Hello Oliver,

On 2015-06-22 12:34, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
> Hello Manfred,
> 
> On 22.06.2015 12:10, Manfred Schlaegl wrote:
>> On 2015-06-21 18:50, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
>>> As reported by Manfred Schlaegl here
>>>
>>>     http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=143482089824232&w=2
>>>
>>> commit 514ac99c64b "can: fix multiple delivery of a single CAN frame for
>>> overlapping CAN filters" requires the skb->tstamp to be set to check for
>>> identical CAN skbs.
>>>
>>> As net timestamping is influenced by several players (netstamp_needed and
>>> netdev_tstamp_prequeue) Manfred missed a proper timestamp which leads to
>>> CAN frame loss.
>>>
>>> As skb timestamping became now mandatory for CAN related skbs this patch
>>> makes sure that received CAN skbs always have a proper timestamp set.
>>> Maybe there's a better solution in the future but this patch fixes the
>>> CAN frame loss so far.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure, but maybe this patch (and also my original one) opens a new 
>> potential issue with timestamps.
>>
>> If the timestamp is set at allocation time, this cancels setting the 
>> timestamp at delivery (by net_timestamp_check in, for example, 
>> netif_receive_skb_internal.) -> So it changes the behavior of timestamping 
>> (http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/networking/timestamping.txt?id=b953c0d234bc72e8489d3bf51a276c5c4ec85345)
>>  generally.
> 
> The only change is that the timestamps for CAN skbs are generated always.
> The idea behind the timestamping by user control is to omit the timestamping 
> when it's not needed. There's no user visible change in behaviour when the 
> timestamp is set in the CAN skbs all time.
> 
>> Hypothetical example: If timestamping is enabled by the user and there is a 
>> significant delay between allocation and delivery of a skb (early allocation 
>> in driver or something) the timestamp does not reflect the reception time 
>> anymore.
> 
> The change only affects CAN skbs.
> These skbs are allocated at CAN frame reception time, filled with content and 
> then sent to the network layer.
> 
> AFAICS the timestamp becomes more precise for CAN related skbs.
> I did not see any case of 'early allocation' in linux/drivers/net/can, did 
> you?

No, I also did not find this case in current driver implementations -- because 
of that I gave the hypothetical example.
I just was worried about that this may be a potential latent issue for future 
driver implementations and wanted to indicate this.

But I trust your expertise, so if you are fine with it, I'm too. ;-)

Best regards,
Manfred
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