Linux-Misc Digest #467, Volume #18 Mon, 4 Jan 99 18:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: 3c905B running DHCP in Red Hat 5.1 (Allen Wong)
Re: Why no ksh on RH5.2 ? (Charles Stroom)
FreeBSD binaries on Redhat 5.2 (George Matey)
Re: Requesting opinions on UPS /w Linux driver? (Gary Momarison)
Re: what are hardlinks for? (Frank Sweetser)
Re: Infringement of the GPL (NF Stevens)
Re: limits of ext2-filesystem? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
WP8/Linux language modules? (John Girash)
Duplicating partitions with Ghost ("Colin Chaplin")
Questions regarding plotting packages (Ramin Sina)
Re: help me choose license (Byron A Jeff)
SOLUTION AT LAST: rvplayer as helper app in Redhat-5.2 (David Fox)
Full Duplex Audio ? (Thomas Huber)
Re: grep to a tab (Daniel Buettner)
Re: SCSI controller (DC-390U) not detected at boot up (Michael Meissner)
Re: colored ls list (Tim Kelley)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Anthony Ord)
Re: Install Redhat on PC without CDROM drive? (Jeremy Mathers)
Getting the C compiler working ("Paul Davies")
Re: Why no ksh on RH5.2 ? (John)
Re: Re: StarOffice 5.0 for Linux - the end of MS Windows (Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal'
von Bidder)
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From: Allen Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,rec.models.railroad,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: 3c905B running DHCP in Red Hat 5.1
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 08:24:36 -0800
Edgar,
You need to upgrade the 3Com 905 driver. Here's what the relevant
passage of my dmesg output shows:
3c59x.c:v0.99E 5/12/98 Donald Becker
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Stroom)
Subject: Re: Why no ksh on RH5.2 ?
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:42:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 11:40:34 +0800, Y W Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have some korn shell script use under RH 5.1
>
>However I cannot find ksh under RH 5.2
>
>Any one can help ?
>
>
>Y W Wong
>
>
I have it (and use it) on RH5.1:
$> which ksh
/bin/ksh
$> ls -l /bin/ksh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 162628 Apr 27 1998 /bin/ksh
I could not find an RPM package "ksh-xxx.rpm" however, not on 5.1, nor
on 5.2, but I installed from RH5.1 original disc.
--
Charles Stroom
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.stroom-schreurs.demon.nl/
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From: George Matey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FreeBSD binaries on Redhat 5.2
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 11:21:27 -0500
In the latest (12/1/98) "Linux+FreeBSD" mini-HOWTO, the
author states that iBCS was old and unmaintained.
Checking rpmfind.net, I see that there is a iBCS built
on 9/2/98 v2.0-15 for OpenLinux.
Should I be able to use this RPM with RH?
(I doubt it, but would like a second opinion).
I am trying to get a FreeBSD binary that uses shared libs
to run on Linux (RH 5.2) using iBCS without much luck.
Has anyone gotten FreeBSD binaries that use shared libs
to run under Linux? What distribution? What ver of iBCS?
Any pointers will be appreciated.
--
George
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Requesting opinions on UPS /w Linux driver?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 08:46:17 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Snyder) writes:
See Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/ups.html
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what are hardlinks for?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 16:39:43 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
> It was the Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:38:23 +0100...
> ..and Thomas Schulzev-Velmede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi *,
> >
> > what are hardlinks for?
> > Where do I NEED them?
