Linux-Hardware Digest #386, Volume #13            Wed, 9 Aug 00 05:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Creative labs sound card (Dances With Crows)
  Re: HP DDS2 and DDS3 backward compatibility (Juergen Pfann)
  bt829 chipset ("Yoong-Young, Kim")
  Re: Advice for celeron vs pentium under Linux ("John Mazza")
  Re: Cannon BJC printer ("John Mazza")
  Re: Linux on AMD ("John Mazza")
  Re: Old Cpu ("John Mazza")
  IRQ under Linux ("Antony Lee")
  Re: scsi mystery (Staffan Emren)
  Re: idebus speed ("kc")
  Re: problems with a 30GB hard disk (under Suse6.4) (Torsten Metzner)
  Re: Linux on AMD (dog)
  modem doesn't want to work on old 486 ("michal l.")
  Re: HELP! -  "mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device" (Kenneth Rørvik)
  Re: Why is my harddisk so slow? (Kenneth Rørvik)
  Re: Hard Drive Errors (sideband)
  Re: linux and i810 (Jarek)
  Re: modem doesn't want to work on old 486 (sideband)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Creative labs sound card
Date: 9 Aug 2000 04:18:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 08 Aug 2000 22:51:42 -0400, daemar wrote:
>This is the help I get from creative labs: I'm sorry, but there are no
>files are available for Sound Blaster Ensoniq AudioPCI
>Unreal is a bitch without sound  any help out there for a linux
>system......?

Your message is a bit unclear.  I was unaware that Unreal had been
ported to Linux, and "Soundblaster" and "Ensoniq AudioPCI" are two
different types of soundcards.

Anyway, if this is a PCI card, you can find out exactly what's up by
entering "cat /proc/pci".  Your average card that's marketed as an
"Ensoniq AudioPCI" will actually be an ES1371 or ES1370, and report
itself as such in the "cat /proc/pci" output.  In a stock distro, you
can get such a card to work merely by entering:

modprobe es1370
or
modprobe es1371

as root.  If the module isn't available, recompile the kernel, paying
close attention to the "Sound" section, and compiling ES137[01] support
in as a module.  HTH,

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /   Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com     /    than freedom.
=============================/              ==Charles Peguy

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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP DDS2 and DDS3 backward compatibility
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 06:17:53 +0200

Stefan Viljoen wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Excuse me, this may be a bit OT:
> 
> Are HP DDS3 4mm DAT tapes downward compatible with HP DD2 - written 4mm DAT
> tapes?
> 
> I have a situation at work were we are upgrading servers (SCO Unix) to
> DDS3-using primaries, with a planned weekly switchon of "retired" DDS2
> equipped servers and a load-to-synchronize on the old systems.
> 
> All this falls apart if the DDS2 drives on the old systems cannot read the
> DDS3 written 4mm tapes originating on the new systems.
> 
> Anybody encountered this before? Can a HP DDS3 read a HP DDS2 written tape?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Stefan Viljoen
> 

You could omit the manufacturer's two letters in the subject of your
post 
and your two questions above - that would not alter anything (YES, there 
are DDS drives from other companies, too...).
I do have no problems whatsoever with read and write access to (read
carefully, 
please) DDS 1 media written by our HP workstation' DDS 2 drive with my 
private Intel PCs' Sony DDS 3 and Archive DDS 1 drives. 
You get the idea ? The term "media recognition system" describes the
main 
idea of DDS compatibility - the drives automatically switch to the
highest 
density within the DDS "family" spec. that is supported by drive AND
media. 
Thus, the greatest common denom. in the above case is DDS 1, forced by 
the tape media. Would I use DDS 2 media instead, then my Archive DDS 1 
couldn't read the media. 
But the story isn't finished here ;-). When I only had the Archive DDS 1 
as my first "real" (not floppy) streamer, I accidentally got a bunch of 
DDS 2 media from a mail order comp. - and they were happily usable as if 
they were DDS 1, so I decided not to exchange them. After having bought 
the Sony DDS 3, I was able to re-format them (taking 3 hours each), so 
these tapes can store 4 GB uncompressed again - as opposed to 2 GB
before ! 
Of course (you guessed it), these aren't readable again by the DDS 1
drive...
So, finally, as answer to your questions, I'd say : YES, you should be 
able to exchange _DDS 2_ media (but not DDS 3, of course) between DDS 2 
and DDS 3 drives, and each drive should be able to read what the other's 
written.
I said "should" because there IS a small chance of HW incompatibility 
left, for instance drive heads' de-adjustment, or HW compression 
enabled on one drive and disabled on the other - but in theory, it's 
supposed to work the way you want it.

