Hi Vito,
2018-01-17 23:48 GMT+01:00 <vcap...@pengaru.com>:
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:25:33AM +0100, Enric Balletbo Serra wrote:
>> Hi Vito,
>>
>> 2017-12-01 22:33 GMT+01:00 <vcap...@pengaru.com>:
>> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:39:19AM -0800, vcap...@pengaru.com wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> Recently I noticed substantial audio dropouts when listening to MP3s in
>> >> `cmus` while doing big and churny `git checkout` commands in my linux git
>> >> tree.
>> >>
>> >> It's not something I've done much of over the last couple months so I
>> >> hadn't noticed until yesterday, but didn't remember this being a problem
>> >> in
>> >> recent history.
>> >>
>> >> As there's quite an accumulation of similarly configured and built kernels
>> >> in my grub menu, it was trivial to determine approximately when this
>> >> began:
>> >>
>> >> 4.11.0: no dropouts
>> >> 4.12.0-rc7: dropouts
>> >> 4.14.0-rc6: dropouts (seem more substantial as well, didn't investigate)
>> >>
>> >> Watching top while this is going on in the various kernel versions, it's
>> >> apparent that the kworker behavior changed. Both the priority and
>> >> quantity
>> >> of running kworker threads is elevated in kernels experiencing dropouts.
>> >>
>> >> Searching through the commit history for v4.11..v4.12 uncovered:
>> >>
>> >> commit a1b89132dc4f61071bdeaab92ea958e0953380a1
>> >> Author: Tim Murray <timmur...@google.com>
>> >> Date: Fri Apr 21 11:11:36 2017 +0200
>> >>
>> >> dm crypt: use WQ_HIGHPRI for the IO and crypt workqueues
>> >>
>> >> Running dm-crypt with workqueues at the standard priority results in
>> >> IO
>> >> competing for CPU time with standard user apps, which can lead to
>> >> pipeline bubbles and seriously degraded performance. Move to using
>> >> WQ_HIGHPRI workqueues to protect against that.
>> >>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Tim Murray <timmur...@google.com>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balle...@collabora.com>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Mike Snitzer <snit...@redhat.com>
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >>
>> >> Reverting a1b8913 from 4.14.0-rc6, my current kernel, eliminates the
>> >> problem completely.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at the diff in that commit, it looks like the commit message isn't
>> >> even accurate; not only is the priority of the dmcrypt workqueues being
>> >> changed - they're also being made "CPU intensive" workqueues as well.
>> >>
>> >> This combination appears to result in both elevated scheduling priority
>> >> and
>> >> greater quantity of participant worker threads effectively starving any
>> >> normal priority user task under periods of heavy IO on dmcrypt volumes.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know what the right solution is here. It seems to me we're
>> >> lacking
>> >> the appropriate mechanism for charging CPU resources consumed on behalf of
>> >> user processes in kworker threads to the work-causing process.
>> >>
>> >> What effectively happens is my normal `git` user process is able to
>> >> greatly amplify what share of CPU it takes from the system by generating
>> >> IO
>> >> on what happens to be a high-priority CPU-intensive storage volume.
>> >>
>> >> It looks potentially complicated to fix properly, but I suspect at its
>> >> core
>> >> this may be a fairly longstanding shortcoming of the page cache and its
>> >> asynchronous design. Something that has been exacerbated substantially by
>> >> the introduction of CPU-intensive storage subsystems like dmcrypt.
>> >>
>> >> If we imagine the whole stack simplified, where all the IO was being done
>> >> synchronously in-band, and the dmcrypt kernel code simply ran in the
>> >> IO-causing process context, it would be getting charged to the calling
>> >> process and scheduled accordingly. The resource accounting and scheduling
>> >> problems all emerge with the page cache, buffered IO, and async background
>> >> writeback in a pool of unrelated worker threads, etc. That's how it
>> >> appears to me anyways...
>> >>
>> >> The system used is a X61s Thinkpad 1.8Ghz with 840 EVO SSD, lvm on
>> >> dmcrypt.
>> >> The kernel .config is attached in case it's of interest.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Vito Caputo
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ping...
>> >
>> > Could somebody please at least ACK receiving this so I'm not left wondering
>> > if my mails to lkml are somehow winding up flagged as spam, thanks!
>>
>> Sorry I did not notice your email before you ping me directly. It's
>> interesting that issue, though we didn't notice this problem. It's a
>> bit far since I tested this patch but I'll setup the environment again
>> and do more tests to understand better what is happening.
>>
>
> Any update on this?
>
I did not reproduce the issue for now. Can you try what happens if you
remove the WQ_CPU_INTENSIVE in the kcryptd_io workqueue?
- cc->io_queue = alloc_workqueue("kcryptd_io", WQ_HIGHPRI |
WQ_CPU_INTENSIVE | WQ_MEM_RECLAIM, 1);
cc->io_queue = alloc_workqueue("kcryptd_io", WQ_HIGHPRI | WQ_MEM_RECLAIM, 1);
> I still experience it on 4.15-rc7 when doing sustained heavyweight git
> checkouts without a1b8913 reverted.
>
> Thanks,
> Vito Caputo
