On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 12:22:10PM -0400, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:

> >> Hmm, they use KEY_0 through KEY_9 now.
> >
> >Which results in the phone sending 'é+ěščřžýáí' instead of 
> >'0123456789'
> >on a Czech keyboard, which is definitely not what's intended. Similarly
> >for many other European keyboards.
> >
> 
> Hmm, I uttely confused. Why when atkbd emits KEY_0 it you get 0 in the
> shell (don't you?) but different result with phone keypad?

No, on a Czech keyboard you don't. You press KEY_0, you get 'é'. The
French layout gives sililar results. (For '0' you need to press
KEY_SHIFT KEY_0.)

> >I'll have to figure out where does KEY_103RD come from. I believe it was
> >defined as a key similar to KEY_102ND on specific national keyboards.
> >Brazil springs to mind, but I might be completely wrong. If it's not in
> >use today, we might as well kill it and reuse the code.
> 
> You had it in the beginning but it was removed around 2.6.2 so 84 is
> free at the moment.

OK then.

> >I don't think that it'd be a huge problem to expand KEY_MAX. I'm not
> >entirely convinced we want to have a different event code for every
> >different key numbered '5'.
> 
> But they are different as in people expect different actions when they
> press 5 on the keyboard, keypad, remote control and phone, don't they?

Maybe yes. If they had a input device from hell combining all this
functionality into one, they'd likely still want to differentiate
between the keys.

> Well, maybe not... I can argue both ways I guess... It's more like
> people may not want input from certain devices be used by certain
> programs (like they don't like RC cause numbers to be printed in the
> shell). 

But people like the fact that the 'voip' phone devices type regular keys
into the voip client programs, because that's what the programs expect,
the keys typed on a regular keyboard ...

You can't win in all cases.

> So far they used grabbing on the devices but I don't think
> this is sustainable in the long run.

They likely want per-device keymaps. This would also allow to have two
keyboards, with different language layouts, connected at the same time.
I know a number of people asked how to do that in the past.

-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
Director SuSE Labs

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