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From: "Yoong-Young, Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bt829 chipset
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:15:53 +0900

I want to detect 'bt829' overlay board.

I found 'ATI-card bt829' but I don't know
how to use.

How can I use 'bt829'?



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From: "John Mazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Advice for celeron vs pentium under Linux
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 05:42:10 GMT

I've been running Linux on an AMD K6-2 350 clocked to 366 MHz with no
problems whatsoever.  AMD is making some absolutely killer processors
nowadays, and beating the pants off Intel price-wise at the same time.  I
have also worked with the Athlon processors, and they are great too.
Haven't had a chance to check out the "Duron" yet, but will as soon as
possible.

A company I do some work with just delivered an Athlon 900 to a client
equipped with 1 GB of PC 133 SDRAM, Ultra/160 SCSI drives, and other
goodies.  This client originally specified a $18,000 dual Xeon 550 (2 MB
Cache version) with 1 GB of 800 MHz RDRAM for this machine, and it was
disappoiningly slow for their application (we are talking SEVERE engineering
number crunching here).  The Athlon blew away everything they had by a
factor of at least 2, was the fastest they had ever seen, and put them
seriously into the AMD camp for high-end workstation applications.  BTW -
the benchmarks blew away an Alpha 600 MHz machine by a VERY comfortable
margin!  (Guess there really is something to be said for a 200 MHz front-end
bus after all.)

Therefore, I reccomend the AMDs without any reservation at all.  They work,
they are screamingly fast, and are less costly than the Intel.




Stefan Viljoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8mji33$fvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hello all --
> >
> > I realize this is probably a hot question for debate, but I am wondering
> > if they feel Pentium or Celeron is a better choice for Linux.
> >
> > What is it considered?  A i386 build?  Or is it 586?  686? something
> > else?
> >
> > I am considering getting a laptop (cheap) and running Linux... given my
> > budget many of the machines I'm looking at have (mobile) Celeron
> > processors... Anyone know if its worth holding out for a real Pentium?
> > or are AMD's any good?  I do a fair amount of compiling/etc and don't
> > want to have a flaky CPU.
>
> Well, I run Linux (RedHat 6.0 - kernel 2.5.5-15) on a 400mHz
Celeron-powered
> system with 256 megs of RAM. Linux says it is on an "i686" at bootup and
> some stuff I have compiled (to get my tape drive working, for example)
> required my to select processor type where i686 was available. I selected
it
> as "i686" and it worked just fine - I have full access to and can utilise
my
> tape drive perfectly. It compiled and installed without any problems at
all,
> and I run a Celeron.
>
> So, IMHO, it doesn't matter - if you are not going to do very specialised
> stuff, a Celeron is just as good as a Pentium?
>
> Right?
>
> Stefan Viljoen
> --
> Starwars Forever!!!
>
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://home.intekom.com/rylan/
>
>



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From: "John Mazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannon BJC printer
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 05:53:58 GMT

I have a BJC-250 that works just fine with Linux (Corel Linux 1.1 to be
specific).

