Linux-Misc Digest #597, Volume #18               Wed, 13 Jan 99 09:13:17 EST

Contents:
  Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Bill Anderson)
  Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Bill Anderson)
  Re: CONCLUSIVE PROOF: Jesus *is* King of the Jews  !  !   !' (Mark8467)
  Re: spreadsheet for Linux (Victor Wagner)
  Re: suid root (Victor Wagner)
  Re: Missing memory?  Not reading (Victor Wagner)
  Re: DOSEMU and the CDROM drive (Victor Wagner)
  Re: [Q] script to start suid prog (Victor Wagner)
  Re: i386 binaries (Victor Wagner)
  Re: compiler for linux (Victor Wagner)
  Re: newbie home network question (Victor Wagner)
  Re: Statement of Bill Neukom As Government Rests Its Case (Richard Jones)
  Re: dump program for Slackware (Victor Wagner)
  Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (Jay Copeland)
  Re: Statement of Bill Neukom As Government Rests Its Case ("Netnerd")
  Linux and mail client for Exchange (Gene Senyszyn)
  Re: Can't find modem (Julius Gehr)
  Re: 2038 and Linux (Christopher Browne)
  Re: WP 8.0 Converting Word 97 files (Asif Chowdhury)
  Re: Mailserver on lan problem (Josh Rusko)
  Re: newest devel kernel 2.3.0? (Christopher Browne)

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From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:58:41 -0700

"Omni²" wrote:
> 
> Tim Trainor wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Omni² wrote:

...

> > >LOL. Now here's a statement worth arguing about, but since you're so hot
> in
> > >programming, try recompiling the NT kernel to leave out support for
> PCMCIA
> > >cards. It can be a little tricky, but since you're such a programmer it
> > >shouldn't be a problem.
> >
> > would you like some help in that dept?
> > its not as hard as you think
> > once your used to it
> > I guess the same arguement goes for unix
> 
>> So you are implying you've done this?  More BS.  Where did you get the
>> source?
> 
> no of course not , I never mentioned source
> but NT is  configuarable , you just need to know how


Recompiling a kernel requires the sources, thus the sources were
mentioned in the original question.
Changing a few config options in NT is not the same as compiling a
kernel.

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From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:09:52 -0700

"Omni²" wrote:
> 
> Peter Schüller wrote in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >"Omni²" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> 
> >I submit that it's a FACT that Linux is "better" than DOS.
> >Name one thing DOS can do that Linux can't.
> >
> 
> I'm thinking...........
> 1)use debug straight from install  (am I right? I'm sure you'll let me know)

gdb can be the first command you issue if you like.

> 2)turn the power switch off without fucking the system

I can,and have, done this is Linux many times.

> 3)make bill gates rich

Unless you agree that win9x is dos with a gui, dos will not make bgates
any richer. Even then, Since he *is* rich, it could not *make* him rich.
 
> well you said one
> I think #3 counts  , yes?

nope.

Bill

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark8467)
Crossposted-To: 
rec.music.hip-hop,rec.models.rc.air,rec.woodworking,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,rec.sport.soccer,rec.travel.europe,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.software.year-2000,alt.prophecies.nostradamus,alt.prophecies.cayce,alt.astrology,sci.astrology.hindu,sci.astrology.misc
Subject: Re: CONCLUSIVE PROOF: Jesus *is* King of the Jews  !  !   !'
Date: 13 Jan 1999 00:25:39 GMT

Your math on this is way off.  I am not even going to start.  Oh, heck here is
one, Julian days are only the first three numbers the rest of the placesetting
are the times.  You give different dates with the same julian date.  Get a
education!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Subject: Re: spreadsheet for Linux
Date: 12 Jan 1999 22:37:01 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Brandon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,

: I have a P100 laptop with 16 megs of RAM and 25 swap.  I installed SO
: 5.0 on it to use the spreadsheet and the first time I ran it it was
: very slow, which makes sense considering the amount of RAM I have.  I
: ran TOP in an xterm and the ram was all gone and I believe the swap
: was just about taken up too.  So I was wondering if there was a
: program that has about the same power and functionality of Excel.   I

WHat part of spreadsheet functionality you need? 
Basically, when thinking about spreadsheet I'm thinking about 
visual editor for numbers with some numeric analysis functions,
good formula support etc. The simplier interface is the better -
just like good old Lotus 1-2-3 2.01.

