I can give some summary about my "quest" for the official distribution in Israel SuSE .
I tried to get SuSE latest version (7.3) from all sources -- and did not succeed : PF1 stopped to import it and the same situation with another company from Raanana which SuSE site listed as their second Israeli supplier. Amazon is supplying it in U.S. only (don't know the cause)-- and the same situation was encountered after some non-extensive checkings on other US sw. selling sites . BTW- not sure, but SuSE site sells it for 78 US $ "only"-- not 130. I totaly agree with Nadav-Har'El opinion about this distribution first class quality-- I used 6.1 for a long time (bought on BUG on September 1999)-- but on work we could not obtain SuSE 7.3 (we needed it because we thought that 2.4.15) would give us some Posix IPC features. SuSE site mentions that they sell only in E.U. -- very curious behaviour... We ended up on RH7.1 (2.4.10 & updated afterwards to 2.4.15). It is an unfortunate situation that such a succesfull distribution can not be easily obtained around here-- I mean their all goodies, i.e. 2300 packages (and manuals). Edy Daniel Feiglin wrote: > Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > PF1/REL imported them last time I checked (by phone). I saw it also once > > in a shop in JM (an old version, of course). > > But they stopped. You can see V7.1 on their site. > > > > > And, they actually do have an excellend Evaluation CD (nobody else has > > s.th. like this !): It boots a live filesystem from CD with all bells and > > whistles installed. Including proper setup and it saves all the data + > > your home dir on the local disk (vfat partition needed). > > > > I think this is a very good solution for the evaluation problem and people > > who want to suck from this a normal installation can just boot it and copy > > it over to their hard disk (and do normal RPM installs afterwards). > > > > Schlomo > > > > PS: Download it from ftp://schapiro.org > > > > > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > > > >>On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Hi, > >>> > >>>I also tried to talk to them (and I speak German !) to no avail. I told > >>>them that their local importers are doing them a dis-service. But they > >>>told me that they have long-running contracts and that's it. > >>> > >>Who is their local importer? > >> > >>Last time I looked at their site, there was a link to an Israeli reseller. > >>The site of the Israeli reseller had no mention of SuSE (only of > >>Mandrake, if you bothered digging deep enough into the site). > >> > >>Do you see any SuSE in any store? Do you see any Redhat or Mandrake? > >> > >> > >>>I don't think that the problem is political, though. I see two major > >>>problems: > >>>1) Israel is very RedHat centric (we are soooo American !), therefore > >>>there are not so many (almost NIL) people who would buy SuSE > >>> > >>SuSE sells pretty well in the US. Mandrake (originally french) is also > >>doing well. Maybe some people here have problems with German products (no > >>flames please, I'm only stating a fact), however I don't think that this > >>is reflected in the sales of FolksWagen. > >> > >> > >>>2) SuSE doesn't bother to have importers in many countries. They are just > >>>open for importers to make business with them. I imagine that the > >>>Situation in Cyprus or Poland is not much better than here. It's just our > >>>bad luck that we got an "Israeli" SuSE importer. > >>> > >>Hmm... > >> > >> > >>>Also, note that $130 seems pretty close to the SuSE price if you would > >>>order from them directly (from Germany). > >>> > >>>I once ordered a package directly from them for my work and it > >>>was all very well, except the 60 DM shipping cost. > >>> > >>130$? > >> > >>If they don't start handing out evaluation CDs, (almost) no-one in Israel > >>will bother with that. > >> > >> > >> > > > > Other matters: At various times I've seen SuSE even in BUG! > > Why SuSE: I started out with Redhat in 5.1-2 days. 6.0 was a disaster. PF1 > offered me SuSE 6.1 for peanuts, at Computax, and in terms of distro quality and > scope I never looked back. I must confess that 7.1 was not brilliant, and I > finished up with what in now SuSE 7.1 and a half - d/l'd kernel 2.4.9 and got > KDE 2.2.1 from a CD burning outfit in the US (also cost peanuts). > > SuSE refused to supply me the 7.2 upgrade: They referred me to their UK dealer > who said that he could only supply from South Africa. Stuff that. About 7.3: > There are some rather nasty reviews floating around (LinuxPlanet) for anyone > trying to upgrade using the graphics interface (yast2). If anyone is interested, > I have them in a 256Kb tarball. > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
