Linux-Hardware Digest #391, Volume #14           Fri, 23 Feb 01 23:13:06 EST

Contents:
  Re: SanDisk Compact Flash USB Reader (SDDR-31): WHICH DEVICE? (Darren Enns)
  Re: Does RH 7.o support USB? Need it for HP scanner (Gary I Kahn)
  Re: DVD decoder: software vs. hardware (Calvin N.)
  Re: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 9300, which is an IDE device, and  cdrecord.  
ide-scsi isn't working properly? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Which CD-RW drive for Linux ? (Dances With Crows)
  Thanks, Fellas ("Tim Little")
  Asus a7m266 support (Robert Bognar)
  Init String & 56K USR Sportster ("Ken Rambler")
  Re: NetGear FA310TX (David Efflandt)
  OnStream Echo DI30 15/30 IDE tape drive any good with Linux ? (Sean Akers)
  Re: Init String & 56K USR Sportster (Dances With Crows)
  Re: How-to- Linux on Unix?? (Mark Bratcher)
  Re: OnStream Echo DI30 15/30 IDE tape drive any good with Linux ? (Matthew Garrett)

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From: Darren Enns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SanDisk Compact Flash USB Reader (SDDR-31): WHICH DEVICE?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 00:34:40 GMT

Thanks for offering advise!

Actually, with the help of another responder, who showed me what
his kernel settings looked like for SCSI, I managed to get this
working with '/dev/sda1' without even using 'vfat' (though I will
try that to see what difference it makes).

What I think the essential difference was that I was missing is
that I had NOT compiled 'SCSI drive support' -- thinking that I had
no true SCSI devices and definitely not a SCSI 'drive'!  

Dare

L Tam wrote:
> 
> I think you should mount /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda. Also, the file
> system is vfat. So:
> 
> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 (your mount point)
> 
> Have you loaded the module usb-storage before you tried to mount the
> compact flash?
> 
> Good luck
> 
> L Tam
> 
>  Enns wrote:
> 
> > Hello!
> >
> > I upgraded my kernel to 2.4.1 to get USB support.  I can now use the
> > 'photopc' program to talk to my Nikon 880 USB camera on the USB
> > interface!
> >
> > I also bought a Sandisk Compactflash USB reader device -- which is
> > supported in Linux -- and everything 'looks good' in all the places
> > I look for messages, but when I make an effort to mount /dev/sda
> > I get the message:
> >
> > mount: /dev/sda has wrong major or minor number
> >
> > I have no idea what I may be doing wrong.  Here is a small amount of
> > messages that show that things should be OK:
> >
> > hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/2, assigned device number 2
> > usb.c: kmalloc IF c688b4c0, numif 1
> > usb.c: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=3, SerialNumber=2
> > usb.c: USB device number 2 default language ID 0x409
> > Manufacturer: SanDisk Corporation
> > Product: ImageMate CompactFlash USB
> > SerialNumber: 000000000002
> >
> > usb-storage: *** thread sleeping.
> >   Vendor: SanDisk   Model: ImageMate II      Rev: 1.30
> >   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision:
> > 02
> >
> > Attached devices:
> > Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
> >   Vendor: HP       Model: CD-Writer+ 8100  Rev: 1.0g
> >   Type:   CD-ROM                           ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> > Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
> >   Vendor: SanDisk  Model: ImageMate II     Rev: 1.30
> >   Type:   Direct-Access                    ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> >
> >    Host scsi1: usb-storage
> >        Vendor: SanDisk Corporation
> >       Product: ImageMate CompactFlash USB
> > Serial Number: None
> >      Protocol: Transparent SCSI
> >     Transport: Bulk
> >          GUID: 078100020000000000000000
> >
> > Currently, I have the following in my /etc/fstab file for this
> > device:
> >
> > none                    /proc/bus/usb           usbdevfs defaults 0
> > 0
> >
> > This looks strange to me.  I image that instead of 'none' I
> > should have a valid device name, but every one of the '/dev/sda'
> > devices don't seem to work.
> >
> > I am so close to success I can almost taste it!
> >
> > Any help?
> >
> > Dare
> >
> > --
> > Darren Enns
> > EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > HTTP:  members.home.net/dmenns

