On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 18:48 +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> On 06/20/2013 05:47 PM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 15:28 +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> >>> Just out of curiosity - would not get_file() and fput_atomic() on a
> >> group's
> >>> file* do the right job instead of vfio_group_add_external_user() and
> >>> vfio_group_del_external_user()?
> >>
> >> I was thinking that too.  Grabbing a file reference would certainly be
> >> the usual way of handling this sort of thing.
> > 
> > But that wouldn't prevent the group ownership to be returned to
> > the kernel or another user would it ?
> 
> 
> Holding the file pointer does not let the group->container_users counter go
> to zero

How so?  Holding the file pointer means the file won't go away, which
means the group release function won't be called.  That means the group
won't go away, but that doesn't mean it's attached to an IOMMU.  A user
could call UNSET_CONTAINER.

>  and this is exactly what vfio_group_add_external_user() and
> vfio_group_del_external_user() do. The difference is only in absolute value
> - 2 vs. 3.
> 
> No change in behaviour whether I use new vfio API or simply hold file* till
> KVM closes fd created when IOMMU was connected to LIOBN.

By that notion you could open(/dev/vfio/$GROUP) and you're safe, right?
But what about SET_CONTAINER & SET_IOMMU?  All that you guarantee
holding the file pointer is that the vfio_group exists.

> And while this counter is not zero, QEMU cannot take ownership over the group.
>
> I am definitely still missing the bigger picture...

The bigger picture is that the group needs to exist AND it needs to be
setup and maintained to have IOMMU protection.  Actually, my first stab
at add_external_user doesn't look sufficient, it needs to look more like
vfio_group_get_device_fd, checking group->container->iommu and
group_viable().  As written it would allow an external user after
SET_CONTAINER without SET_IOMMU.  It should also be part of the API that
the external user must hold the file reference between add_external_use
and del_external_user and do cleanup on any exit paths.  Thanks,

Alex

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