On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:20 PM Sasha Levin <sas...@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 12:45:18PM -0700, h...@zytor.com wrote:
> >There are legitimate reasons to write a root-hole module, the main one being
> >able to test security features like SMAP. I have requested before a TAINT
> >flag specifically for this purpose, because TAINT_CRAP is nowhere near
> >explicit enough, and is also used for staging drivers. Call it TAINT_TOXIC
> >or TAINT_ROOTHOLE; it should always be accompanied with a CRIT level alert.
>
> What I don't like about our current system of TAINT_* flags is that
> while we can improve it as much as we want, no one outside of the kernel
> tree seems to be using it. While Thomas may have been commenting on
> Graphene's behaviour, look at any other code that did the same thing:
Even if these modules would set TAINT_ROOTHOLE/TOXIC, the vast majority of users
have no clue what these flags really mean nor bother to take them seriously.
Almost every customer system I get my hands on has the following flags set:
C: Some driver from staging was "needed", mostly media or wifi stuff.
O: Customer did a custom module.
W: Random warning from vendor kernel at bootup because of a slightly
configured device-tree, etc.
P: Sadly too. Mostly because customer has custom module and forgot to set it GPL
All this trained users to believe that a few taint flags don't hurt
and only in a perfect world
none are set.
What works and raises attention is Steve's trace_printk() warning:
pr_warn("**********************************************************\n");
pr_warn("** NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE **\n");
pr_warn("** **\n");
pr_warn("** trace_printk() being used. Allocating extra memory. **\n");
pr_warn("** **\n");
pr_warn("** This means that this is a DEBUG kernel and it is **\n");
pr_warn("** unsafe for production use. **\n");
pr_warn("** **\n");
pr_warn("** If you see this message and you are not debugging **\n");
pr_warn("** the kernel, report this immediately to your vendor! **\n");
pr_warn("** **\n");
pr_warn("** NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE **\n");
pr_warn("**********************************************************\n");
Maybe we can add something like this for taints too? :-)
--
Thanks,
//richard
