On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:12:10PM +0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 03:26:14PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 03:08:52PM +0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > > Now we have four kinds of dependencies in the dependency graph, and not
> > > all the pathes carry strong dependencies, for example:
> > > 
> > >   Given lock A, B, C, if we have:
> > > 
> > >   CPU1                    CPU2
> > >   =============           ==============
> > >   write_lock(A);          read_lock(B);
> > >   read_lock(B);           write_lock(C);
> > > 
> > >   then we have dependencies A--(NR)-->B, and B--(RN)-->C, (NR and
> > >   RN are to indicate the dependency kind), A actually doesn't have
> > >   strong dependency to C(IOW, C doesn't depend on A), to see this,
> > >   let's say we have a third CPU3 doing:
> > > 
> > >   CPU3:
> > >   =============
> > >   write_lock(C);
> > >   write_lock(A);
> > > 
> > >   , this is not a deadlock. However if we change the read_lock()
> > >   on CPU2 to a write_lock(), it's a deadlock then.
> > > 
> > >   So A --(NR)--> B --(RN)--> C is not a strong dependency path but
> > >   A --(NR)--> B --(NN)-->C is a strong dependency path.
> > 
> > I'm not really satisfied with the above reasoning. I don't disagree, but
> > if possible it would be nice to have something a little more solid.
> > 
> 
> What do you mean by "solid"? You mean "A --(NR)--> B --(NN)-->C" is too
> abstract, and want something like the below instead:

The above description mostly leaves it as an exercise to the reader to
'proof' ignoring *R -> R* is both safe and complete while that is the
main argument.

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