Linux-Misc Digest #378, Volume #19 Tue, 9 Mar 99 02:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: HELP! D drive disappeared after installed RedHat5.2 ("Jim Thompson")
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Tomasz Korycki)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (brian moore)
Re: Running behind your back: Crontab defaults? (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: as86: Command not found (Mark Tranchant)
Re: Is Slackware is based on libc5? (Mark Tranchant)
Re: swapon -s: /proc/swaps: No such file or directory (Mark Tranchant)
Re: A question about MP3's and Linux (Mark Tranchant)
Re: special characters in UNIX how? (Mark Tranchant)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Tomasz Korycki)
Pikes Peak Linux User's Group (Glenn Butcher)
Re: best offline newsreader? (Richard Steiner)
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (drwho)
Probs:Gnome 1.0, aclocal, Esd, cd's, compile errors, dumping core, etc (anonymous)
Re: Soft Landing Systems (Richard Steiner)
Re: Used WWW.DEJANEWS.COM ! (Richard Steiner)
Re: mgetty fax receive problem (Bill Unruh)
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From: "Jim Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP! D drive disappeared after installed RedHat5.2
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 00:01:56 -0500
If RedHat was installed to drive D, Windows will no longer recognize it
because Windows does not recognize linux file systems.
Jim
fernando wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I beleive you installed RH in the "D" drive.
>Sorry ...
>
>Synapse Man wrote:
>>
>> Hi. Here's the situation. My friends got Win98, and one HDD partitioned
>> into C- and D-drives.
>>
>> He installs RedHat 5.2, and then under Win98, loses his D-drive. The
>> icon for D-drive is still there, but it reports "drive not ready",
>> "invalid drive specification" or something like that.
>>
>> I suspect that the D-drive partition is gone and needs to be
>> re-formatted, but I am not sure at all.
>>
>> What's happening? What should he do now?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> ----------------------
>>
>> Note: Bogus e-mail used to deter spammers. Pls reply to Newsgroup.
>> Thanks.
>
>--
>--------------------------------------------
>This are my personal opinions
>Real email: sanabriaf at yahoo dot com
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From: Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 01:12:23 -0500
brian moore wrote:
>
> On Mon, 08 Mar 1999 01:22:38 -0500,
> Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > brian moore wrote:
> > >
> > >>>>>> snip! <<<<<<<<
> > > And, yes, this means the last holdout from basing their systems on Unix
> > > concepts is Microsoft. (Just as C is called a 'portable assembly
> > > language', Unix is the most portable OS.)
> >
> > Hmmm.... Two examples just off the top of my head: MVS (S/390 OS) and
> > OS/400 (need I explain?)
>
> Which of those is made by a company that doesn't ship Unix? They both
> seem to be made by IBM, which has played in the Unix biz for years and
> has shown no signs of disinterest.
>
Yes. And Your point, as related to "the last holdout from basing their
systems on Unix concepts is Microsoft" bit? Mind You, if You look deep
enough into NT architecture, You'll see.... VMS!
> (As for the AS/400, rumor is that there is an internal Linux port that
> folks at IBM have been playing with for grins. Now if I could just get
> my boss to let me have the old D-box ....)
>
> MS has precisely zero Unix offerings. They most likely never will
> (despite "why can't microsoft make MS-Linux" threads) thanks to their
> agreement with SCO to stay out of the Unix market. (SCO was smart when
> they bought off Xenix on that point.)
>
> --
> Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
> Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
> Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
> Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: 9 Mar 1999 06:19:40 GMT
On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 01:12:23 -0500,
Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> brian moore wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 08 Mar 1999 01:22:38 -0500,
> > Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > brian moore wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>>>>> snip! <<<<<<<<
> > > > And, yes, this means the last holdout from basing their systems on Unix
> > > > concepts is Microsoft. (Just as C is called a 'portable assembly
> > > > language', Unix is the most portable OS.)
> > >
> > > Hmmm.... Two examples just off the top of my head: MVS (S/390 OS) and
> > > OS/400 (need I explain?)
> >
> > Which of those is made by a company that doesn't ship Unix? They both
> > seem to be made by IBM, which has played in the Unix biz for years and
> > has shown no signs of disinterest.
> >
>
> Yes. And Your point, as related to "the last holdout from basing their
> systems on Unix concepts is Microsoft" bit? Mind You, if You look deep
> enough into NT architecture, You'll see.... VMS!
VMS is based on Unix?
Very interesting news indeed.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Running behind your back: Crontab defaults?
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:38:24 GMT
oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>So could I get rid of all this stuff too?
