On Tue, 01 May 2001 11:16:50 +1000, Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>kgdb relies on gdb so you loose the knowledge of kernel internals (no,
>I am *not* going to teach gdb about kernel stacks, out of line lock
>code etc.).  kgdb has more of a dependency on a working kernel.  It
>provides source level debugging, although stack backtrace tends not to
>work unless you compile the kernel with frame pointers.
>
>UML is great for debugging generic kernel code such as filesystems, but
>cannot be used for most arch code or hardware drivers.
>
>My ideal debugger is one that combines the internal knowledge of kdb
>with the source level debugging of gdb.  I know how to do this over a
>serial line, finding time to write the code is the problem.

I've been thinking about this a little bit and I suspect the right thing
may be to combine a kgdb style debuging stub with the Mission Critical
Linux crash code (http://oss.missioncriticallinux.com/projects/crash/).
Crash is based around gdb and adds the ability to easily examine the
process table, memory maps, kernel logs, wait queues, timers, etc.  Crash
already is able to examine a live system by reading /dev/mem.  The only
thing you'd need to add is the ability to attach to a live system over a
serial port (probably not too hard since gdb already knows how to do that).

Aaron
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