Linux-Misc Digest #348, Volume #18 Fri, 25 Dec 98 17:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: KDE doesn't work => KFM not running/ not ready HELP!!! (Viet Yen Nguyen)
Can not log in while dail-up connection is active ??? Please Help (Ken)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Jeremy Crabtree)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Irritating problem with Drag and Drop in SO5 (Eusebio Garate)
Re: Infringement of the GPL (Rod Smith)
HELP: unresolved C++ externals for TCL extension (cano_jonathan)
Linux USENET Archive At COMPUTERCRAFT (COMPUTERCRAFT)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Infringement of the GPL (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Torvalds distribution? (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: WP8 under RH 5.2 - other than root (Gary Momarison)
Trouble with talk. (Abe Lin)
Re: Linux equvalent of batch files? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: DEL button with X11 3.3.3 (Gary Momarison)
Re: The goal of Open Source (Rod Smith)
Re: Reasons for me to toss Linux (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: From a linux dummy ("A")
Re: Unix vs Windows NT (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: setup Linux partitions (Timothy J. Lee)
Re: things I'd pay to have developed for Linux... (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Jim Richardson)
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From: Viet Yen Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,nl.comp.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: KDE doesn't work => KFM not running/ not ready HELP!!!
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 18:57:04 +0100
Diederik Kok wrote:
Pak de hele boel sources en compileer ze.
--
Bye,
Viet Yen, Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux CD kopen ? Ga naar ---> http://lkg.gii.net (NL)
Kostprijs ? !0 gulden per CD inc. verzendkosten!
We hebben --> Red Hat, Slackware, SuSE, Debian enz.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken)
Subject: Can not log in while dail-up connection is active ??? Please Help
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 17:49:48 GMT
Can not log in while dail-up connection is active ??? Please Help
================================================================================
I am running a Linux mail server on RedHat 5.0
For some odd reason, whenever the dialup line is active
(dialup SMTP mail exchange) users on the network can not log in.
any sessions not already active are frozen. If I use a function key to
get to a diff. tty on the console it does not allow me to log in
either. (tried root too).
Can anyone tell me what could be causing it?
Does it have anything to do with the dialup script and how it is
running ?
Any info. thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appr.
Also, if you have an opinion about upgrading to RH 5.2 and if this
will fix any problems please let me know.
Thanks,
Ken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Crabtree)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 25 Dec 1998 18:12:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] allegedly wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 16:23:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 15:55:37 +0000, mlw wrote these thought provoking
>>words :
>>
>> :[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> :>
>> :> On 25 Dec 1998 14:11:16 GMT, Destrius wrote these thought provoking
>> :> words :
>> :>
>> :>
>> :> :My entire registry (user.dat and system.dat) suddenly disappeared from
>the
>> :> :face of my Windows partition after I deleted a single non-related file in
>> :> :some directory. This was one month after I re-installed Windows95 fresh.
>> :>
>> :> Are you blaming windows for that very unfortunate mishap? :-/
>> :Actually it has to be Windows, because system.dat and user.dat are
>> :locked while Windows is running. Without extreme measures, a user can
>> :not delete user.dat and system.dat.
>> :
>> :Suffice to say, when the registry is corrupt, it is Windows' fault.
>> :Windows hides the structure (data format), manages the API, and locks
>> :the files when it is running. What else can corrupt such a file?
>>
>>
>>The file was not corrupted. It was deleted. Wow.
>>
>>Very unfortunate.
>
> You do realize that it does take some intent to
> delete a system file even under DOS.
Especially those two files. In Win95 even the DOS "kernel" is hardcoded to
not let you touch them. (you can't even copy the buggers, making backup
rather awkward)
--
"Being myself a remarkably stupid fellow, I have had to unteach myself the
difficulties, and now beg to present to my fellow fools the parts that are
not hard" --Silvanus P. Thompson, from "Calculus Made Easy."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 10:07:03 -0800
On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 17:25:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Let me add my $0.02 of opinion here,
>
> On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 08:39:54 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
>wrote these thought provoking words :
>
> :>The file was not corrupted. It was deleted. Wow.
> :>
> :>Very unfortunate.
> :
> : You do realize that it does take some intent to
> : delete a system file even under DOS.
>
>Yes I do.
>
>Very unfortunate incident I see and you guys just love it.
It's just a nice counter to all the assinine WinVocates
that like to claim all of the registry's problems are
strictly in our heads.