Romek Pitera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Lake Park wrote:
>
> > G'day.
> >
> > My linux is Redhat 6.2`
> > It detects printer port as lp0
> > When I try to print anything, printer doesn't work.
> > On Windows 98, 2000 that is OK.
> >
> > The cannon bjc printer is not possible to print on Linux?
> > Does anybody have an idea? How?
>
> Have you checked printer list in Printing-HOWTO?
>
>
> R Pitera
> Direct your response to: r dot pitera at qmw dot ac dot uk
> Direct spam or unsolicited commercial e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>



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From: "John Mazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 06:06:12 GMT

None whatsoever.

shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am thinking of setting up Linux on an AMD machine.  Did you have any
> problem with the install or after the install?
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> Saty Desai wrote:
> >
> > Hi :
> >
> > I'm beta testing Linux on an AMD Athlon box with an Adaptec 131x/141x
> > SCSI adapter..
> >
> > I'd like to hear from others who have setup and loaded Linux (and the
> > version and vendor) on AMD boxes or any other hardware containing
> > Adaptec 131x/141x internal SCSI hard drive adapters ...
> >
> > I would really appreciate your help and thanks for your help in advance
> >
> >
> > Saty
> >
> >
> > --
> > Saty Desai
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/



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From: "John Mazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Old Cpu
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 06:08:22 GMT

You should be able to get Minux to run on it, but why?  I retired my 286
many many years ago and have been much happier since.  That's the processor
that even Intel called "brain dead".

Nemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8mpjfs$rh1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have put my hands on an old 286, I believe at 16 Mhz but I'm not sure
how
> much ram it has got. Is it possible for Linux to run on it? I have Red Hat
> 6.0 Mandrake 7.0 and Turbo linux on cd but this old computer doesn't
> obviously have a CD drive is there some special version of Linux that can
> run on this computer? Any and all suggestions are appreciated,  Nemo
>
>



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From: "Antony Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: IRQ under Linux
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:34:53 +0800

Dear all

My 3COM 3CCFE575CT cardbus can be recognized
by RH 6.1, however, the network is not running.

lspci  shows that the IRQ the card using is 11, and so does
the pcmcia controller.   lspci also reported that the IRQ 11is
also using by the SMI811 display card and ESS Maestro 2E
sound card.  I guessed it is the reason why my network is not
running.

Does anyone know how can I change the IRQ of the card ?

p.s. under Windows, the card is woking perfectly and does not
receive the same IRQ with other devices without altering the driver
settings.


Antony



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From: Staffan Emren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: scsi mystery
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 09:06:29 +0200

Esa Tikka wrote:
> 
> I have a strange problem with my Adaptec 2940U2W and an old IBM AS400
> drive 0664N1H (1.9GB wide). No other scsi devices are attached to my
> system (don't have the money yet <g>). The drive is plugged to the second
> last connector on the cable and an active terminator is in the last
> (looking from the adapter). There is no termination in the drive. Adapter
> termination has been set to automatic.
> Drive id is 2 and adapter id 7.

You're using an active terminator, but have you insured that it is
getting enough power? The host adapter tries to supply power on the
cable, but if the cable is not very short, a device close to the
terminator (i.e. your hard drive) have to provide this power. Often
UW-devices have a jumper called 'TP' or 'Terminating Power' or something
like that. Check this out and see if things improve.

Best regards

Staffan Emren

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From: "kc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: idebus speed
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 07:21:11 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, emiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> When I boot Linux, one of the messages says:
> 
> "ide: Assuming 40MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
> idebus=xx"

> Since the PCI bus runs at 66 mhz, shouldn't the above value also be
> 66Mhz?
> If so, how can I set this value at boot (I don't want to key in
> "idebus=66" at the lilo prompt everytime I boot).
> 

Just add 
        append="idebus=66" 
to your /etc/lilo.conf, and rerun /sbin/lilo

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From: Torsten Metzner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problems with a 30GB hard disk (under Suse6.4)
Date: 9 Aug 2000 07:34:51 GMT

Jon Larsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <8mor4k$50k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:   Torsten Metzner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: This just MIGHT be a consequence of something mentioned in the <a
: href=http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Ultra-DMA.html>Ultra-DMA mini-
: HOWTO</a>. Namely that enabling UDMA for certain drives on certain
: controllers with certain kernel versions will cause a system hangup.
: Try disabling UDMA with hdparm. It might or might not work. If I were
: you, I'd wait for someone else to reply to this and compare answers.

