The skype link you gave me, is good. Found a lot of interesting things there.
I"ll check more about QoS of voip. 39% is not enough. That's from a
web page that checks voip quality.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Geoff Shang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sara fink wrote:
>
>> Someone knows if skype calls placed between 2 people in Israel, passes
>> via skype server in europe?
>
> The short answer is not necessarily.
>
> 1.  Skype calls do not go through a central server.  A central server is
> used to keep track of people's status etc.
>
> 2.  If both ends of the call can make direct connections to each other
> without going through NAT (i.e. if incoming connections can be made on a
> particular port which I believe is picked at install time), the call is made
> directly between both parties without being routed through any other hosts.
>
> 3.  If it is not possible to make a direct connection between both parties,
> a third host is used to relay traffic back and forth.
>
> Note that I'm not an expert on Skype and my understanding is mainly based on
> my recollections of the contents of
> http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~salman/publications/skype1_4.pdf which is
> admittedly a bit old now and which I read something like a year ago.  You
> can find a whole lot more of this kind of thing, some of it newer, at
> http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~salman/skype/
>
>> Is there a standard for voip? What I mean is if there are limits, for
>> download, upload,  quality of service that produces a reliable
>> conversation?
>
> Most of the time when people use the term "voip" nowadays, they are refering
> to telephone-quality speech, generally using SIP, IAX2 or H323 at 8kHz
> sampling.  An uncompressed call using ULAW or ALAW encoding (which is what
> is used natively on US and European phone systems respectively) will need
> 64kbps for the audio plus overhead for the protocol.  Codecs like Speex
> (open) and G729 (patented) however attempt to carry such signals at only
> 8kbps, and largely succeed.  I've run G729 calls over a dialup connection,
> though I don't recommend it.
>
> QOS is important.   I don't know much about it myself, but I do know that if
> you have the right QOS settings, you can happily do other stuff on your
> connection and your voip trafic will get through quite nicely.  If not, even
> moderate network activity can be enough to scramble it.
>
> Wish I could be of more help.
>
> Geoff.
>
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