Linux-Misc Digest #597, Volume #19 Thu, 25 Mar 99 08:13:12 EST
Contents:
ess1869 sound issue ("Gavin Maxwell")
Re: EGCS and KDE/Qt (Kelly Burkhart)
Re: HELP! Need data from BAD Floopy! (Moritz Barsnick)
Re: microsoft bus mouse (Peter Onion)
traceroute 10.1.1.2=> 10.1.1.1 .323ms !H .238ms !H (Kishore)
Re: Public license question (Lynn Winebarger)
Re: What is the best Linux to install? (Joe Keane)
Dual boot WinNT and RH Linux (yaowe ong)
Re: queuing of sendmail / fetchmai (Darren Durbin)
Ext2fs details and creating a fs in a file (for mounting using loopback) (Simon
Thornton)
tcpip s/w pkg source? (M Sweger)
can't read mail from netscape ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Dual boot WinNT and RH Linux (LETOT Rémi)
using telnet instead of login for terminals ("Stephen M. Waite")
VPN for linux/NT (yan seiner)
Re: 2.2.3 doesn't like my HDD (Rob Fisher)
Need Help: Complicated situation (Jan Buckow)
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From: "Gavin Maxwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ess1869 sound issue
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 18:43:07 +1000
I'm having trouble with my ess1869 ISA sound card in Red Hat 5.2. When the
box boots, messages appear to the screen saying that the device or resource
is busy. Can anyone help? Is the card partly faulty?
thanks
gavin
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: EGCS and KDE/Qt
From: Kelly Burkhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 Mar 1999 20:34:43 -0600
David Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Johan Groth wrote:
> >
> > Try the following ftp-link:
> > ftp://rawhide.redhat.com/i386/RedHat/RPMS/
> >
> > You will find egcs-1.1.1 (not the newest but newer than the one you
> > have; the newest is 1.1.2), kde and qt-1.44.
>
> Don't try that link. Most likely, they won't work on your system
> without some other serious changes to glibc. All the RPMS on rawhide
> are compiled under glibc2.1, and Redhat5.2 used glibc2.0 which aren't
> always quite compatible. Use ftp://contrib.redhat.com instead.
>
> -Dave
Correct, but there is also an SRPMS directory on rawhide. You can
build egcs, qt and kde on your system with those SRPMS and will have a
better chance of getting things to work.
--
Kelly R. Burkhart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Moritz Barsnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.sco.misc,alt.unix.wizards,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: HELP! Need data from BAD Floopy!
Date: 25 Mar 1999 09:53:23 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andrew Gierth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If he has two identical copies of the disk, both bad (which seemed to
> be what he was implying), then careful use of dd might enable the data
> to be recovered (unless the same blocks are bad on both disks).
IIRC, `dd' demands to read through its input. It will therefore encounter
those bad blocks and fail. I remember reading of a `dd'-replacement whichs
seeks to the "skip"ped part. You can read about it in the Linux
"Ext2-Undeletion" mini-HOWTO, I think.
HTH,
greetings,
Moritz. :-)
--
All opinions expressed above are my own and not approved by my employer.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Onion)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: microsoft bus mouse
Date: 25 Mar 1999 10:27:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Bart Buelens wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> just installed red hat linux 5.2 on my intel pentium, but have troubles
>> configuring my x server and mouse. I have a microsoft bus mouse, I can start
>> x but the mouse pointer on the screen doesn't move as I move the mouse! i.e.
>> like if x doesn't see my mouse
>>
>> any ideas how to solve this problem?
Check that the IRQ jumper on the bus-mouse card matches what the kernel
thinks it is set to. By default the kernel driver uses
#define MOUSE_IRQ 5
from /usr/src/linux-2.0.37/include/linux/busmouse.h
Peter Onion
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From: Kishore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: traceroute 10.1.1.2=> 10.1.1.1 .323ms !H .238ms !H
Date: 25 Mar 1999 06:32:04 GMT
I have a stand alone network
#traceroute 10.1.1.2
1. 10.1.1.1 .323ms !H .238ms !H .198ms !H
#
What does this mean?
Thanks,
Kishore
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lynn Winebarger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: 25 Mar 1999 10:34:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Lynn> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Powe
> Lynn> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For my own part, I've
> Lynn> been reading some law books recently because I want to be
> Lynn> ready if a lawsuit comes my way (for whatever reason). I
> Lynn> don't trust (or really expect, given a possible malpractice
> Lynn> claim) a lawyer to give me good advice for aggressively
> Lynn> pursuing my rights when the law is ambiguous about it.