For this kind of spreadsheets, you can try one of sc derivatives: ss
slsc, vote
or oleo  (from FSF). I don't like oleo, becouse it is very EMACS-styled,
but if you use Emacs, you'll find it nice. 
These are curses-based spreadsheets, and of course they are not too
resource-hungry.

If you think of spreadsheet as of tool for making nice graphical
reports, look to WingZ or XessLite. WingZ run just fine on 486DX2 with
20Mb. I've abandoned it only becouse it doesn't support cyrillic fonts.
Siag is also interesting choice. It has both curses and GUI version, and
is highly customizable (if you know Scheme)




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Subject: Re: suid root
Date: 12 Jan 1999 23:16:21 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

M. Buchenrieder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob) writes:
: This does not work that way, since the Linux shells will ignore the
: SUID bit, unless the shell itself is setUID-aware. If you have to do
: it that way (which is bad), use sperl . Otherwise, use "su" or "sudo"
It is not so bad, if you KNOW, how to write suid scripts -
read the Camel book (Programming Perl, 2nd Edition), and always
put -T at the end of first line

#!/usr/bin/perl -T

(or even -wT)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Subject: Re: Missing memory?  Not reading
Date: 12 Jan 1999 23:23:19 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(BXTC) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,
: I am running RedHat 5.1 3.0.34 and I had 64m ram running on a P166MMX. 
: I recently took 36m ram more out of another machine and installed it
: into this one.  When I boot it reads 96m ram so I figured it was all
: working fine.  I was disappointed when I didn't see any performance
: enhancement.  Recently I ran top and saw that it only showed 64
: available.  Then I ran free and it showed the same.  Does anyone know
: what I have done wrong/or didn't do?  Do I have to read some kind of
: programs to tell linux I have more memory than when I installed it? This
: is my first memory upgrade in linux so I am working on little
: experience.  Thanks for your time/and hopefully your response, 

Now, since 2.0.36 kernel was out, there are two answers to this
question.

1. Upgrade your kernel to 2.0.36 (just download sources from
ftp.kernel.org, compile and install. No need to hunt for RPMS, although
it might be helpful, if you are afraid of _recompiling_ _the_ _kernel)

2. Read BOOT-Prompt-HOWTO, find out that you need kernel command-line
attribute mem=96M and read man lilo for append command in lilo.conf,
which would let you to specify this parameter permanently.
(This answer was given here uncountable number of times, so guy who
suggested searching the newsgroup was partially right, But he forgot
or didn't know about answer No 1)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Subject: Re: DOSEMU and the CDROM drive
Date: 12 Jan 1999 23:28:24 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dustin Puryear ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I am using DOSEMU v0.98.2 and have it working. However, I am not able to
: get games running that require that you have the CD inserted. IOW, I am
: getting a message along the lines of "You must insert the CD into the
: CDROM to play this game." I used lredir to mount the cdrom under the
: drive letter that it uses in DOS to no effect. Anyone have any ideas how
: to solve this?

May be you need to use DOSEMU-supplied cdrom.sys + mscdex, becouse these
games want CD-ROM label rather than just particular file on CD.
Read DOSEMU docs for these.

: One more problem is that the keyboard doesn't work in some programs. For
: instance, if I want to play acid tetris (the all time best tetris game),
: I am unable to input anything and have to kill the window. Solutions? I
: read the documentation and tried to allow direct access to the keyboard.
: This didn't help.

Have you turned raw keyboard on? 

