On 09/16/2014 08:59 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 08:44:03AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: >> Note that that's not really a 'NUMA node' in the way lots of >> places in the kernel assume it: permanent placement assymetry >> (and access cost assymetry) of RAM. > > Agreed, that is not NUMA, both groups will have the exact same local > DRAM latency (unlike the AMD thing which has two memory busses on the > single package, and therefore really has two nodes on a single chip).
I don't think this is correct. >From my testing, each ring of CPUs has a "close" and "far" memory controller in the socket. > This also means the CoD thing sets up the NUMA masks incorrectly. I used this publicly-available Intel tool: https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intelr-memory-latency-checker And ran various combinations pinning the latency checker to various CPUs and NUMA nodes. Here's what I think the SLIT table should look like with cluster-on-die disabled. There is one node per socket and the latency to the other node is 1.5x the latency to the local node: * 0 1 0 10 15 1 15 10 or, measured in ns: * 0 1 0 76 119 1 114 76 Enabling cluster-on-die, we get 4 nodes. The local memory in thesame socket gets faster, and remote memory in the same socket gets both absolutely and relatively slower: * 0 1 2 3 0 10 20 26 26 1 20 10 26 26 2 26 26 10 20 3 26 26 20 10 and in ns: * 0 1 2 3 0 74.8 152.3 190.6 200.4 1 146.2 75.6 190.8 200.6 2 185.1 195.5 74.5 150.1 3 186.6 195.6 147.3 75.6 So I think it really is reasonable to say that there are 2 NUMA nodes in a socket. BTW, these numbers are only approximate. They were not run under particularly controlled conditions and I don't even remember what kernel they were under. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/