>
> >> Well, I don't know. He states baldly that he assumes any
> >> attorney he hires will give him bad advice and disregard the
> >> interests of his client.
>
> Lynn> Read it again. That is not what I said. What I expect
> Lynn> is for an attorney to give me cautious advice designed to
> Lynn> avoid litigation, which, depending on what you want, may not
>
>Hell, it's quoted right at the top of this message. "I don't trust
>(or really expect, given a possible malpractice claim) a lawyer
>to give me good advice ..."
Which is not the same as saying I expect _bad_ advice. The contexts
for judgement are different. The natural aim of an attorney is to keep
his client _out_ of litigation, or if that fails, to minimize damages -
usually through some sort of settlement. At least, that's my
understanding of the usual goals of an attorney.
You also have to give up the assumption that !good = bad.
>You seem to be not up on your Civil Rights history. Rosa Parks was a
I'll cop to that.
>NAACP member who had trained in nonviolent tactics at a special
>`retreat' before she made her historic decision. She was fully
>briefed on her legal position. Not surprisingly, she got that
>briefing through attorneys. Your tarring the likes of Thurgood
>Marshall, Morris Dees or William O. Douglas with the same brush you'd
>use on ambulance chasers strikes me as a bit ridiculous, to say the
>least.
Ok. Yet, this doesn't exactly address the same situation I've been
thinking of. Here, there was an organization in place that provided
access to attorneys who were (presumably) interested in advancing the
cause. This is not the case (to my knowledge, which is obviously
limited) with free software developers and IP lawyers. I hope
organizations like Software in the Public Interest will develop this
kind of service, but it's unclear at the present time if or when that
will happen.
Of course, this isn't exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned
"going to an attorney." I still have some heavy doubt that if she had
just gone to an attorney in town (without the NAACP connection) she
would have been given good advice regarding where to sit on that bus.
You also say "fully briefed on her legal position," which is somewhat
different than being given advice. I would find it hard to believe any
attorney would advise actions that might land their client in jail.
At least, with malpractice laws the way they are.
>I'm not discussing `responsibility for the law' -- whatever that may
>actually mean. When you're sick, you take certain measures to regain
>your health. That doesn't mean you second-guess your doctor. It
>doesn't make you competent to diagnose your illness, either. When you
>think you are, there's a good chance you'll die. When I was 17, I
>came down with appendicitis. For six hours, my parents maintained it
>was just a stomach ache before finally calling the family doctor. By
>the time he got me to the hospital, I was in such bad shape they had
>to run me straight into the operating room. I was lucky -- another
>hour or two and I wouldn't be writing this message.
There are two ways of making laws (that I know of). One is through
the legislature, the other is through the courts. Most of us (I think)
would have a hard time vying with well-funded lobbyists for legislators
time and interest, especially when it comes to an abstract topic like
intellectual property. On the other hand, it is quite easy to get the
court's attention, though also possibly costly.
I don't think the disease analogy really holds up, since, unlike
diseases, the origins and effects of laws are determined by mankind, not
scientific principles.
>I don't have an argument with the notion of `the law is for everyone'
>- -- even though it's naive in a certain sense; the law is certainly a
>great deal more egalitarian now than it was 50, 100 or 200 years ago.
>Like any complex human undertaking, there are those who are expert in
>its workings. I can't imagine any circumstance in which I would
>presume a knowledge of law great than that of an attorney, unless I
>was acting under the advice of ... another attorney.
I didn't claim I wasn't naive. I am aware of the ambitious nature
of the undertaking. On the other hand, I am disturbed by the tendency
of people to say "This is too complicated for me to think about - I
better let someone else who's smarter figure it out for me." Which I'll
agree is not exactly what you're saying. What I'm saying is that I
doubt learning the law is not an insurmountable task, even for a
layperson. I'll go so far as to say that the court decisions I've been
reading have been far easier going than most of the mathematics texts
I've read as a grad student.
>
>Frankly, I get irked at the assumption (made not just by you but by
>many others as well) that attorneys are somehow `less moral' than the
>rest of us merely by the fact of having been called to the bar. It's
>ridiculous. And if you wanted to get into some kind of class-based
>moral analysis, certainly businessmen are the most dishonest, anyway.
