---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mordecha Behar <mordecha.be...@mail.huji.ac.il> Date: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:43 PM Subject: Re: Finally - A RMS talk in Tel-Aviv. Including details To: Tzafrir Cohen <tzaf...@cohens.org.il>
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <tzaf...@cohens.org.il>wrote: > Written off-list, > > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 08:26:39PM +0300, Mordecha Behar wrote: > > 2011/7/17 Dima (Dan) Yasny <dya...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Orr Dunkelman < > orr.dunkel...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > >> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Michael Shiloh > > >> <michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com> >> To be more general, it is unheard of > > >> for a prospective guest to set > > >> >> political conditions for his hosts. Aside of any other aspects, the > man > > >> >> is a boor, and should have been ignored. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > I'm not sure that's true. Haven't musicians and other performers > used > > >> their > > >> > platform as a way to express agreement or disagreement with > particular > > >> > political positions for ages? > > >> > > > >> > Michael > > >> > > >> It is very rare in computer science to mix politics and work. > > >> Actually, this is true for most exact sciences. > > >> > > >> As for RMS, who is an advocate of freedom of rights, he has just > > >> agreed to accept money (travel costs) in exchange for giving away his > > >> freedom of speech. > > >> Tz'e Wolmad... > > >> > > >> > > > /me don't see what the argument is about. I'll simply vote against > RMS's > > > and his politically inclined friends bs with my feet by _not_ going. > End of > > > story > > > > > > > > Yes, there is that. > > But thanks to the law passed last week we can also take affirmative > action. > > I don't think that suing RMS or the FSF will be a good idea, or even > > feasible (IANAL and I'm pretty sure that this law doesn't hold for > > people/groups from abroad) but we might be able to sue the group > financing > > his trip. > > Again, I'm not sure that that's even a good idea. But it is possible. > > While I find RMS's actions silly and damaging, I will take no part in > such an action. I might even consider donating that group some money to > cover their expences in case you actually go through with your actions. > > I'm for free speach here. > > Now, count to 10, relax a bit, read things through, and don't follow up > on a flame fest. > > Hey, I'm not saying we *should* sue, I'm just saying it's an option. And not a good one. We will alienate ourselves in the worldwide community of open software, and probably burn several bridges which will be very hard to rebuild. I too resent the whole idea of mixing computer science and politics. It makes the whole thing stink like unwashed feet. I'm just a little disappointed that the whole saga unraveled like this. I had higher opinions of RMS before this. > Oh, and: GetTheFacts: http://stallmanfacts.com/ . > > Cheers, > > -- > Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is > http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's > tzaf...@cohens.org.il | | best > tzaf...@debian.org | | friend >
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