On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 07:46:30PM +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote: > On Fri, 2017-11-24 at 11:26 +0100, Uladzislau Rezki wrote: > > > > I guess there is misunderstanding here. The main goal is not to cover > > pinned case, for sure. I was thinking more about below points: > > > > - Extend a claim_wake_up logic for making an ILB/NO_HZ decision more > > predictable (that is good for mobile workloads). Because as it is > > right now it simply returns a first CPU in a "nohz" mask and if we > > know that CPU has been claimed i think it is worth to go with another > > ILB core, since waking up on a remote CPU + doing nohz_idle_balance > > does not improve wake-up latency and is a miss from ilb point of view. > > Using unsynchronized access of a flag set by chaotic events all over > the box? Well, entering NO_HZ mode and checking nohz.idle_cpus_mask nohz_balancer_kick() -> find_new_ilb() are obviously asynchronous events and like you say is chaotic except of accessing to the cpumask variable (i mean atomically). So do not see any issues with that.
> > > If you have any proposal, i would be appreciated if you could > > share your specific view. > > My view is you're barking up the wrong tree: you're making the idle > data SIS is using more accurate, but I question the benefit. That it > makes an imperfect placement decision occasionally due to raciness is > nearly meaningless compared to the cost of frequent bounce. Before sitting down and start testing, i just illustrated how we can apply claim_wake_up to ilb asking community a specific view on it: drawbacks, pros/cons, proposals etc. > > Better (but still not perfect, that requires atomics) state information > doesn't meaningfully improve decision quality. > I agree, it should be atomic, something like below: core.c +/* cpus with claim wake-up set bit */ +cpumask_t cpu_claim_wake_up_map; ... @@ -1559,6 +1562,7 @@ int select_task_rq(struct task_struct *p, int cpu, int sd_flags, int wake_flags) !cpu_online(cpu))) cpu = select_fallback_rq(task_cpu(p), p); + cpumask_test_and_set_cpu(cpu, &cpu_claim_wake_up_map); return cpu; } ... + if (cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, &cpu_claim_wake_up_map)) + return 0; + return 1; } fair.c: static inline int find_new_ilb(void) { - int ilb = cpumask_first(nohz.idle_cpus_mask); + cpumask_t cpumask; + int ilb; + + cpumask_andnot(&cpumask, nohz.idle_cpus_mask, + &cpu_claim_wake_up_map); + + ilb = cpumask_first(&cpumask); > > Considering a core as not-idle when somebody tends to wake up a task on > > it is a good point. If you have any specific example when it is bad, > > please share it. > > I'm not sure how that will work out. Probably like most everything wrt > SIS, first comes "woohoo" then "aw crap", and off to the trash it goes. > -- Uladzislau Rezki