--
Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
as soon as your grip slips.
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: Eusebio Garate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Irritating problem with Drag and Drop in SO5
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 11:44:33 -0800
Hello,
I have written several times about the following problem I have with
SO50 using
RH 5.2. However, I have not received any comments/confirmations from
others about
the problem I am having.
When I use Starwriter and create a document it is saved, by default, to
the
Workfolder (I know I can change this). If I try to Drag and Drop the
document to
a new location within Explorer it is somehow converted to a file 1 byte
long
(I checked this using right mouse button--then properties in the dialog
box)
and will not open. I get a Select Filter dialog box with 'Other
application'
highlighted. Clicking on OK gives me the following message 'error
opening document
file--then full path and file name: Nonexistent object Nonexistent
file'. The path and
file name are correct and reflect the new location after the Drag and
Drop.
Does anyone else have a similar problem? Please post or reply to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
Eusebio
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Infringement of the GPL
Date: 25 Dec 1998 19:55:10 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams) writes:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 01:27:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>K. Spoon writes:
>>> However, I remember a quote from someone (Paul Vixie, maybe?) saying that
>>> he had been hired by a few companies to maintain their proprietary
>>> products and found his own GPL'd code in them. He said he never
>>> prosecuted.
>>
>>steve mcadams writes:
>>> Now there's a real reason not to go GPL.
>>
>>I don't follow you.
>
> Wouldn't it rather piss you off to find somebody selling your GPL'ed
> code as their own proprietary work? It would me, I think. But not
> having released any GPL code to date maybe I don't know what I'm
> talking about; maybe it wouldn't bother me.
Then there are basically three alternatives:
1) Go with GPL anyhow, and run the risk of code being stolen;
2) Go with some other open source license, and run the risk of code being
stolen;
3) Not release the code publicly (either don't release it at all, or
release only executables).
#1 and #2 are essentially indistinguishable. #3 prevents theft, but also
prevents the free dissemination of code/information, which is the whole
point to releasing code as GPL (or with similar licenses).
Further, the original message claimed that the code's author *CHOSE* not
to pursue the issue through the courts. If he had, it's conceivable he
would have won the case.
Overall, then, I'd say this isn't a good argument against releasing code
as GPL, any more than the presence of music pirates is an argument against
registering music with the copyright office.
One more point: This is nth-hand information, and the quoted message
doesn't give much context for the original case. These "proprietary
products" may have been used internally only, for instance, and AFAIK the
GPL doesn't forbid that sort of use. There's also a lot of ground between
"ignoring the matter completely" and "prosecute them;" the code's author
might have waved the GPL in the offenders' faces and forced them to
replace the code or release the end product, for instance, without
resorting to the courts.
In sum, that anecdote means very little, at least as presented.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.users.fast.net/~rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the digit and following word from my address to mail me
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Subject: HELP: unresolved C++ externals for TCL extension
From: cano_jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 19:52:29 GMT
Howdy. I'm having trouble creating a dynamically loadable extension
for TCL 8.0 using C++ on linux.
For starters I'll tell you what I'm using:
linux Redhat 5.1 (2.0.34)
wish patchlevel 8.0p2
gcc version egcs-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2 release)
GNU ld version 2.9.1 (with BFD 2.9.1.0.4)
the particular TCL package I'm playing with is:
ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/re/reid/tkgc-0.7.tgz
FYI, tkgc is a client program for the IGS (Internet Go Server). I've
built and run tkgc successfully on previous incarnations of my linux
system (Redhat 4.1).
tkgc includes TCL scripts (duh) and C++ source code for TCL
extensions.
on my current (RedHat 5.1) system I can build the TCL extensions
(gogame.so and goboard.so) but they fail to load due to unresolved
externals.
at first the problem was the unresolved external:
__builtin_new
After reading Frank Pilhofer's "Making C++ loadable modules work", I
fetched Frank's tclobj-1.2 package, compiled _builtin.c (which defines
a __builtin_new function) and linked this into my gogame.so. Now when
I try loading gogame.so I get __eh_pc as an undefined external
% load ./gogame.so.2.0
couldn't load file "./gogame.so.2.0": ./gogame.so.2.0:
undefined symbol: __eh_pc
has anyone fixed/solved this problem yet?
I'm really amazed that C++ dynamically loadable TCL extnesion used to
work (on RedHat 4.1 -- pre glibc linux) and are now broken.
