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ביום שני, 28 באוקטובר 2002, 08:00, Tzahi Fadida כתב על 'RE: big question: FW-1 
VS. Linux security tools':
> Netfilter is not yet there because of the gui and tools fw-1 has and
> linux don't.

Hetz specificly asked not to factor the GUI and tools.

> and by tools, i don't mean a software that some kids wrote, 

Hey - don't degrade kids who right software - some of the best software in the 
world was written by kids.

> i mean tools
> that can interact with the firewall and with the rules, like virus
> scanning, vpn, and ids, etc.. checkpoint has standards for these, and
> linux don't.

Standards ? as in - we set the rules, you follow ? yes- Linux has those. with 
NetFilter you can setup rules to filter packets into a userland target which 
can do just about anything you want. the fact that no commercially available 
software has been written to take advantage of it (at least AFAIK), does not 
mean that the firewall itself is not good. FW-1 does not have those tools 
built in either - you need to buy them externally. so with NetFilter : it has 
the capabilities, now go write your external tools.

> In addition there are products from checkpoint that are hardware based
> and can surely outperform linux on a x86 computer any day.

Let me guess what OS is running those hardware based products... hmm.. windows 
? naa. probably linux.
You can embed linux too, and there are several companies that offer epliances 
that run linux as a firewall.

What you are basicly saying it - Linux is not ready to take on FW-1 because no 
commercial company has yet built firewalls suites (including everything) 
based on NetFilter. well shucks - you know what ? you can count the companies 
that offer firewall suite comparable to Checkpoint's on one hand and you'd 
still be able to hold a fork. that's why Checkpoint are market leaders.

you can do with NetFilter whatever you do with FW-1, but it takes time to get 
it right.

- -- 
Oded
 
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