> That is the whole point isnt it? These companies
> develop websites, and test
> it solely on IE, and dont even care for other
> browsers like Netscape, Opera
> etc.
Okay so this means they are using a flawed
development model, but it is insufficient to prove
that the are pro M$ or are blocking no-IE browsers.
There is no code in the main page which is blocking
any browser. Absolutely no broser identification is
used anywhere.
Ya, the tag used is not specified in w3c standard but
it doesnot require any special libraries (MS specific)
to be displayed as hyperlink.
>
> The point of that hallofshame webpage is to point
> out instances where the
> said entity doesnt bother making their
> services/products accessible on
> non-IE browsers. It doesnt matter what is causing
> the problem - in most
> cases, these entities dont bother using standard
> compatible code.
>
> For them IE is the standard, and any browsers which
> doesnt support
> everything that IE supports is non-standard.
> Somewhat similar to what you
> wrote in your mail.
>
> The point of this drive is to publicise the fact
> that there is a world
> outside IE which is trying to use their websites.
> Other issues that are
> worth pointing out is when important websites like
> banks, etc. are not
> accessible by people with disabilities like
> color-blindness, etc. Not being
> accessible by any kind of people is discrimination,
> something similar to
> "You can enter this premises, because you are not
> wearing a shirt and tie".
>
What kind of awareness wil you generate by putting a
website directly into "hall of shame" without giving
them a chance to respond. Has anyone reported the
mater to icicidirect.com? Did they declined to make
changes which will make there website work with other
browser? Do the authorities at icicidirect.com even
have a slight idea about standards or are they even
aware of other browsers? You can't assume they want to
disallow other browsers. You cant assume they are even
aware of other browsers, just because you know they
exist.You can't make someone guilty till proven
innocent ;-)
Most of the companies outsource such work and have no
knowledge of w3c standards or any standard infact. For
institutions such as the party under consideration use
technology as a marketing tool. they have an idea in
mind about the kind of service they want to provide to
end user and they simply outsource such work. It ould
turn out that icicidirect.com is unawre of this flaw
(which i still belive is nothing more than a minor
bug) The way to ensure standards are followed is to
first make higher authorities in an organization aware
of the standards and if they still are reluctant and
adhere to some proprietory standard put themin
whatever list you want to .
By putting an organization into a list like this or
posting suggestions like dragging them to consumer
court, without giving them a chance to respond,
paramounts to a libel. We are ourselves providing
material for bad press regarding linux and linux users
to other party.
What if we get bad press due to such actions? Will an
end user even think of using linux if other party
projects linux users as militant?
Even i agree that we need a list like hall of shame
but we have to be very specific under what conditions
website, ISP or vendor will be added to the list. Just
remember this will be a public list and entry into
such a list will have negative impact on the party
involved, so all i want to recomend is just be
careful!!
Regards
VK
PS:- I am no way, directly or indirectly, involved
with www.icicidirect.com.
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