Am 15.04.2015 um 11:49 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman: > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:30:52AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote: >> Am 15.04.2015 um 11:27 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman: >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:21:49AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote: >>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:20:34AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: >>>>>> We're all forced to use cgroups, systemd, udev unless we want to have >>>>>> busybox >>>>>> as userland. That's a fact. >>>>> >>>>> Is that a problem? >>>> >>>> I'm amazed that you're really actually asking that question :-( >>> >>> Really? Why can't userspace rely on the features that the kernel >>> provides them? If not, why would the feature be created and supported >>> by us kernel developers in the first place? >> >> This IMHO not the problem. >> But if we add a new component to the kernel which *will* be used >> by almost every userland out there (systemd won the "init wars") >> we have to make sure that we're all fine with it. > > Sure, but why would this be different from any other kernel feature that > we add? We have to be sure we are fine with everything we merge, as we > are saying we are going to maintain this stuff for forever.
There is nothing different. The series has currently two NACKs, 0 ACKs and 0 Reviews. I don't think that any other series would get merged in such a state. >> Andy and Eric have some very valid concerns. > > I've tried to address Andy's concerns, Eric is not being very specific, > so there's nothing I can do there :) What about Stevens proposal to talk at Plumbers? I fear the discussion is at a dead end and needs a face to face resolution. Thanks, //richard -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
