A rabbi was walking home from the Temple and saw one of his good friends,
a pious and learned man who could usually beat the rabbi in an argument.
The rabbi started walking faster so that he could catch up to his friend
when he was horrified to see his friend go into a Chinese restaurant (not
a kosher one).
Standing at the door he observed his friend talking to a waiter and
gesturing at a menu. A short time later, the waiter reappeared carrying a
platter full of spare ribs, shrimp in lobster sauce, crab rangoon and
other treif (non kosher food) that the rabbi could not bear to think about
them.
As his friend picked up the chopsticks and began to eat this food, the
rabbi burst into the restaurant and reproached his friend for he could
take it no longer.
"Morris, what is this you are doing? I saw you come into this restaurant,
order this filth and now you are eating it in violation of everything we
are taught about the dietary laws and with an apparent enjoyment that does
not befit your pious reputation!"
Morris replied, "Rabbi, did you see me enter this restaurant? (rabbi nods
yes).
Did you see me order this meal? (again he nods yes).
Did you see the waiter bring me this food? (again he nods yes).
And did you see me eat it? (nods yes).
Then, rabbi, I don't see the problem here. The entire thing was done under
rabbinical supervision!"

And "Marit Eyen" afaik, is again a "siag". But again, I pointed out two
things (and I'm not a rabbi, but some of the things I do is to learn
Halacha, and I do know rabbi to ask him).

Orr Dunkelman,
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"Logic is in the eye of the logician"   -Gloria Steinem

On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Gavrie Philipson wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Orr Dunkelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 1:28 PM
> Subject: Kosher vs. Non-Kosher (was Re: Organizing a Linux Dinner)
> 
> 
> > Well, After reading the thread about the linux dinner, I might point out
> > several points which will help to choose resturant:
> >
> > A. Kosher-keepers can always eat vegtables. I know you want the plate to
> > be kosher as well, but you are advised to open the Halacha and find out
> > that this is "Siag" that was added only in the recent years (do you really
> > think that in the second house time, when people were poor, they held two
> > plates sets?).
> 
> Well, IANAR (I'm not a Rabbi). Are you one? However, the mere deed of
> sitting and eating in a non-kosher restaurant is Halachically forbidden,
> because of something called "Mar'it Ayin": If someone sees an observant Jew
> eating in a non-kosher place, he may think that the place is kosher and eat
> there too. Therefore, your point is moot.
> 
> Gavrie.
> 


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