In case your curious I'll mention that gogame.so does call the C++
"new" function but it doesn't call any stream IO functions.
I look forward to your replies,
Cheers,
Jonathan Cano
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From: COMPUTERCRAFT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux USENET Archive At COMPUTERCRAFT
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 16:36:28 -0500
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 25 Dec 1998 20:09:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hoyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Floyd Davidson wrote in message <7600c7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>Peter Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Rich Grise wrote:
>>>
>>>> /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:.
>>>>
>>>> what else do you need?
>>>
>>>/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin
>>>
>>
>>It probably should be mentioned that normal users do not
>>need the sbin directories in their PATH.
>
>
>As more and more users migrate to Linux using it as a stand-alone desktop
>OS, the more you'll see requests like this and the braoder the definition of
>"normal user" will become.
>
>Perhaps the solution would be for the unorthodox programs to install a link
>in a directory that would already be in the path.
Which programs in the sbin directories would "normal" users want
in their path?
Generally speaking, only root needs (or can use) programs that are
installed in the sbin directories.
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 25 Dec 1998 20:03:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Richard Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:.
>>>
>>>what else do you need?
>>
>>I would personally also like to run everything that is in /usr/local/bin,
>>plus I happen to like ${HOME}/bin too on systems where I don't do the
>>systems admin, plus there are other programs that sometimes end up in
>>/usr/local directories other than bin, for example /usr/local/netpbm
>>and /usr/local/teTeX. Plus there is a /usr/local/sbin too.
>>
>>And then there are the X bin directories. And odd programs that
>>want to go in /opt which are too much trouble trying to reconfigure...,
>>or whatever...
>
>What I do in cases like this is to install the stuff wherever is convenient
>and then put symbolic links to the executables into /usr/local/bin, to the
>manpages into /usr/local/man, and so on.
I mentioned that, but I also mentioned that you don't even want to think
about doing that with /usr/local/netpbm... or a few others that are not
designed to make it easy. (I would suggest XEmacs as an example of how
it should be done.)
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Infringement of the GPL
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 14:53:29 -0600
steve mcadams wrote:
>
<snip>
> Couldn't this guy have ratted them out to FSF and let them do the
> lawsuit? Or is that not part of FSF 's charter? -steve
I agree.
I did my graduate work on anti-cancer metabolites. The subject of my
thesis was 3-Amino-3,4-diHydro-1-HydroxyCarboStyril. It didn't turn out
to be a rubber hotdog that a cancel cell would eat and then starve, but
it did turn out to be a broad spectrum anti-biotic active at 1-2 gammas
per ml. I did the work on a Welch Foundation Scholarship and part of it
was that the results would be in the public domain, which it is. Later,
however, a promenient pharmicutical company "improved it" and then
patented it and began selling it. (30 years ago). That ticked me off.
It is grand theft.
My point:
Academics who develop things on public money and keep certian aspects of
their work secret, then form their own companies, "do some work" and
claim new discoveries that they patent are doing nothing more that
stealing via an elaborate scam. ALL works derived from public funded
research should always be in the public domain. The same goes for
companies that *pirate* works in the public domain. Software companies
that take GPL code and incorporate it into "propriatary" software are
nothing less than thieves. All such developed code is by law, which
they agreed to honor when they used the GPL code, public domain and
free.
Not sueing them was a BIG mistake. He lost his rights to his own code
and they now own it.
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Torvalds distribution?
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 14:58:59 -0600
steve mcadams wrote:
>
> On Thu, 24 Dec 1998 22:59:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >> ...that includes only the stuff that works?
> >
> >I don't understand what you mean by that. Every Debian package works.
>
> So far I've tried RedHat 5.1 and RedHat 5.2 and both seem to have
> things that simply don't work. I've ordered several other distros but
> the cdrom's are still en-route. -steve
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Tools for programmers: http://www.codetools.com/showcase
I've tried RH 5.0 thru 5.2
All seemed to install and run fine. Only a few problems, mostly by me
because I was a newbie.
I then tried SuSE 5.3. Big difference in ease of install and
maintenance. Much smoother and better integrated. YaST is cool.
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: WP8 under RH 5.2 - other than root
Date: 25 Dec 1998 13:14:45 -0800
"Bong Khin Fah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi
>
> I install WP8 as root. It works fine. However, when I login as other user,
> it creates a core file without any other message. Anybody can help me?
