I think you have to make a distinction between older MS software (such as
XP) and newer ones (such as 7). For example you defenitely don't run as
administrator in Windows 7, and you've got a built-in sudo like system.
I, like some people who replied, had bad experience managing Windows
machines, and it was usually viruses. However in recent versions I noticed
that even at the hands of the inexperienced users, and without any virus
scanner, the system stays relatively clean.

The point about Windows complexity and background compatability is true and
taken. It is against security, and maybe it tips the balance against MS and
Windows related products security-wise.

The other remark which I highly disagree is that there's no need to convince
me. I'm discussing here in order to be convinced, and I'm usually glad when
someone enlightens me.

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Micha Feigin <mi...@post.tau.ac.il> wrote:

> On Tue, 11 May 2010 04:08:39 -0700
> Elazar Leibovich <elaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Not at all!
> > Google for "Microsoft SDL", it was not always the case, but nowadays they
> > have excellent security awareness.
> > For example, see evidence for the change here:
> >
> http://blogs.msdn.com/david_leblanc/archive/2010/04/16/don-t-use-office-rc4-encryption-really-just-don-t-do-it.aspx
> >
>
> Lets start with the problem that Microsoft encourages all users to be set
> as
> administrators by default. It's almost impossible to be a regular user
> usually
> and just switch momentary to administrator for small administration tasks
> ...
>
> Managing simple folder / file permissions is also a difficult task (doing
> complex permissions is complex on unix as well though)
>
> > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Gilboa Davara <gilb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 22:10 +0300, Elazar Leibovich wrote:
> > >
> > > > For example, Microsoft is now known for excellent security review
> > > > practices. Whichever MS software I choose, I can rest assured that it
> > > > will be relatively on the high end of security.
> > >
> > > Hidden sarcasm?
> > >
> > > - Gilboa
> > >
> > >
> > >
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