-- 
Darren Enns
EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP:  members.home.net/dmenns

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From: Gary I Kahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does RH 7.o support USB? Need it for HP scanner
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:45:22 -0500

Federico Bravo wrote:

> I have a HP ScanJet 3400C with USB interface. I would like to try and
> use it with SANE but I get a 'no device available' kind-of message. Is
> that maybe because kernel 2.2.16-22 doesn' actually support USB? Any
> comment on this ( and on install an USB scanner onto Linux ) will be
> very appreciated.
> I've looked around a bit and it seems to me there's very little
> information around about scanners for Linux. Please help.
> Thank you. Federico.
> 

Based on my scanner research (which you can easily verify at the SANE home 
website listed in the 'sane' docs), I don't think that you'll get the HP 
ScanJet 3400C running under linux right now.   Right now, only the 
following HP USB scanners are supported:  4100, 5200, and 6300.  There's a 
link to a USB-specific page (from the SANE website) which provides this 
information.

In spite of HP's statements of it's support for linux, it has continued to 
design and release products which are incompatible with linux.  Or, at the 
least, it has continued to withhold the documentation which would allow 
linux users to develop drivers for the products.

Sorry.

Gary

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From: Calvin N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD decoder: software vs. hardware
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:30:05 -0000


> It rather depends on what you are doing. Multimedia in 
> general tends to be CPU intensive. Otherwise, products
> such as the Hollywood+ would never had any market to
> begin with.
> 
> As far as systems being IO bound: this varies depending
> on the task and the hardware in question. OTOH, a dedicated
> decoder card will only ever have use only.


Hmm... please clarify for me what point you are trying to get across.


> >Moreover, if $100 Canadian is such a huge deal to you, what are you 
doing 
> >playing with DVDs?
> 
> Exploiting the market for used media perhaps...
> 
> Renting...


Since CPU speed is so valuable to you, shouldn't that $100 or more you 
spent on the DVD-ROM (and perhaps the cost of the used and rented media) 
have been spent on your CPU?


> >I'm concerned with frame quality as well as frame rate.  I got full 
frame 
> >rates with my old PII 350.
> 
> You'll have to quantify things a little bit better.


Not sure what you want me to "quantify".


> >Oh, the idea behind that "if you're serious about watching DVDs" quote 
of 
> >mine didn't originate from me.  It came from Maximum PC...
> 
> They aren't the best people to be quoting in a Linux forum.


Care to explain how the PC vs. Linux issue is relevant?  Your claim simply 
was that "a dinky 19-inch monitor isn't going to cut it".  The Maximum PC 
quote that I provided affirms the precise opposite.


> >...as well as other well-known publications such as PC Gamer.
> 
> Another GEM.


Got that right.  PC Gamer has always recommended hardware decoding over 
software decoding, and they happen to be a leading voice in the industry 
whose reviews millions of people pay money to read.  You'll excuse me if I 
take their word over yours?


> C't or Home Theatre Magazine would be more compelling references.
> 
> Better yet would be a Linux Journal review.


If the Sigma Designs card is supported by Linux, it's a sure bet that 
Linux Review would give it superb marks, since everyone else has:

http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products/hollywood_plus_awards.htm


> (Also, I didn't find any review like one that you describe
>  by searching for 'realmagic' in MaximiumPC's review database.
>  What reviews I did find were fairly indifferent on the subject
>  of software versus hardware decode if it even mentioned any
>  sort of preference at all.)


Oh, is that so?  Well, there are easier ways to find Maximum PC's 
comments.  For example, these quotes...

"This is by far the best DVD decoder we’ve seen, and we can’t recommend it
highly enough."

"This board is worth every penny and you’ll be happy to own it."

... you can find them right here:

http://www.hival.com/highend/Product_Sheets/DVD/real.htm

--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 9300, which is an IDE device, and  
cdrecord.  ide-scsi isn't working properly?
Date: 24 Feb 2001 01:55:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:22:32 -0800, Jeff Silverman staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>I have an HP CD-Writer plus 9300, which is an IDE device, and I want to
>record CDs with it, using cdrecord.
>So I built a new 2.2.17 kernel with ide-scsi, sg, sr, and st modules.
>The drive works fine as a CD player, but cdrecord can't seem to find it.
>
>cowiche!root 438# mount /dev/hdc /mnt/t
>mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
>cowiche!root 439# ls /mnt/t
[snip]

The IDE CD-ROM driver has grabbed hold of your CD-RW.  If you can mount
your CD-RW via /dev/hdc, then SCSI emulation is not being used.  Get rid
of the IDE CD-ROM driver entirely; you don't need it and it will only
get in your way.