FYI, I'll rewrite that in my version of English:
> I installed WP8 as root. It works fine. However, when I login as another user
> it creates a core file without any other message. Can anybody help me?
I'm guessing it's trying to save files in ~/.wprc which only exists for
"root". Maybe "cp -a /root/.wprc ~" would fixed, or you might have to
mess with the file protections. If your non-root user has got a
"LD_LIBRARY_PATH" (or maybe PATH and some others) that WP doesn't like
it could cause problems also. I have to start WP as:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH="" xwp
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Abe Lin)
Subject: Trouble with talk.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:24:22 GMT
Hi,
Installed Redhat5.2, got IP_masquerading working. IP
firewalling, ftp, telnet (/etc/hosts.*) setup, but somehow found that
I CANNOT talk. i.e. If there's user A and B, A cannot talk to user
B even with the correct tty in the talk command line. The data I got:
1. It said "Checking for invitation on caller's machine" after waiting
for other party to respond. And that was it.
2. in /var/log/secure I got:
Dec 25 16:41:57 modemcable125 in.ntalkd[11129]: refused connect from
207.253.96
a couple lines of that.
I'm using shadowed password. Could that be it? pwuncov back,
still futile.
TIA very much. (man pages not much help)
P.S.
My settings on hosts.allow:
ALL: 192.168.0. 127.0.0.
hosts.deny:
ALL:ALL EXCEPT 192.168.0.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Linux equvalent of batch files?
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 11:52:15 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 23 Dec 1998 22:43:58 -0800, Michael Powe...
..and <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #----------------------------------------------------------#
> # Note that this assumes that there's only one `exec' item #
> # in the .xinitrc file. If there's more than one (I don't #
> # know why there would be) it won't work! #
> #----------------------------------------------------------#
Why do you go to the extent of sed(1)ding around in the .xinitrc?
Just make the last line "exec $WINDOWMANAGER", have a default set in .bashrc
and let your selection script change the variable's value.
That's how I do it. But your approach certainly is good, my selector script
(I use 27 different window managers) is more brain-damaged - a huge case
construct with a line for every WM.
mawa
--
Matthias Warkus | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Dyson Spheres for sale!
My Geek Code is no longer in my .signature. It's available on e-mail request.
It's sad to live in a world where knowing how to program your VCR actually
lowers your social status...
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DEL button with X11 3.3.3
Date: 25 Dec 1998 13:29:05 -0800
Karl Esau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Everything is fine except the DEL key (^[[3~) within a XTERM session
> DEL works like back space. So I have to press ^d instead of DEL key,
> which is not so nice if your at the beginning of the command line :(
> XEmacs, Emacs & kedit have no problems with DEL key.
There's some info on the subject in Gary's Encyclopedia at
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/keys.html
"Consistent BackSpace and Delete Configuration" looks most relevant.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: The goal of Open Source
Date: 24 Dec 1998 14:04:15 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kenneth Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> if the open source
> movement reaches its goals this means that all software is built by
> hobbyists who enjoy writing software on their spare time. This means
> that their is no longer a need to hire programmers. Will programming
> become a hobby of what used to be a paying occupation? Is this what the
> Open Source movement is for? Please, someone find a flaw in my reasoning
> so that I may put my mind to rest.
In addition to the other responses to date, I'd like to add the
observation that this reasoning has already been demonstrated to be
false, by the fact that companies like Red Hat, Netscape, and Corel do
hire programmers to write code which is then released under the GPL or
other open-sources licenses. (Red Hat's programmers write utilities like
rpm; Netscape's Mozilla is under the MPL; and Corel is committing
resources to WINE.)
It's also important to realize that goals are not always met. IMHO, it's
unlikely that ALL code will become open source, though it's conceivable
that a majority of it will be. If nothing else, organizations will likely
need to hire programmers to write entirely in-house utilities -- it's hard
to imagine the CIA giving away some sensitive spy-related software! ;-)
There will also be a need for organizations to hire programmers who can be
trusted with confidential data if/when that data is causing an open source
program to misbehave. (In this case the result might be put back into the
original source tree, but the programmer would still have to be hired with
a contract that says s/he doesn't reveal the employees salaries or
whatnot.)
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.users.fast.net/~rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the digit and following word from my address to mail me
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Reasons for me to toss Linux
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 08:29:19 -0600
Leslie Mikesell wrote:
>
> In article <75f1rg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> big security nightmare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >In ten years all that knowledge you build up about linux and/or windows is
> >going to be useless anyway.