Hi John,
one day later I can say that this was exactly the problem. If I disable 
UDMA everything is fine. The disk is now only using DMA mode.
I can mount the partitions and work on it, also
cfdisk see the disk with the correct size. 

To get rid of the hdc: [PTBL] ... message including the wrong geometry
it was enough to boot the kernel with the kernel parameter 
hdc=<correct_geometry>. After this  e.g. also hdparm /dev/hdc
shows the right geometry. 

Thanx a lot for pushing me in the right direction,

ToM

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From: dog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 07:37:38 GMT

No, why would that be? Your processor won't be a problem whatsoever.
Sound card, video, etc, are other stories. 

shook wrote:
> 
> I am thinking of setting up Linux on an AMD machine.  Did you have any
> problem with the install or after the install?
> 
> Shook
> 
> Saty Desai wrote:
> >
> > Hi :
> >
> > I'm beta testing Linux on an AMD Athlon box with an Adaptec 131x/141x
> > SCSI adapter..
> >
> > I'd like to hear from others who have setup and loaded Linux (and the
> > version and vendor) on AMD boxes or any other hardware containing
> > Adaptec 131x/141x internal SCSI hard drive adapters ...
> >
> > I would really appreciate your help and thanks for your help in advance
> >
> >
> > Saty
> >
> >
> > --
> > Saty Desai
> >
> >
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

-- 
<Woof!>
Founder:
The Church of Transcendent Solipsism

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From: "michal l." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: modem doesn't want to work on old 486
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 07:53:09 GMT

Hi

I have got  problem with my modem. Now I have two computer ( Pentium and 486
( act as a server ). I wanted to put my modem in old 486 and set up a
firewall and proxy, but modem doesn't want to work.
With pentium everything was ok, because the mainboard has got 3 serial port
( 2f8, 3f8 and 2e8 ). I think that 2e8 is the key to solve this problem.
When I was first setting up my modem on pentium I had been trying a lot to
make it run. I found that modem works only on port 0x02e8. But on 486 there
are only two ports 2f8 i 3f8. The mainboard is too old, i think.

Do you have any ideas what to do ?



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Subject: Re: HELP! -  "mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device"
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Rørvik)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 07:59:31 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glitch) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>by reading subsequent posts by the author hdc will not work anymore as
>we have determined that hte drive is being recognized as a scsi device
>since it is a cdrw drive, therefore scd? is the only thing that will
>work

That would seem to have been established some time ago, yes.
-- 
Kenneth Rørvik          91841353/22718452
Steenstrupsgate 5 B     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0554 OSLO               home.no.net/stasis

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Subject: Re: Why is my harddisk so slow?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Rørvik)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 08:06:04 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (emiel) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>But shouldn't udma/66 give a throughput of 66 MB/s (in theory) ?

That figure only relates to theoreticl burst rates.

>When I do "hdparm -t" I get about 13 MB/s, which doesn't even come close
>to 66MB/s ! But when i do "hdparm -T" I get about 60 MB/s, which looks
>great, but since this involves cache readings it isn't really a fair
>test.

Nope :) Linux caches much more than the hard drive can anyway. Actually, 
13MB/s is a fair figure. On my K6-2/550 with hot rod 66 and 5400rpm hard 
drive, I can now get 21,5MB/s with the 2.4.0-test5 kernel. Note that I also 
got an increase from 17 to 21,5 when switching from a K6-2 400...

>My system is a p3-600 with 20gb maxtor drive (5400 rpm) running Suse
>6.4, and I use "hdparm -c1 -u1 -d1 -X66 -k1".

Actually, to turn on UDMA66, you need to use -X68, I think (64+UDMA mode). 
Correct me if I'm wrong here. Also, try using -m16 and -c3. Plus, get the 
newest version of hdparm. Some older versions reported the wrong values.
-- 
Kenneth Rørvik          91841353/22718452
Steenstrupsgate 5 B     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0554 OSLO               home.no.net/stasis

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From: sideband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hard Drive Errors
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 04:52:39 -0400

If he connects hdb to the other bus, it will become hdc and he'll have to
change his fstab first, being that it's his "main" drive...