>
> I'm wondering myself.
the short answer:
a hard link is the directory entry that contains the data for filename ->
inode mapping.
the long answer:
take a typical unix filesystem. to get a the contents of a file, you start
off by opening up a filename, say foo. so, the open() function (or some
variant thereof) passes this filename down to the filesystem code. the
filesystem code opens up the appropriate directory, and searches each entry
for the requested filename. if it doesn't find it, it returns an error,
otherwise it continues on.
now, that directory entry doesn't contain any of the actual information
about the file. all it contains is the filename, and an inode number. an
inode (Information NODE) contains all of the metadata about the file - it's
size, permissions, timestamps, etc. when the open() call returns a
filehandle, the filehandle refers indirectly to this inode, not to the
filename. this directory entry that points to the inode is a hard link.
this layering has some interesting useful effects. first off is that once
you've got the open filehandle to the file, you don't need the filename or
the directory entry anymore. so, you can open() a file, delete it, and
keep on using it normally. once no one has it open anymore, the inode will
then be freed, and only then will the file actually be gone. also, you can
have as many hardlinks pointing to an inode as you want.
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.0pre3 i586 | at public servers
How do I type "for i in *.dvi do xdvi i done" in a GUI?
(Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of interfaces.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Infringement of the GPL
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:02:27 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens) writes:
>>>be argued. However the courts are loath to interpret agreement
>>>toowidely, or else my contract with you in which you agreed to only ever
>>>enter the bathroom backwards, and to which you gave explicit consent by
>>>replying to my message, would be deemed a valid contract.
>
>>There is no contract. You gave nothing of value. Publishing your
>>post on the internet where it is freely available for anyone to
>>download and read implies that you consider there to be
>>value in that post.
>
>My contract was not with you but with the original poster. I offered him
>something of value, my post and he clearly considered it of value. The
>fact that I give it away to others does not mean that I cannot charge
>him for it. He
>offered me something of value, his time in replying, and he clearly read
>the offer, and the condition that this reply was an acceptance of my
>contract. He replied. The contract stands. (At least I assume from the
>rest of your post that that is how you would argue.)
Upon further consideration I would offer the following.
Whether your post has or does not have value is irrelevant;
by publishing it on the internet you have effectively given it
away and cannot later ask for something in return.
As to the reply; Floyd already had the right to reply
to your message so replying to your message cannot
be taken to be assent to any contract. An action,
such as using someone else's GPL'd code in your
own product, can only be taken to be the acceptance
of an offer if it something they would not be allowed
to do if they had not accepted the offer.
>
>>not bind you to anything. If you do not like the program or the
>>terms of the license you can delete it from your system without
>>any further consequence. Using the software implies that you
>>have accepted the offer and a contract is made.
>
>As did his reply to my post. He has accepted my offer and the contract
>is made. (again according to your own arguments).
Your offer was that if Floyd did something he was perfectly
entitled to do (i.e. reply to your post) he must pay some
penalty. This is no basis for a contract since you have
provided nothing of value in exchange for his change
of behaviour.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: limits of ext2-filesystem?
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:41:02 +0000
Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I read your response on ext filesystem.
: But the problem isn't the size of the partitionb but the size of a sibgle
: file can't be bigger than 2GB. I haven't had a file of 2Gigs on Linux yet
: but I think if this true that this is a serious problem for databases.
Files of over 2 GB can be handled under Linux on 64 bit architectures (Alpha
& Sparc64). We regularly handle 6 GB files on our Alpha.
--
============================================================================
Richard Simpson
Farnborough, Hants, Uk Fax: 01252 392976
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WP8/Linux language modules?
Date: 4 Jan 1999 21:26:41 GMT
Hi all,
I've been trying to find where Corel has the non-US-English language modules.
According to http://linux.corel.com/linux8/download.htm the "instructions for
downloading and installing" are in linux.corel.com/linux8/install_instr.htm,
but that document mentions nothing about _where_ to find the language module
files -- which kinda obviates the promise of "instructions for downloading".
Does anyone know? Specifically I'd like to find guilgce0.gz . Thanks!
jg
ps. WP8's "README.errata" says "The WordPerfect documentation describes multi-
language capabilities that will become available over time" but given that
instructions are up on the wwwsite, I'm hoping that "over time" has happened.
--
"don't listen when you're told / about the best days in your life : Spirit of
a useless old expression, it means / passing time until you die." : the West
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-- John Girash --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://skyron.harvard.edu/ --
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From: "Colin Chaplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Duplicating partitions with Ghost
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:24:57 -0000
I am sure that a lot of you have heard of ghost - it's an excellent program
that can copy hard disks, partitions etc. I have used it with much sucess
with fat, NTFS etc.