<heresy>I think Linux should go the 'Doze route and treat IDE CD-ROMs as
SCSI devices, using the already established ide-scsi module.  It'd make 
these sorts of problems disappear.</heresy>

>cowiche!root 444# /sbin/lsmod
>Module                  Size  Used by
>st                     25160   0  (unused)
>sg                     12628   0  (unused)
>sr_mod                 16144   0  (unused)
>ide-scsi                7400   0

Is SCSI support a module?  "modprobe scsi" if it is.

>image=/boot/vmlinuz
>        label=linux
>        read-only
>        root=/dev/hda5
>        append="hdc=ide-scsi"

Did you boot this image, or the other one?  The IDE CD-ROM driver should
*not* be able to grab hold of /dec/hdc with this kernel command line.
What's "cat /proc/cmdline" tell you?

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Which CD-RW drive for Linux ?
Date: 24 Feb 2001 01:55:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:43:31 +0100, Eggert Ehmke staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>If I want to burn audio and data cd's, which devices work ok ? I have a
>PIII 860 MHz box running SuSE 7.0 and Win ME.

Almost anything will work if it's IDE or SCSI.  Plextor drives are
widely considered to be the best, but I've had excellent luck with a
$129 US Cendyne IDE 6x4x32 unit.  SCSI is often better than IDE.  Don't
get anything parport.  USB things may or may not work, and the Que USB
CD-RW (popular brand) is a bloody coaster factory, even using
"supported" drivers on a "supported" OS.

The magic words for IDE are "MMC-3 compliant" but most salesdroids don't
know what that means or why it's useful, and it's hardly ever on the
package.  98% of the IDE CD-RWs available these days are, though.  The
cdrecord homepage has a list of working/non-working drives, but it
doesn't get updated often.  HTH,

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: "Tim Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Thanks, Fellas
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:04:42 GMT

I see that support for Linux is alive and well on USENET. Thanks much for
the tips, I'll be working my way through them this weekend.

Regards,
TL


In article <0qll6.283414$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tim Little"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> PROBLEM:  System lockups requiring hard shutdown after accessing a SCSI
> device.
>

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Subject: Asus a7m266 support
From: Robert Bognar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:34:16 -0500

is the new asus a7m266 mb supported under linux? it uses ddr ram, amd 760
chipset.  has anyone used one yet?


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From: "Ken Rambler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,de.alt.comm.mgetty,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Init String & 56K USR Sportster
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:03:25 GMT

I'm using a US Robotics Sportster 5686 modem to dial into my RH 7.0 Linux
box. I can connect at speeds from 26400 to 31200. Has anyone had luck with
faster connect speeds?

I'm thinking the init string may be the problem. This is the mgetty
configuration that sets up the modem.

# For US Robotics Sportster 5686 with speaker off
port ttyS1
speed 57600
switchbd 57600
init-chat "" ATZ OK AT&F1M0E1Q0S0=0 OK
answer-chat "" ATA CONNECT \c \r

Sugegestions?

Thanks,
Ken



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: NetGear FA310TX
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:11:10 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:08:48 GMT, Tim Lyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I was wondering if anyone has successfully install a NetGear FA310TX NIC on a
>computer running Redhat 7.0 with kernel 2.2.16?  If so, could you please tell me
>how as I'm having difficulties.

In Mandrake 7.0 with generic kernel 2.2.17 I have had better luck using
old_tulip instead of tulip module.  The new tulip module did not seem to
do anything until it was accessed from the other end.  The old_tulip just
'occasionally' has a problem accessing a box that was shut down and later
rebooted until that box contacts the FA310TX.  I just have a crossover
cable to a laptop (FA510C).

