> Il giorno 06 ott 2016, alle ore 13:57, Austin S. Hemmelgarn 
> <ahferro...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> 
> On 2016-10-06 07:03, Mark Brown wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 10:04:41AM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Tejun Heo <t...@kernel.org> wrote:
>> 
>>>> I get that bfq can be a good compromise on most desktop workloads and
>>>> behave reasonably well for some server workloads with the slice
>>>> expiration mechanism but it really isn't an IO resource partitioning
>>>> mechanism.
>> 
>>> Not just desktops, also Android phones.
>> 
>>> So why not have BFQ as a separate scheduling policy upstream,
>>> alongside CFQ, deadline and noop?
>> 
>> Right.
>> 
>>> We're already doing the per-usecase Kconfig thing for preemption.
>>> But maybe somebody already hates that and want to get rid of it,
>>> I don't know.
>> 
>> Hannes also suggested going back to making BFQ a separate scheduler
>> rather than replacing CFQ earlier, pointing out that it mitigates
>> against the risks of changing CFQ substantially at this point (which
>> seems to be the biggest issue here).
>> 
> ISTR that the original argument for this approach essentially amounted to: 
> 'If it's so much better, why do we need both?'.
> 
> Such an argument is valid only if the new design is better in all respects 
> (which there isn't sufficient information to decide in this case), or the 
> negative aspects are worth the improvements (which is too workload specific 
> to decide for something like this).

All correct, apart from the workload-specific issue, which is not very clear to 
me. Over the last five years I have not found a single workload for which CFQ 
is better than BFQ, and none has been suggested.

Anyway, leaving aside this fact, IMO the real problem here is that we are in a 
catch-22: "we want BFQ to replace CFQ, but, since CFQ is legacy code, then you 
cannot change, and thus replace, CFQ"

Thanks,
Paolo

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