On 16.01.2019 07:24, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 12:11:12AM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
>>
>> # tracer: nop
>> #
>> #                              _-----=> irqs-off
>> #                             / _----=> need-resched
>> #                            | / _---=> hardirq/softirq
>> #                            || / _--=> preempt-depth
>> #                            ||| /     delay
>> #           TASK-PID   CPU#  ||||    TIMESTAMP  FUNCTION
>> #              | |       |   ||||       |         |
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.099092: softirq_raise: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.099098: softirq_raise: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.099106: softirq_raise: vec=7 
>> [action=SCHED]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.099114: softirq_entry: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.099120: softirq_exit: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.099121: softirq_entry: vec=7 
>> [action=SCHED]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.099134: softirq_exit: vec=7 
>> [action=SCHED]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.099135: softirq_entry: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.099141: softirq_exit: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.100094: softirq_raise: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.100109: softirq_entry: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.100116: softirq_exit: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.101091: softirq_raise: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.101113: softirq_entry: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.101118: softirq_exit: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.102094: softirq_raise: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.102114: softirq_entry: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.102121: softirq_exit: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.103091: softirq_raise: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.103097: softirq_raise: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.103105: softirq_raise: vec=7 
>> [action=SCHED]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.103114: softirq_entry: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.103118: softirq_exit: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.103119: softirq_entry: vec=7 
>> [action=SCHED]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.103131: softirq_exit: vec=7 
>> [action=SCHED]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.103132: softirq_entry: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.103138: softirq_exit: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.105092: softirq_raise: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.105115: softirq_entry: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.105119: softirq_exit: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.106092: softirq_raise: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.106112: softirq_entry: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] .Ns2  1479.106144: softirq_exit: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>          cpuhp/1-13    [001] d..2  1479.106279: timer_cancel: 
>> timer=0000000009a25653
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.106965: softirq_raise: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.106969: softirq_raise: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.106974: softirq_raise: vec=7 
>> [action=SCHED]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.106981: softirq_entry: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.106984: softirq_exit: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.106985: softirq_entry: vec=7 
>> [action=SCHED]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.106994: softirq_exit: vec=7 
>> [action=SCHED]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.106995: softirq_entry: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.106999: softirq_exit: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.107996: softirq_raise: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.108010: softirq_entry: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.108014: softirq_exit: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.109009: softirq_raise: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.109013: softirq_raise: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.109024: softirq_entry: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.109028: softirq_exit: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.109028: softirq_entry: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.109033: softirq_exit: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.110013: softirq_raise: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.110033: softirq_entry: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.110040: softirq_exit: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.111011: softirq_raise: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.111017: softirq_raise: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d.h2  1479.111026: softirq_raise: vec=7 
>> [action=SCHED]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.111035: softirq_entry: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.111040: softirq_exit: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.111040: softirq_entry: vec=7 
>> [action=SCHED]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.111052: softirq_exit: vec=7 
>> [action=SCHED]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] ..s2  1479.111052: softirq_entry: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] .Ns2  1479.111079: softirq_exit: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>          cpuhp/1-13    [001] dNh2  1479.112930: softirq_raise: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>          cpuhp/1-13    [001] dNh2  1479.112935: softirq_raise: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] d..1  1479.113077: <stack trace>
>>  => can_stop_idle_tick.isra.14
>>  => tick_nohz_get_sleep_length
>>  => menu_select
>>  => cpuidle_select
>>  => do_idle
>>  => cpu_startup_entry
>>  => start_secondary
>>  => secondary_startup_64
>>           <idle>-0     [001] .Ns2  1479.113110: softirq_entry: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] .Ns2  1479.113114: softirq_exit: vec=1 
>> [action=TIMER]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] .Ns2  1479.113115: softirq_entry: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
>>           <idle>-0     [001] .Ns2  1479.113139: softirq_exit: vec=9 
>> [action=RCU]
> 
> 
> So, I'm being very doubtful now actually.
> 
> First of all, I realize my patch only fixes things halfway. Only softirq 
> raised from
> hardirqs are going to be handled after ksoftirqd is parked. If it's raised 
> outside
> interrupts, the softirq is going to be ignored. If other smpboot kthreads, 
> following
> ksoftirqd parking, raise softirqs from their park() callback we should at 
> least warn
> that we are ignoring that.
> 
> Also, I'm still not sure if you're running threaded IRQs. Very likely not as
> the softirqs in your traces are executed in idle, which means from an IRQ 
> interrupting
> idle. You haven't passed "threadirqs" in your kernel parameters, right?
> In any case we need to figure out why your softirqs raised at 1479.112930 and
> 1479.112935 don't get handled.
> 
The only softirq I'm aware of is network NAPI processing. And no, I have no 
kernel
command line parameter "threadirqs" set.

> Finally I don't understand why you have so many timer softirqs and yet no 
> timer traces
> at all, I turned them on in the script I gave you. So something weird is 
> happening with
> the timers code. At best we are wasting lots of CPU cycles with those empty 
> softirqs, at
> worst we are miscalculating some expiration somewhere, possibly ignoring a 
> timer.
> 
> So I'll need to cook up an updated debug patch for you to trigger if you don't
> mind.
> 
I don't mind ..

> Thanks.
> 
Heiner

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