Ok, I'm probably shooting myself in the leg here :-) as when my ISP gets
flooded with 256k connections someone there is bound to slap on a bandwidth
limitation..
So - a plead and a few words of caution.
I think that Buisnesses should pay for connectivity like buisnesses, while
users should get cheap connectivity - regardless of badnwidth. I just feel
that that is the "Right Thing(tm)". if you'll pressure me, I might say
something about a buisness getting tax reductions for connectivity fees
while a home user doesn't - but I don't know any tax laws, so this may be a
lame excuse :-)
So I think that buisnesses shouldn't take advantage of cheap priceses
offered for home users, and hence drive the cost up for all home users - a
buisness with a LAN generate much more traffic on the same connection, then
the average home user, and so drives costs higher for ISP for a "home user
type" account. a reasonable ISP that want to stay alive can only respond by
raising connectvity fees for all users, especially home users.
So - please... if you're buying an internet pipe for your company - go with
the buisness offers you get from ISPs - I know that most ISPs (if not all -
haven't talked to all ISPs in Israel) will offer you a 256k ISDN with a
router and will throw in extra stuff for free - static IPs, and things you
don't need - like domain registeration and web hosting, for a reasonable
cost.
I believe that companies, even small ones, connecting on a 'home user' type
accounts will be bad for home users on the long run, so please spare us.
thanks
Now a bit about my connection : my ISP is Barak on-line. I'm not sure under
which account type I fall, but I don't think that there's any limitation of
bandwidth on any type of account - last time I talked with a Barak sales
person they told me they charge the same whatever type of connection you use
: analog, ISDN or whatever (not sure about ADSL - that was the pre-ADSL
era).
My current account get charged with about $20 a month - the same that
Netvision charge for a single ISDN channel (remember - no bandwidth
limitation :-).
There's no static IP - I use dyndns, but I'm not worried, because with the
Fritz! my connection is (almost) never down. the only problem is my second
adapter which sucks big time - sometimes when I take it up it hangs the
entire connection, and I'm forced to hang up the main channel.
Barak will sell you a static IP, for another $100 or so (I think it's $115),
with a router and all kinds of other stuff that I don't need (compare that
to $10-$20 for a static IP from BezeqInt), thereby multiplying my internet
costs by 6 or 7 for an administrative configuration change to the radius
server.
I think that stinks.
Oded
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Eli Marmor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Oded Arbel wrote:
>
> > Hi list.
> >
> > I've just found the problem with my ISDN connection - my Fritz! card is
> > faulty.
> > Its pitty that I had to install Win2k to find that out (can't they
> > have normal error reporting in hisax ?), but now I'm back to full speed
> > (that is 256kbps :-), and thanks to all the people who tried to help - I
> > appreciate it.
>
> Maybe off-topic: Who is your ISP?
> Is there any ISP these days that provides 256Kbps ISDN for a rational
> price? (i.e. unlike Netvision, for example, which charges $300 monthly
> for dual ISDN, or Internet Zahav, which claims that this is "unreliable"
> (I would respect them if they said the truth, that it is not economical
> for them, or not rentabile)).
>
> Does such a service include static IPs? How many?
> And if not, can static IPs be purchased for extra monthly cost? How
> much?
>
> Some background:
>
> Currently, we have one weak line of Frame-Relay, and I want to replace
> it by ADSL for incoming traffic (serving the desktops and the clients),
> and dual ISDN (256Kbps) for outgoing traffic (i.e. servers, or in other
> words - the DMZ). Both of the connections, together, are going to cost
> less than the current connection, but with much wider bandwidth.
>
> I want to connect these two LANs by a firewall/router, so inter-
> connections between the clients and the servers will not have to be
> served through the ISP(s), and no VPN will be needed. Just for my
> curiosity: Does this plan make sense?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> --
> Eli Marmor
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> Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd.
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