: Regards, Dustin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Subject: Re: [Q] script to start suid prog
Date: 12 Jan 1999 23:31:48 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Vladik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello,
: I cannot figure out how to write a script to start a program
: from my user account when a program requires root priv. to start.
: Basically I use XISP to connect to internet, this front end
: uses ppp underneath, every time I log in to my system, I have
: to first su and then start xisp.  I would rather have
: a small command I just type (or better yet click an icon) and
: it would connect.

put following script on the icon

xterm -geometry 20x2 -T "Root paswd:" -e su -c xisp
or
xterm -geometry 20x2 -T "Your paswd:" -e sudo xisp

Or, in case of this particular program, set up dial-on-demand
(man pppd if your pppd is 2.3.5 or later, otherwise get diald)
and forget forever that you, _as_ _user_ have something to do with
internet connection, save clicking on the some link in netscape.

: Thanks in advance for any info,
: Vladislav
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Subject: Re: i386 binaries
Date: 12 Jan 1999 23:46:40 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sérgio Vale e Pace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,

:       Where can I find GCC, binutils, etc pre-compiled binaries for i386, The
: HOWTOs I've lokked tell to go at metalab.unc... and prep.ai... and
: didn't find-it

Where you get your distribution from? Each distribution of Linux
includes ready-to install packages of all this stuff.
If you have CD, mount it, start your package manager, and go to 
"Development" section.

If not, go to that very ftp site your distribution come from, i.e.
ftp.redhat.com, ftp.debian.org, ftp.suse.de etc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: compiler for linux
Date: 13 Jan 1999 00:05:26 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Brandon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,

: I have just been informed that I have to have Borland Turbo C
: Assembler program for my Engineering 2 class.  I have my laptop setup
: with Linux for compiling stuff. The professor says that if we do the
: programs on our own computers that they have to work on the schools
: computers b/c thats part of the grade. So I need to know if I make a
: program using C in linux and compile with gcc if it would work once I
: put it on a win95 machine? I know that I woul dhave to convert  the
: executable from either a.out or elf format to .exe which Win95 uses,
: which I would also need to knwo how to do that.


Really, you should have no trouble to run Borland C (at least up to 3.1)
under DOSEMU - if your school allows you to copy it from school.
Basically Borland license does permit such things.

You can write a program which would work equally good under Linux with
gcc and DOS/Windows with Borland C.

Actually I've developed some rather useful programs interchangingly with
 GCC and Turbo C 2.0.  (And then some guy suggested me to use snprintf
 instead of sprintf for better protection from potential exploit)

So, you should have copy of reference manual (On-line help would be
enough) to avoid using library functions which are not available under
DOS/Win.

Other time I've developed Tcl extension under Unix, than copied it to
Win machine and just with few mouse clicks produced a DLL for Windows
with BC 4.5.

Note that Borland C before 4 was particulary picky about end-of-lines
So, you have to run your source through something like todos or unix2dos
(or just sed "s/\$/\r/") before copiing them to windows.

Gcc cares not about DOS style line ending except when you use \ 
at the end of line for line continuation in #define. 


 
: If compiling it wont allow it to work on a win95 machine using gcc,
: would it be possible to use some sort of Borland program on linux so
: that it will work a win95 machine? ? Which if it is possible I would
: need to know if there is such a program available, hopefully free.

: The main goal of this is to be able to use my laptop which i
: specifically put linux on it so that i could make programs for school
: and at the same time get away with not having to pay $50 or whatever
: for Borland Turbo C assembler for Win95.

: Thanks
: Brandon

: --
:                               Member of the Elite Hacker Club

: "Bill Gates?, I dont know any Bill Gates.  Oh, you mean 'by putting
: every conceivable
:  feature into an OPERATING SYSTEM, whether you want it or not, is
: innovation' Bill
:  Gates? Yeah, I know the monopolizer."

:                        http://web.mountain.net/~brandon/main.htm
:          For Beginners in Linux, Emulation, Midis, Playstation Info,
: Virii, and to buy
:                books from barnesandnoble.com on any info that's on my
: site.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Subject: Re: newbie home network question
Date: 12 Jan 1999 23:56:43 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

David Boldt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:   I am trying to set up a home network based
: on ethernet.  The system is also connected
: sporatically to the internet via PPP.  Is
: there an IP domain range that would be advisable?

: Does it make any difference?   I don't want to
: collide with any existing network, but I don't
: think I can register anything in DNS.