Anyhow, my 500MB drive in my linux machine was getting full-up so I decided
to replace it with a 3 gig drive. Simplest way to do this was to use ghost.
It recognised the linux partition, and would copy it, although not change
the size (like it does with fat etc). Hmm. Ghost also allows partition
duplication if a suitable partition is prepared for it on target drive... so
i created a 2800mb or so linux partition, and the rest as swap. Ghost seemed
happy with it and everything ran smoothly for a few days...
until I get the dreaded 'no more space on device' error msg..
so I run fdisk, thinking that all it's done is reduced the partition back to
500mb or something, so that a big chunk of the disk is still free. I try and
add another partition, and it only allows me to add a 1 block partition -
hence
Command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/hda: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 6296 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 1 5689 2867224+ 83 Linux native
/dev/hda2 5120 5691 6295 304920 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda3 6144 6296 6296 0+ 83 Linux native
Can somebody that is brighter than me explain what the hell is going on ????
AND more importantly, how do I fix it ??
machine is a typical pentium 100 with 64mb ram etc
Cheers
Colin
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From: Ramin Sina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Questions regarding plotting packages
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 16:55:03 -0500
Hi all,
I am in despreate need of a good plotting package that can do log-log
plot with error bars and with flexible format for axis lable and titles
and save the plot as postscript. xmgr might be able to do that, but,
without a manual I am totally lost with it. Is there a good commercial
package for linux that is almost as easy to use as sigmaplot and
kaleidagraph are on win95? Mathematica and matlab plotting routines are
not really that flexible; there is for example no log log plot with
error bars in mathematica 3.0.
On a related note I have a grpahics file generated with SigmaPlot
plotting software on Win95 (with either extension .spw or .prn). I was
told that the prn files are in fact postscript. But I get errors trying
to open them with ghostview. Is there a way to convert these formats to
postscript (.ps file)? I've tried convert (from ImageMagic) of no avail.
GIMP does not recognize it either.
Thanks,
Ramin Sina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: help me choose license
Date: 4 Jan 1999 16:55:24 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
steve mcadams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
-On 2 Jan 1999 20:02:03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
-wrote:
-
->license. See the GPL doesn't prevent someone from selling a copy of the
->code (for a reasonable copying fee I think the license states) It only prevents
->them from hoarding the source code or any additions to it.
-
-The main thing the GPL does from my point of view is that it forces
-any derivative works (products) based on the GPL to be GPL themselves.
-
-
->BTW it does shoot your "sell commercial licenses" in the foot. Any company that
->wanted to could simply take your library and run all they copies they like
->without paying an penny. Their obligation is only to redistribute any mods
->they make to the code.
-
-If cheapbytes sells a billion copies of a CD with my GPL library on
-it, I will be happy for them (they deserve to succeed imho), and happy
-for me. It means that any developer can use my code, and it will
-become an industry standard or not, based -solely- on its competitive
-technical merit.
Good attitude!
-
->The GPL doesn't work here. It gives its users right to redistribute your
->code, either freely or for profit.
-
-It doesn't give anybody the right to use the library in a commercial
-product. That requires a separate license which I understand that I
-am free to sell or not as I choose.
I think I see. However we're picking nits at this point. I think the phrase
"Commercial Product" is confusing because it implies two different ideals:
for profit and closed source. Let's separate the two. A GPL library would not
allow closed source. However A GPL library would allow for 'for profit'
applications but only if they are open source. Basically as long as I GPL my
applications code, I can sell it along with your library for as much as I like.
Of course at that point if you wanted you could do the CheapBytes with my code
and sell it too. The point is that a bunch of people can do the cheapbytes
thing with the GPL version of the library.
I guess I'm just wanting to make sure that you're OK with that... I just seemed
from the initial context of the thread that this aspect bothered you.
