.0 on Mandrake 7.1 has been
compiled without DPMS support.
Some other posts had suggested to add options DPMS
line on both the screen and monitor section of the
config file. I still have to confirm this.
Ferdinand
Shippy! wrote:
> I've recently installed Linux Mandrake 7.1 and I'm using
> XFree86 4.0. Before, I was running RedHat Linux 6.1 with
> XFree86 3.3.6 When I used to run RedHat, I had a line in
> my .xinitrc that said 'xset dpms 0 0 300' and after 5
> minutes of idle time my monitor would go into sleep mode.
>
> Now, I'm still trying to use that same line to make my
> monitor sleep, but it no longer turns off. Even if I
> say 'xset dpms force off', my monitor doesn't turn off.
> I'm sure it has something to do with the new X server
> I'm running, but I'm not sure how to fix it.
>
> X detects my monitor as a standard SVGA and my video
> card is an nVIDIA TNT2 running with 32bpp at 1024x768.
> If anybody could help me fix this, I would really appreciate
> it. Thanks!
>
> --
> +-----------------------------------------------------+
> | Jeff "Shippy" Shipman E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
> | Computer Science Major ICQ: 1786493 |
> | New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology |
> | Homepage: http://www.nmt.edu/~shippy |
> +-----------------------------------------------------+
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