Read NET-2-HOWTO. It is the first thing to do anyway.
Really there are three ranges of IP reserved for things like yours:

10.x.x.x.x
176.16.x.x (I can mistake here)
192.168.x.x

So, pick an arbitrary number in range 0-255, say m
and use addresses
from 192.168.m.1 to 192.168.m.254 for your computers
192.168.m.0 would be your network address and 192.168.m.255 your
broadcast address.

Note, that ppp interface which connects one of your computers to
internet would have totally different IP address - IP addresses are
assigned to interfaces, rather than computers, so if you have three
network cards in one box, it would have at least three IP addresses
(not counting 127.0.0.1)

Only that IP,(which is probably would given to you by your provider
dynamically) would be visible from outside, so you should set up either
IP Masqerading or proxy server to let other computers from network to
get to internet. Really this is not neccessary. If all of them run
linux, you can just always start all network-related apps on one which
physically has connection to internet. It is what X window and rlogin
are for.

: remove the ".UNSPAM to reply"
: -- 
:             --david boldt  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

:   "A lie is halfway around the world 
:    before the truth gets its boots on."
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From: Richard Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Statement of Bill Neukom As Government Rests Its Case
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:48:10 +0000

Chris Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>In article <#zRVoioP#GA.146@upnetnews03>,

     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
     ---------------------

: You don't actually think that people took something posted from MSN.COM 
: seriously, do you?

This guy trolls a whole load of newsgroups with
a new message every few weeks. Some of the newsgroups
are relevant (the advocacy groups), but some of
the groups he trolls are totally irrelevant, eg.
uk.comp.os.linux, comp.os.linux.misc and gnu.misc.discuss.

The best thing to do is to add him to your killfile.
Various complaints to MSN.COM have gone unheeded,
presumably coz the guy works for Microsoft or
something, employeed to keep Linux people busy
arguing rather than coding :-)

Rich.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Subject: Re: dump program for Slackware
Date: 12 Jan 1999 23:26:16 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

mct1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: i'm trying to find / and config dump for backup's on Linux, anyone know
: where i might find a source(s) for this....? I have doc's, but nothing
: specific to Linux (:>(

may be it is named dumpe2fs?
Mount your distribution CD and do
find /cdrom -name "dump*.tgz"


At least metalabs.unc.edu (former sunsite) is always your friend.


: Thanksabunch!
: Pat Donahue

: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Jay Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:34:59 +0000

nic wrote:
> 
> Has any-one ever tried to buy a PC without windoze on it?
> franzl
> 

I build machines and I only put windows on them if that's what the end
customer wants.  The last machine I put together was a dual-boot
win311/linux machine.

I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one left.

Jay

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From: "Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Statement of Bill Neukom As Government Rests Its Case
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:47:36 -0500
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux


David Steuber wrote in message ...
>Netnerd, I gotta ask you one question.  Why would a Microsoft
>spokesperson use such a silly pseudonim?  You represent your company
>poorly.  Or is this like a football game for you?  You aren't really a
>Microsoft employee, it is just your favorite teem?


I am not and never have been a Microsoft employee.

I don't even go to their seminars.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gene Senyszyn)
Subject: Linux and mail client for Exchange
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 06:22:04 GMT

I'm in the process of covertly adding Linux onto my (normally) NT
Workstation at work, so that I can show it can do all the things we
need it to do for a workstation....

Where I'm having a problem, is we run MS Exchange Server 5.0 on our
network, and POP3 is not set up.  Is there a mail client that I can
use to connect to it? 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julius Gehr)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Can't find modem
Date: 12 Jan 1999 20:05:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 00:38:43 GMT, 
Rob Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Donald Hurst  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I have a NewCom 56K Plug 'n Play modem which works just fine under
>>Windows 95 on Comm 4.  Under RedHat Linux 5.2 I can't seem to get a
>>dialtone.  I have tried Comm 1 thru Comm 4 using minicom and can't get a
>>sound.