>When I type 'lsmod' the tulip module is not on the list until I load it.  But it
>isn't loaded when I boot up Redhat.
>When I use netconf to setup the NIC, if I specify an IRQ or an I/O port, both of
>which are optional I get an error message saying something about insmod and the
>tulip.o (the driver for this particular card) module.  However, if I don't
>specify either an IRQ or I/O port, I get an IP initialisation failure.
>In either case, I can't access the internet.

It is a PCI card, so you don't need to set irq or port.  However, I had a
problem when it tried to use the same IRQ (10) as my ISA soundcard.  I
simply changed the soundcard IRQ to something else.
Check 'cat /proc/interrupts' and then 'tail -f /var/log/messages' while
loading the tulip (or old_tulip) module.

It is possible that the problem is that you are not properly assigning an
IP to it.  Did you give it a static IP, or do you need to get a DHCP IP
with something like dhcpcd or pump (can't help you with that)?

>Fortunately (for me), I have not disposed of Windoze which is what's
>allowing me to write the post.


-- 
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http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
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From: Sean Akers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: OnStream Echo DI30 15/30 IDE tape drive any good with Linux ?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:09:07 +0000

Anyone successfully using the OnStream DI30 15/30Gb Internal IDE tape drive
successfully with Linux. 

I'm currently using SuSE 6.4 with 2.2.14 kernel and intend to use afio for my
backups.

Cheers, 

Sean. 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Init String & 56K USR Sportster
Date: 24 Feb 2001 03:21:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[NGs trimmed.]
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:03:25 GMT, Ken Rambler staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>I'm using a US Robotics Sportster 5686 modem to dial into my RH 7.0
>Linux box. I can connect at speeds from 26400 to 31200. Has anyone had
>luck with faster connect speeds?
>
>I'm thinking the init string may be the problem. This is the mgetty
>configuration that sets up the modem.
>
># For US Robotics Sportster 5686 with speaker off
>port ttyS1
>speed 57600
>switchbd 57600
>init-chat "" ATZ OK AT&F1M0E1Q0S0=0 OK
>answer-chat "" ATA CONNECT \c \r

Over a standard telephone line with standard modems on both ends, the
maximum speed you can achieve is 33.6 Kbps.  I wrote up a small
explanation a month or so back; search Deja/Google for "Shannon's Law"
and my name, or just search Google for "Shannon's Law" and you will find
plenty of info on why "56K" isn't and how the telcos manage to get
around that *in one direction only*.  Sorry....

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How-to- Linux on Unix??
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:23:33 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Windgassen wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Mark Bratcher wrote:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Windgassen wrote:
>>>On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Mun Sing wrote:
>>>
>>>Unix and linux are operating systems that run on a hardware platform, i.e.
>>>NOT on another operating system.
>>>
>>>For example:
>>>- Linux can run on Intel machines (x86)
>>>- Windows can run on intel machines too
>>
>>And Windows can run on Linux. (eg, Lin4win) :-)
>>And Windows 3.11 can run on OS/2.
>
>That's not the whole truth (in my opinion:-): these are environments within
>Linux and OS/2 that allow you to run Windows executables, i.e. _individual_
>programs. This is pretty different from running a whole operating system, e.g.
>including task, memory and filesystem management.
>And the OP was asking how to run Linux, that is not an individual app, on a Unix
>system.
>

You're right about the Windows on Linux.
Windows 3.11 on OS/2 though... hard to tell, you may be right there too.
I ran OS/2 Warp when it first came out and I could run several program managers
at once, or pop over to an entire full screen Windows, all while OS/2 was running.
Sure does a great job fooling the user into believing Windows is really
running there.

Then one I forgot to add: a product called "VxWin" that runs Windows NT
as an idle task under VxWorks.

-- 
Mark Bratcher
To reply direct, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
===============================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!

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From: Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: OnStream Echo DI30 15/30 IDE tape drive any good with Linux ?
Date: 24 Feb 2001 04:02:51 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sean Akers wrote:
>Anyone successfully using the OnStream DI30 15/30Gb Internal IDE tape drive
>successfully with Linux. 

We are, but make sure you use the ide-scsi emulation and download the
drivers for the SCSI version. Later versions of 2.2 include support for
the IDE version, but we were completely unable to get anywhere without
generating huge numbers of i/o errors - using the SCSI drivers has worked
without problem.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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