On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 03:51:52PM +0000, Ken Sloat wrote:
> Hello Nicolas,
> 
> I wanted to open a discussion proposing new functionality to allow disabling 
> of the watchdog timer upon entering 
> suspend in the SAMA5D2/4.
> 
> Typical use case of a hardware watchdog timer in the kernel is a userspace 
> application opens the watchdog timer and
> periodically "kicks" it. If the application hits a deadlock somewhere and is 
> no longer able to kick it, then the watchdog
> intervenes and often resets the processor. Such is the case for the Atmel 
> driver (which also allows a watchdog interrupt
> to be asserted in lieu of a system reset). In most use cases, upon entering a 
> low power/suspend state, the application 
> will no longer be able to "kick" the watchdog. If the watchdog is not 
> disabled or kicked via another method, then it will
> reset the system. This is the current behavior of the Atmel driver as of 
> today.
> 
> The watchdog peripheral itself does have a "WDIDLEHLT" bit however, and this 
> is enabled via the "atmel,idle-halt" dt
> property. However, this is not very useful, as it literally only makes the 
> watchdog count when the CPU is active. This 
> results in non-deterministic triggering of the WDT and means that if a 
> critical application were to crash, it may be
> quite a long time before the WDT would ever trigger. Below is a similar 
> statement made in the device-tree doc for this
> peripheral:
> 
> - atmel,idle-halt: present if you want to stop the watchdog when the CPU is
>                  in idle state.
>       CAUTION: This property should be used with care, it actually makes the
>       watchdog not counting when the CPU is in idle state, therefore the
>       watchdog reset time depends on mean CPU usage and will not reset at all
>       if the CPU stop working while it is in idle state, which is probably
>       not what you want.
> 
> It seems to me, that it would be logical and useful to introduce a new 
> property that would cause the Atmel WDT
> to disable on suspend and re-enable on resume. It also appears that the WDT 
> is re-initialized anyways upon
> resume, so the only piece missing here would really be a dt flag and a call 
> to disable.
> 
Wondering - why would this need a dt property ? That would be quite unusual. Is
there a condition where one would _not_ want the watchdog to stop on suspend ?

If anything I would suggest to drop atmel,idle-halt completely; it really looks
like it would make the watchdog unreliable.

Thanks,
Guenter

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