Plug 'n Play and Linux...
Sounds like isapnp-tools.
Have you tried them?
Julius

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: 2038 and Linux
Date: 13 Jan 1999 02:21:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 8 Jan 1999 22:55:22 GMT, William Burrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: 
>On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 17:26:11 +1030,
>Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I fully expect the 2038 problem to be fixed on i386 Linux
>>with five years, and that no effort greater than the libc/glibc
>>migration will be needed for this to happen.
>>
>>Thus in the year 2038 we will only have to worry about
>>Linux machines greater than 25 years old.  Even embedded
>>computing systems tend not to be in service this long.
>
>True, but some ARCHITECTURES have been around for as long.  The venerable
>IBM/360 design, for example, is pushing 35 this year and still in production
>as the IBM/390.
>
>OTOH, I also see no real need to rush the job on i386, as Intel is hinting
>at a new design (Merced).  It does remain to be seen whether the i386 
>survives as long as the 360, but you certainly don't want to cut off future
>users for no good reason.

I would argue that the IA-32 architecture (which includes 80386, 80486,
"Pentium," "Xeon," AMD K5 and K6, IDT WinChip, and Cyrix) is not likely
to be immediately displaced by Merced, because:

a) Merced is predicted to be *very* expensive and not faster than other
64 bit designs at least in early days;

b) Merced is a proprietary design for which there will be no competition
any time soon.  There are no "second sources" for Merced, unlike the
situation with IA-32 where you can buy independently designed CPUs from
as many as five vendors. 

Note that the "lack of competition" situation "bites" *all* of the 64
bit architectures out there.  There may be multiple chip foundries
building Alphas, for instance, but they're all dependent on a single
group of design engineers at Digital/Compaq.
-- 
Microsoft: The Scientology of Computing
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From: Asif Chowdhury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WP 8.0 Converting Word 97 files
Date: 13 Jan 1999 13:44:17 GMT

I have the same problem.
Asif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Matthew Olson wrote:

> I am having problems converting Word 97 documents into Word Perfect docs.
> It correctly identifies them and then says Filtrix unable to convert document.
> I did a full install.  Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Matt Olson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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From: Josh Rusko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.smail
Subject: Re: Mailserver on lan problem
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:20:54 -0500

as for not being to pop from another host (on the LAN?), I had the same problem
with netscape and M$ Outlook users. Replace your popd with qpopper...do an ftp
search...I DLed it like 2 weeks ago but I can't remember from where
not being able to send mail out...do you have a registered hostname for the
mail server? most (all?) servers will not accept mail that is from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], or from a host that is not found via DNS. they assume it
is SPAM. Get the server listed in DNS somewhere. Even the services like
www.dynip.com and www.tzo.com are sufficient to send/recieve mail through the
internet.
Good luck...I hope this helps

Adam Finkelstein wrote:

> Hello. I am having an exasperating problem and I have the docs and
> resources to pour over, but I thought I'd query Usenet and see if anyone
> has a quick answer for me.
>
> Here's my problem: I have a linux machine with 2.0.* compiled with etho and
> am set up on a lan. I am able to telnet from this machine to other hosts
> and use a web browser. I can use mutt to pop my mail from a remote pop
> server. I cannot get my mail from the server that resides on the lan. I
> have smail up and running. I have tried the ip addresses of the mail
> machine that work on the lan in Windoze95, and have even tried to pop to it
> using the pop name/ip address. Nothing. I cannot send mail out either.
>
> What am I missing here? Since the mail server is on the lan, is there
> something I need to set in the /etc/smail/config file?
>
> Here's the ip address of the mail server that works, via netscape, on a
> win95 machine: 10.10.254.13
> The same serve outside the firewall is 159.189.39.19  Does anyone have an
> idea why I cannot connect to send mail out? What do I need to tweak in
> smail?
>
> thanks,
> Adam
> --
> Adam Finkelstein
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://metalab.unc.edu/bees/adamf


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: newest devel kernel 2.3.0?
Date: 13 Jan 1999 02:21:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 06 Jan 1999 20:53:05 -0500, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>where is the newest devel kernel 2.3.0?  i see 2.2.0pre4 is out but
>where do i go for the bleeding edge?

You won't find it until there is a "2.2.0" version that omits the "pre"
stuff.

In effect, 2.2.0pre[most-recent] *is* the "bleeding edge" right now. 

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