Now closed source is very clear: anyone who wants a closed source application
must get another license from you because the GPL disallows it.
-
->As much as it sucks you're going to have to craft your own license that takes
->into account everything you want:
->
->1) Code can be freely used and redistributed for open source applications.
->2) Code can be bundled and redistributed with other OSS software.
->3) Code can be modified either by patches to the original sources or by
-> assignment of modifications to you. More on this point later...
-
-I do not see why GPL does not fit these licensing requirements.
Because I thought that you wanted to disallow the 'for profit' aspect of open
source as well. The GPL allows these sales.
Gotta go. Will respond to part 2 later.
BAJ
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: SOLUTION AT LAST: rvplayer as helper app in Redhat-5.2
Date: 04 Jan 1999 14:09:44 -0800
If you're having trouble getting rvplayer to launch from netscape,
try using the following in the application box for Real Audio instead
of the usual "rvplayer %s":
unset LD_PRELOAD && rvplayer %s
To the real audio people, the back of my hand. This fix is copyright
(c) 1999 by me.
More keywords: real audio, realaudio, realplayer, linux, redhat, 5.2
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Huber)
Subject: Full Duplex Audio ?
Date: 4 Jan 1999 16:36:01 +0100
I run into the following strangeness:
I have a Opti 82c931 soundcard, and it works fine with the
MAD16 driver (I use kernel 2.1.131) after first booting
DOS and setting the card into WSS Mode.
Now a cat /dev/sndstat tells me that the audio device
is DUPLEX. However, when I try it out by typing
cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp it get a 'device or resource busy'.
How can I take advantage of the DUPLEX capabilities ?
(I'd like to use it for real time effects with Csound)
Thomas
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From: Daniel Buettner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: grep to a tab
Date: 4 Jan 1999 16:33:58 GMT
Dave Packard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have not had any luck getting grep to search only the first column of
> a tab delimited database. I have tried grep ^.*\t to no avail - it
> doesn't seem to recognize the \t - am I doing something wrong?
> Or is there a better way to search just the first column of this
> database?
It seems everyone has forgotten about our good friend awk. To find
all occurences of, say 314, in the first column and print the entire
line that the match is found on, all you need to do is
awk '{if($1=="314") print $0}' file.name
That should do the trick.
HTH,
--
~
~
~
"Daniel Buettner" line 4 of 4 --100%--
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From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SCSI controller (DC-390U) not detected at boot up
Date: 04 Jan 1999 14:24:15 -0500
Olivier Perron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've just installed my first SCSI controller (a Tekram DC-390U) and it
> is not detected by my RedHat 5.0 during the boot process.
> It is the first time I add a SCSI controller in my system, so my Linux
> box was not specially configured to use a SCSI controller.
> Do I have to configure something specially ?
> Please help....
I suspect RedHat 5.0 was too old of a release to support the 53c875. In any
case, RedHat 5.2 had no problems recognizing my DC-390U's (1) and DC-390F's (2)
on my two machines. I believe RedHat 5.1 also supported it, but I could be
wrong. Alternatively, if you added the controller after the initial setup, you
may need to monkey with the initrd setup. Since I build my own kernels, I
can't help there.
If you build your own kernel, you want to configure SCSI support in, including
SCSI disks. Then you want to select the NCR53C8XX driver (not the
NCR53C7XX,8XX driver which preceeds it, and doesn't support the 875).
--
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions (Massachusetts office)
4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 617-354-5416 (office), 617-354-7161 (fax)
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From: Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: colored ls list
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 16:07:01 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I just switched to RedHat 5.1 from Slakware'96 (That's what it says on the CD-
> Rom, I don't know what version other than that.), Linux kernel version 2.0.
>
> The one thing that I liked about slakware was that it was configured to have a
> colored view of the files when I do a 'ls' command. The executables would be
> in yellow with a '*' beside it, dirs would be in blue with a '/' beside it,
> etc.