>(flamebait)
>
I don't believe I said lawyers were immoral (though they might have
more than their fair share). Merely that their primary goal - as
mandated by the ethics they swear to on entering the bar, and
malpractice law - may not be the same as mine.
Lynn
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From: Joe Keane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: What is the best Linux to install?
Date: 25 Mar 1999 00:36:42 -0800
In article <7d6822$6u1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Rufus V. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>What's the best tasting fruit: Apples, Pears, Oranges, or Bananas?
Pears.
>If it's not in the FAQ's, it should be added.
--
Joe Keane, amateur mathematician
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From: yaowe ong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dual boot WinNT and RH Linux
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 05:36:25 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I like to install red hat linux and be able to dual boot between window
nt workstation and rh linux. Is this possible?
Thank you
yo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Durbin)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: queuing of sendmail / fetchmai
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:41:27 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 24 Mar 1999 22:56:45
GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk) wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>I have a LAN connected to an ISP via an ISDN router. In order to avoid
>>having the ISDN line up 24 hours a day, I try to limit the number of
>>dial-ups to a minimum.
>>
>>To get mail for a number of local users, I use fetchmail to collect mail
>>from the ISP on a fixed schedule (fecthmail -dxxx). The linux server is set
>>up as mailserver, with sendmail running in deferred mode, i.e. it processes
>>the queue in given intervals _only_. This is to avoid that sendmail connects
>>to the ISP everytime some local user sends a mail. The problem with this
>>setup is that it also affects local mail; i.e. if I send a mail to the guy
>>in the next office, he will not get it until the next queue run.
>>
>>This kind of batch send/receive is OK for external mail, but how do I make
>>sendmail deliver _local_ mail right away and queue external mail?
>
>I think the trick is configure the external mailers (smtp) as "expensive",
>and tell sendmail not to connect to "expensive" mailers with the
>HoldExpensive option. Then you need to take sendmail out of deferred mode.
>I realize this is sketchy, but hope it helps anyway.
I've recently set something like this up, and it *almost* works :)
If you change the DeliveryMode from Deferred to Background then you
get the problem that sendmail does DNS lookups every time you submit a
mail via SMTP. I tried to get around this by removing the check_mail
and check_rcpt rulesets, but dial-outs still occur. I then tried
running a caching name server to try and stop the dial outs but
sending in internal mail still forces a dial out, but waiting until
the line drops and then sending another mail doesn't force a dial out
- I presume due to a cached DNS entry.However, the entry only seems to
stay cached for some 5-6 minutes which is shorter than I'd expect.
Is there a reliable way around this ?
Darren
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From: Simon Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Ext2fs details and creating a fs in a file (for mounting using loopback)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:04:53 -0100
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Hi,
I'm looking for details of how ext2fs uses a partition space.
Specifically, for an unformatted partition space of 'n', how to
calculate much actual file space is useable.
Put another way, in order to store y KB , consisting of z files, how big
does the unformatted partition need to be so that when it is formatted
with ext2fs, there is enough space to the files.
e.g.: For 1.44MB disk, I would use:
dd if=/dev/zero of=disk.144 bs=1024 count=1440
mke2fs -F -m 0 disk.img
mount disk.img /mnt -o loop
df /mnt
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Which results in the following display from df:
Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on
1440.img 1390 13 1377 1% /mnt
The resulting differences between the original 1440 blocks and the
available file space is 50 + 13 blocks, how can this be calculated for
image sizes from 1MB to 1GB?.
What I'd like to know is how to calculate the image file size such that
I can get exactly 1.44MB (or whatever I require).
I tried looking through the code for the extfs system and its utils but
I cannot work out how it calculates the space.
Any help or pointers would be appreciated.
Rgds,
Simon Thornton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Sweger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: tcpip s/w pkg source?
Date: 25 Mar 1999 11:35:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I would like to get the source code for the "tcpip" s/w package and
recompile it for my machine; however, every copy I get is only the binaries.
Where and by what tgz package name does it go by? Or whoever creates
the tcpip.tgz package, do they build it from various s/w packages such as,
inetd****.tar.gz
net-kit****.tar.gz
net-tools****.tar.gz
The tcpip.tgz package contains:
inetd
ftp
telnet
"the remote commands"
and some more stuff.
