What are you all talking about!? My kid (7th grade - Hativat beinaim) was asked to prepare a small project for computer class to summarize the year. The list of projects started and ended with several types of PowerPoint slide show. When I asked my kid whether she is willing to that using OpenOffice, she refused to confront the teacher not to mention that this "project" didn't interest her a bit. C++ !? Basic!? where do you live!?
At high school, if you are not major in computers then chances you will not study it. In compters' majors (rav thumi or mada'i) they use M$ but most kids has some knowledge about Linux. The problem is that the school must standardize on something and they choose M$. This is mostly out of financial reasons and availability. At lease where I live, the principal is very open and since a major part of his budget comes from PTA, there is a room to influence especially if it saves money. He can't and will not rely on volunteers and good will. Not to mention the internal network used for school management. I know that many schools are using software that was written by pupils and/or donated and if they could get an end-to-end solution they would they the cheapest one on the spot since they can't afford anything else. It will be very difficult if MoE will annouce Linux as an official supported option. The way I see it is by preparing a ROI and present it to MoF + MoE and then force them to change the public bids. It won't be easy, but I think that Zandberg needs a high profile issue to justify his salary so it may work Moish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vadim Vygonets" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 4:25 PM Subject: Re: FS/OS in schools: why don't *they* tell us what they want? > Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, Jun 06, 2003: > > I have a feeling that schools are a very important goal - see how Mac's > > survived for so long simply because they managed to take over the American > > schools section. > > Why are you so keen on taking over the world? > > > > > - They are teaching (badly, but that's outside our scope) to use software > > > > that (I hope) won't be used nearly as much much in the not too distant > > > > future (ie by the time people now in 7th grade graduate). > > > > > > You should teach *something*. Why is C taught in schools? Is it > > > the best programming language? Is it widely used? Well, yes, it > > > is, but will it be widely used in five years? > > > > As much as I'm into object-oriented programming these days, I remember > > C was expected to die a horrible death already over ten years ago and > > still it's here alive and kicking. > > *Of course* it's alive and kicking -- it's taught almost > everywhere. Chicken, meet egg. > > > Not to start a flame war > > I'll start it with someone else instead, then. > > > > What did I miss? Is OpenOffice the new Israeli standard? > > > > What about suggesting this to the ministry of education, as a matter of > > standardizing the silabus and the school's IT systems? > > I prefer troff with -mm macros. > > Serioiusly though, I don't have the "us vs. them" mentality on > this matter; I can't see why schools should teach MS Word, but I > can't see why they should teach OpenOffice either. If we want to > promote diversity, we should teach a little bit of everything. > > Vadik. > > -- > Avoid reality at all costs. > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
