On 2002/10/28 10:30, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

> no true "state" is kept (for example - no proper tracking of
> connection's state, no ability to limit packets based on
> packets seen so far on the same connection)

Regarding this specific feature, which you listed as missing from
netfilter: the current version of iptables (with the bundled kernel
patches) supports access to all conntrack fields from iptables rules.,
and also keeps 32 bits of general-purpose state per connection (a
"connection mark"). This is definitely an improvement in the expressive
power of iptables.

In case anyone's interested: the relevant iptables patch-o-matic patches
are {oldnat,extra}/CONNMARK and submitted/conntrack.

This does not significantly detract from your essential argument about
iptables vs. FW-1, of course.

  Eran




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