Try replacing the cable first... and/or make sure the cables are firmly
plugged in to where they're supposed to be... If that doesn't fix it, check
the power cables for the drives as well.. dirty contacts (i.e. resistance, and
therefore lower voltage and current) on the power cables to a drive can cause
this too.

If that doesn't fix it, either your motherboard controller is bad (replace the
motherboard) or one of the drives is dying... though I've never encountered
errors from two IDE drives on the same bus, even when the bus master drive is
the one going bad...

Hope this helps.

-SSB

"B. Joshua Rosen" wrote:

> If both drives are on the same IDE bus then it certainly would be
> possible for the bad one to interfere with the good one, a problem with
> the ide controller could also cause a problem. Try connecting hdb to the
> other ide bus and see what happens.
>
> Nicholas Wolverson wrote:
> >
> > Recently (last night, actually) my hard disk started spinning up and
> > down and not doing much. This caused everything to go *really* slowly,
> > and some things to crash, so I had a look at my logs. These error
> > messages appeard - note that I've actually got two hard drives,
> > configured as hda and hdb. hdb is my main drive, and the one most of the
> > errors seem to come from. The first one is repeated most often; it
> > happened many times while I was trying to write this.
> >
> > hdb: status timeout: status=0x90 { Busy }
> > hdb: drive not ready for command
> > ide0: reset: success
> > ##
> > hdb: irq timeout: status=0x90 { Busy }
> > ide0: reset: success
> > ##
> > hdb: irq timeout: status=0x90 { Busy }
> > end_request: I/O error, dev 03:45 (hdb), sector 376870
> > ##
> > hdb: status error: status=0x7e { DriveReady DeviceFault SeekComplete
> > DataRequest CorrectedError Index }
> > hdb: drive not ready for command
> > ide0: reset: success
> > ##
> > And on the other one:
> > Aug  8 05:17:19 localhost kernel: hda: status error: status=0x10 {
> > SeekComplete
> > }
> > Aug  8 05:17:19 localhost kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
> >
> > I'm unsure as to whether this is a hardware problem, or something
> > software related, or what. I'm suspicious as to why both HD's show
> > errors. I thought somebody might be able to enlighten me as to what's
> > happening.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.


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From: Jarek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux and i810
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 08:53:18 GMT

See www.osfaq.com/vol/linux_i810.htm
I hope it helps

Jarek

In article <01bffe06$b3734c80$4364a8c0@office1>,
  " Manoj P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My i810 chipset(integrated video and audio) system is able to run X
at very
> low resolutions
> and 8 bit color.Xconfigurator says it has detected i810 but on typing
> startx,the above problem
>  persists.As I am a newbie to linux,could anybody point me to any
solutions
> or patches?
>
> Thanking you in advance,
> -manoj
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: sideband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modem doesn't want to work on old 486
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 05:07:32 -0400

2f8 is com1
2f8 is com2
2e8 is com3
(in DOS)

Unless the modem is internal (inside the computer), it won't care what port you
plug the serial cable into.

If the modem is internal, and is set up for com3 (in DOS, which is /dev/ttyS2 in
Linux) on the jumpers and/or firmware, you'll have to use the setserial command
(man setserial) to "turn on" the COM port on the card. Once this is done, it
will work fine...unless it's a winmodem, in which case it's junk and it won't
work.

Hope this helps.

-SSB


"michal l." wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have got  problem with my modem. Now I have two computer ( Pentium and 486
> ( act as a server ). I wanted to put my modem in old 486 and set up a
> firewall and proxy, but modem doesn't want to work.
> With pentium everything was ok, because the mainboard has got 3 serial port
> ( 2f8, 3f8 and 2e8 ). I think that 2e8 is the key to solve this problem.
> When I was first setting up my modem on pentium I had been trying a lot to
> make it run. I found that modem works only on port 0x02e8. But on 486 there
> are only two ports 2f8 i 3f8. The mainboard is too old, i think.
>
> Do you have any ideas what to do ?


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