>
> What makes you say that? I've got code I wrote in C and shell well
> over 10 years ago running just fine on Linux and I expect it to
> to keep going another 10.
>
There is the PAIN of it, Les.
In the last twenty years, following the PC evolutionary trail, I have
been through about half-a-dozen operating system. I've labored a lot
just porting stuff along. Some was so difficult or got to be such a
pain that all I have left are stacks of printouts.
In hindsite I wished to God I had seen the light about Unix - Linux
years ago.
But, better late than never! I'm only 57, I've got years of computing
left, Lord willing.
The sooner people switch to Linux and it's programming environments the
better off they will be.
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From: "A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: From a linux dummy
Date: 25 Dec 1998 21:09:26 GMT
Have you installed the make rpm? Do this:
rpm -qa | grep make
You should see a package such as
make-xxxxxxxx.rpm
where xxxxxxxxxxxxxx is version info.
-A
On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:50:28 -0500, Sergei Gerasenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have a stupid question. I just installed Linux with the 2.0 kernel and it
: didn't have PPP support. So, according to a Linux book I decided to
: recompile the kernel. The first obstruction I encountered was that I
: couldn't find the compiling program, that is "make". Where the heck can I
: get it? It seems like there are source files for "make" but one needs
: another copy of "make" to compile those source files. Is there a
: ready-to-use copy of "make" somewhere on the net? Are they kernel-version
: sensitive? I have a RedHat distribution.
: Thanx
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Unix vs Windows NT
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 08:35:17 -0600
Stephen So wrote:
>
<snip>
> It is quite clear that NT crashes more often that not. In terms of viruses,
> well even a 1986 virus that infects the MBR can bring the whole NT system down
> (Heard of the 'Remote Explorer' virus quite recently?).
Remote Explorer has nothing on Internet Exploder. With friends like IE
who needs RE?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: setup Linux partitions
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 20:56:04 GMT
"Simon Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|* 0.7 GB partition for Linux that includes:
| - 48 MB swap partition
| - 62 MB root partition
| - 60 MB /usr/src partition
| - 530 MB /usr partition
|
|What do you think about these values?
A 62 MB / filesystem that includes /tmp and /var is likely to get
full if large log files or temporary files are made.
One large / + swap makes it less likely that a filesystem will get
full (while some other filesystem has plenty of space), but can make
it harder to deal with if the whole thing does get full.
There are some advantages with multiple filesystems (e.g. /, swap,
/tmp, /var, /var/tmp, /usr, /home), but one has to be knowledgeable
about one's disk usage or have plenty of disk space to be generous
with the filesystem sizes to avoid the disadvantages. Advantages
include limiting writes to / and /usr (less chance of damage in a
crash, /usr can be mounted read only most of the time), security (users
cannot do denial of service or log stopping attacks as easily by
writing things into /tmp or /var/tmp), ability to do more effective
filesystem tuning, and smaller dump / restore backup chunks. The
disadvantage (more likely on a small disk, and with a less experienced
system administrator) is that one can run out of space on one partition
while still having plenty of space elsewhere.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: things I'd pay to have developed for Linux...
Date: 24 Dec 1998 09:16:58 -0600
In article <75rqqs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kyler Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Is samba usable over modem lines?
>
>It's much more reasonable than NFS.
>
>>Ssh does its own port redirection,
>>so what is the advantage of the above over:
>> ssh -C -L137:remote:137 -L139:remote:139 remote
>>then running the smb client against your local host and being transparently
>>passed to the remote?
>
>no need to authenticate again
Oh, the clients I use do this transparently so I wouldn't have considered
it an issue.
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 25 Dec 1998 21:39:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 24 Dec 1998 23:36:05 -0600,
Rich Grise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sayeth...:
>Anthony Ord wrote:
>[...]
>> Besides, if all you want to do is store a value, use symbolic links.
>> Nothing in the rules that says they have to point to anything.
>[...]
>
>Create a link that doesn't point to anything? How do you do that?
>If you don't mind my asking.
>It sounds like a pretty cool way to store little items with almost
>infinitesimal access times!
ln -s a b
if a doesn't exist, b doesn't care, you can ls -l b, to see what it
points to, even though what it points too isn't there.
>
>Cheers!
>--
>Rich Grise
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>(No need to putz around with my e-mail - I have a "DELETE" button!)
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Jim Richardson
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Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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