On 09/12/2013 04:10 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:42:29 PM Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>> On 09/12/2013 12:14 PM, Viresh Kumar wrote:
>>> On 12 September 2013 12:00, Srivatsa S. Bhat
>>> <srivatsa.b...@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>> Looking at the rate at which we are bumping into each others thoughts, I 
>>>> think
>>>> maybe we should switch from email to IRC ;-) ;-)
>>>
>>> Unbelievable, Even I thought so this morning :)
>>>
>>> One more thing that I wanted to say for some other threads..
>>> Your changelogs are simply superb.. The amount of information that you put 
>>> in
>>> them is fantastic.. 
>>
>> Thank you! :-) I'm glad to hear that!
>>
>> Believe it or not, I spend almost an equal (if not more) amount of time 
>> ensuring
>> that I get the changelog absolutely right, compared to the time I spend 
>> actually
>> writing the code. The reason is that, I have been pleasantly surprised by the
>> power of the changelog in numerous occasions: the very act of composing a 
>> proper 
>> changelog forces me to think *much* more clearly than when writing code. And 
>> it
>> often gives me the opportunity to rethink the *entire* approach/solution and 
>> not
>> just the implementation, since I need to explain the full context in it, not
>> just what the code does. And *that* exercise can reveal more complex/subtle 
>> bugs
>> than mere code review can ever do. That's why I put so much emphasis on 
>> writing
>> a perfect changelog :-) [Believe it or not, I have had times when I figured 
>> out
>> that my entire solution was utterly nonsensical when I began writing the 
>> changelog,
>> *after* reviewing and testing the code! ... and of course I had to rework the
>> entire patch! ;-( ]
>>
>> And to prevent myself from going overboard with writing the changelog (like 
>> making
>> it way too verbose or convoluted with too much detail), I have a simple 
>> mechanism/
>> handy rule in place:
>>
>> The changelog should be such that, whoever reads the changelog should feel 
>> that
>> the time he spent reading it was totally worth it. IOW, it should not simply
>> regurgitate what is already obvious from the code. Instead it should provide
>> insights into the subtle aspects or tradeoffs relevant to the patch; in 
>> short, it
>> should explain the "_why_ behind the _what_" as clearly and in as few words 
>> as
>> possible :-)
>>
>> Well, atleast I _try_ to stick to that rule :-)
> 
> Can you please prepare a patch against Documentation/SubmittingPatches with 
> the
> above paragraph in it?  Seriously.
> 

Sure, I'd be delighted to :-)

> There are people who don't really see a reason for writing good patch
> changelogs.
> 

Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat

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