>
> How do I get redhad to do that same thing? I'm sure there's a configuration
> file that I could edit to get the proper settings. My question is, what is
> the path/name of that file, and how do I change it to get those requested
> settings.
If you're using bash, then the files to edit would be ~/.bashrc (for ea
user) or /etc/bashrc
(to make it global).
Just put in the line
alias ls='ls --color'
--
Tim Kelley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
504.243.4682
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:43:01 GMT
On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:25:05 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
wrote:
>
> Hire better staff. A reliable distributed unix enviroment
> is certainly quite feasable.
It is always best not to rely on reliability.(If you can)
Regards
Anthony
--
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|'All kids love log!' |
| Ren & Stimpy |
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Re: Install Redhat on PC without CDROM drive?
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:57:54 GMT
In article <76qhfr$rl9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Happy new year everyone!
>I would like to find out if Redhat Linux would allow me to install
>on a PC which does not have a CDROM drive of its own. The target machine
>is a Siemens-Nixdorf 486 with 8 Mb memory and 500 Mb disk (half DOS,
>half Linux). I do have a laptop with CDROM drive and I can thus copy files
>under Dos from the CD onto the harddrive of the target machine via
>a serial connection.
You can do an FTP installation if you can get networking running
between the two machines. I did this recently where I wanted to
install on machine A, but machine A did not have a working CD drive.
I had a working CD drive on machine B - and had ethernet cards in both
machines. In fact, what I did was to boot DOSLinux (nice product,
BTW) on machine B, and set it up as an FTP server. Then I was able to
do an FTP install (which is supported directly by the Red Hat install
program) on machine A, giving it machine B as the host.
If you don't have (or care to buy) ethernet cards, you can probably
get SLIP working. Good luck... Read the HOW-TOs...
>The reason to consider Redhat is it's alleged ease of installation.
>I have been able to install Slackware but without X-Windows. I could not
>get X-Windows working. The Slackware X installation does not give much
>help if things don't go right. Is this much better with Redhat??
I have nothing but good things to say about RedHat. It "just works".
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From: "Paul Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Getting the C compiler working
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:04:38 -0800
Hi There
I've just installed RedLinux 5.2 and need to use the C compiler to rebuild
Perl.
The Configure script which runs the Perl build keeps saying the C compiler
is not working. I've definitely installed the package because when I type
cc or gcc at the command line it is recognised.
Is there any other configuration I need to do to get it working?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Paul
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why no ksh on RH5.2 ?
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 16:57:50 -0500
Charles Stroom wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 11:40:34 +0800, Y W Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have some korn shell script use under RH 5.1
> >
> >However I cannot find ksh under RH 5.2
> >
> >Any one can help ?
> >
> >
> >Y W Wong
> >
> >
>
> I have it (and use it) on RH5.1:
> $> which ksh
> /bin/ksh
> $> ls -l /bin/ksh
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 162628 Apr 27 1998 /bin/ksh
>
> I could not find an RPM package "ksh-xxx.rpm" however, not on 5.1, nor
> on 5.2, but I installed from RH5.1 original disc.
>
> --
> Charles Stroom
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> url: http://www.stroom-schreurs.demon.nl/
Well, the reason that ksh doesn't usually come with RedHat, especially if you
have the free version, is because ksh is a commercial product, but there is a
free version of it that comes on RedHat called pdksh (Public Domain Korn
SHell) that should work.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Re: StarOffice 5.0 for Linux - the end of MS Windows
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 22:18:42 GMT
On Mon, 4 Jan 1999 20:04:11 +0000, Mark Worsdall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, where can I check what mem is being seen and used where, my messages
>file states:-
>
>
>kernel: Memory: 63152k/65536k available (740k kernel code, 384k
>reserved, 1260k data)
>
>kernel: Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size
Not sure if it really takes mem if it isn't used, but probably you
won't use the ramdisk driver enabled in your kernel.
--
Greets from over there
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EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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With, of course, the exception of bad news. -- D. Adams
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