TIA
--
Mike,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: can't read mail from netscape
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:43:55 GMT
I installed pine 4.1 on a Slackware 3.1 machine with a 2.0.30 kernel. I
uninstalled it because by default it move your mail from /var/spool/mail and
it seems to have lost all of my old read mail. However since then I have
been unable to get my mail via netscape. Netscape complains that the mail
directory is already being read when no-one else is reading the file. What
could cause this and how can I correct it ?
Eric Headley
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From: LETOT Rémi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual boot WinNT and RH Linux
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:51:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I like to install red hat linux and be able to dual boot between window
> nt workstation and rh linux. Is this possible?
Yep, absolutely no problem. Several howto's cover that kind of
situation.
- Rémi -
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From: "Stephen M. Waite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: using telnet instead of login for terminals
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 06:55:48 -0500
I would like to use telnet instead of login for my serial connections.
I assumed that I could replace login with telnet in inittab.
Unfortunately this did not work.
What is the proper syntax?
Thanks for your time.
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From: yan seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VPN for linux/NT
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 06:35:58 -0500
Any movement onthe VPN front?
I need to connect NT ws to linux server across the internet. Any
pointers to software or howtos for this mised breed vpn are most
welcome.
Thanks.
Yan
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From: Rob Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.dev.kernel
Subject: Re: 2.2.3 doesn't like my HDD
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:51:06 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Has anyone else had major disk problems with the 2.2.3 kernel?
> Did you compile 2.2.3 with egcs-1.1.1 and did you eventually compile
> ext2 support as a module?
Yes. Built with egcs-1.1.1 as my previous, fully working 2.2.3 kernel
was. Ext2 support is built in.
> I think you should post more details (kernel config, output of fdisk -l
> and /etc/fstab).
I don't think it's a problem with the fstab or the disk, because under
2.0.29 everything is great. Unfortunately I can't use 2.0.29 as my $HOME
is on a UFS partition which I share with a Solaris installation. Does
2.2.3 deal with large HDs differently or something?
I see that there's a 2.2.4 kernel out now. I'll try that tonight and see
if it fixes things. If not, I'll get all the relevent details on here
and we'll see what the gurus come up with.
Rob
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From: Jan Buckow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need Help: Complicated situation
Date: 25 Mar 1999 12:46:34 +0100
Hi,
after buying some hardware I now face the problem to
install
- two ide HDs
- one CDROM drive
- one cdwriter
- a ZIP-drive
Previously I had only one HD, the cdrom drive and the
zip drive which worked perfectly well together.
I put the two HDs on one IDE controller, and the two
CDROM drives on the other. I jumpered the cdwriter as
Master and the cdrom drive as Slave.
Since I want to use some common programs to grab audio
data and burn cds, I read the CD-Writing-HOWTO.
I got the impression that a good way to configure
the hardware were:
- use IDE-ATAPI for the CDROM drive
- use SCSI emulation for the CDWRITER
Is that right? (I'd prefer to use both drive and wirter
as ATAPI devices, but it seems some programs need the
scsi-emulationi. Is that true?)
Following the description, I got the kernel 2.0.36
used "hdc=ide-scsi" in the append line in /etc/conf.modules
Now, at boot time I get the following messages:
<4>ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
<4> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xe800-0xe807
<4> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xe808-0xe80f
<4>hda: QUANTUM FIREBALL ST6.4A, 6149MB w/81kB Cache, CHS=784/255/63, DMA
<4>hdb: IBM-DTTA-351010, 9671MB w/466kB Cache, CHS=19650/16/63, DMA
<4>hdc: CD-RW CRX100E, ATAPI drive - enabling SCSI emulation
<4>ATAPI overlap supported: No
<4>hdd: TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6102B, ATAPI CDROM drive
...
<4>scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
<4>scsi : 1 host.
<4> Vendor: SONY Model: CD-RW CRX100E Rev: 1.0j
<4> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
<4>scsi : detected total.
After doing all that, I cannot mount my zip-drive any more: The error msg is:
/lib/modules/2.0.36/scsi/ppa.o: symbol for parameter ppa_base not found
In my /etc/conf.modules I have the following entries:
options ppa ppa_base=0x278
pre-install sd_mod modprobe -k ppa ppa_base=0x278
Doesn't ppa need the ppa_base information any more? What's the problem?
The next problem is: How do I use the cdriter? As a test I wanted to mount
the writer to /cdwriter. How can I do that? I tried
mount /etc/hdc -t iso9660 /cdwriter
(and a lot of other things) but that didn't work.
Do I have to use other devices? Which? And How?
Thanks for any help,
Jan
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