On Friday 06 June 2003 01:03, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
> Quoth Dan Armak on Wed, Jun 04, 2003:
> > The problem is threefold:
> > - They are spending tax money on buying copies of msoffice.
> > - They are forcing, or at least encouraging, students to illegally copy
> > msoffice to use at home.
>
> It's illegal, kind of.  Aren't they afraid to be sued?  Even if

Even more so - IANAL, but maybe we can trigger someone to sue
Microsoft because they avoid sueing the schools - since they are
a monopoly maybe it could be regarded as price-dumping?

> Microsoft chooses not to sue them (because schools are
> popularizing their software this way), the parents should make
> the point that school MUST NOT teach their children to steal.

Good point. How can we use it?

I have a feeling that schools are a very important goal - see how Mac's
survived for so long simply because they managed to take over the American
schools section.

>
> > - They are teaching (badly, but that's outside our scope) to use software
> > that (I hope) won't be used nearly as much much in the not too distant
> > future (ie by the time people now in 7th grade graduate).
>
> You should teach *something*.  Why is C taught in schools?  Is it
> the best programming language?  Is it widely used?  Well, yes, it
> is, but will it be widely used in five years?

As much as I'm into object-oriented programming these days, I remember
C was expected to die a horrible death already over ten years ago and
still it's here alive and kicking.

Not to start a flame war - from all the "modern" languages I startted with C
(not counting the languages I used before it) and am affraid that my
experience with it hindered a lot my progress with C++ (though I overcame
this eventually).

Java is considered an easy and clean language to get things going fast,
especially when things like pointers and memory addresses are not floating in
your blood stream from your x86 or 6502 assembler days. Back a few years
ago I heard about many places which switched to Java as a first language with
success.

>
> > Thus counteracting the
> > government's pro-openoffice policy.
>
> What did I miss?  Is OpenOffice the new Israeli standard?

What about suggesting this to the ministry of education, as a matter of 
standardizing the silabus and the school's IT systems?

>
> Vadik.

--Amos

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