You could, though it's not really a good idea to do it. Most of
that stuff is basic system maintenance, and having to run it manually
seems to be a waste of time.
>I don't use locate.
[...]
Well, you don't need it permanently, but it is a very nice tool
if you're looking for a specific file.
>I like to keep my hard drive spun down when not in use for long
>periods of time.
That's actually worse for the drive than having it running
continuosly.
Michael
--
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't mungle your address.
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: as86: Command not found
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 07:57:05 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Woah! It seesm to be in the binutils package of Slackware, but it isn't
in the "standard" binutils package to be found on Sunsite. look for
bin86-0.4.tar.gz (I think) - it's in that.
Mark.
Mircea wrote:
>
> as86 is part of the binutils package. You probably don't have binutils
> installed. Read the /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes file for all
> the upgrades you need to put a 2.2.x kernel on your distribution. For
> one thing, you need at least binutils 2.8.1.0.23
>
> MST
>
> Michael wrote:
>
> > When trying to compile the 2.2.2 kernel, I get the error:
> >
> > as86: Command not found
> >
> > In which library can I find this command. I already have gcc-2.8.1
> > installed.
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Slackware is based on libc5?
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 07:59:09 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You heard wrong. It does have *runtime* support packages glibc1 and
glibc2, which allow you to run glibc2 pre-compiled binaries; but it
doesn't have compile-time support, so you can't build your own glibc2
apps.
Mark.
Micha³ Kuratczyk wrote:
>
> jik- wrote:
> >3.6 has glibc runtime support libraries.
> I heard that it hasn't. Thanks.
>
> --
> Micha³ Kuratczyk
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: swapon -s: /proc/swaps: No such file or directory
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 08:12:17 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My guess is that you don't have any swap partitions enabled. The
previous poster was probably trying to suggest you ran "swapon -a",
which will activate all swap partitions set up in /etc/fstab. Are you
sure you have any swap space set up?
Alternatively, you could be running an old kernel - I *think*
/proc/swaps is a fairly recent addition (2.0.x).
Mark.
Dieter Rohlfing wrote:
>
> On Sat, 06 Mar 1999 21:11:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen
> Heinzl) wrote:
>
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dieter Rohlfing wrote:
> >>I have the proc filesystem installed, but no entry /proc/swaps. Where is
> >>the switch to get /proc/swaps? TIA.
> >
> >man swapon
>
> Man swapon doesn't tell me, how I can get /proc/swaps. Did you read man
> swapon?
>
> Dieter Rohlfing
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A question about MP3's and Linux
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 08:06:41 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No chance, I'm afraid. I use kmp3 (the KDE MP3 player) on my 486-DX4/120
with 32MB. The latest development version uses mpg123. The mpg123 author
claims it is the fastest player for Linux; the kmp3 author claims that
the way he uses it makes it even more efficient than console use.
I can *just* (80% CPU usage) play 128kb/s 44.1kHz MP3s, so long as I
don't do anything other than type or move the mouse.
If you have ample disk-space, you could decode the MP3s to something
like WAV format slower than real-time, then replay the WAVs...
Mark.
J Crowtz wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Having recently picked up an old SoundBlaster16 sound card, I am going
> to install it in my computer so I can listen to some music. Mainly, I
> would like to play MP3s. However, my CPU is a 486SX, running at 25mhz.
> Though I have Redhat 5.0 on my system, and I know there are many MP3
> players for Linux, will I still be able to play MP3s with no problems?
> (I also have 20 megs of ram and 16 megs swap space, if that makes any
> difference.)
>
> please respond to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thank you for your time,
>
> - Jason
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: special characters in UNIX how?
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 07:54:22 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Joe (theWordy) Philbrook wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Bev wrote:
> >
> > ¡ ¢ £ ¤ ¥ ¦ § ¨ © ª « ¬ ® ¯ ° ± ² ³ ´ µ ¶ · ¸ ¹ º » ¼ ½ ¾ ¿
> >
> > À Á Â Ã Ä Å Æ Ç È É Ê Ë Ì Í Î Ï Ð Ñ Ò Ó Ô Õ Ö × Ø Ù Ú Û Ü Ý Þ ß
> >
> > à á â ã ä å æ ç è é ê ë ì í î ï ð ñ ò ó ô õ ö ÷ ø ù ú û ü ý þ ÿ
> >
> > Better than nothing :-)
>
> I'd like to add just one more special char...
>
> ¨How does one get the copyright character? ® you know it's not really (c) ¯
It's the 9th character in the above list here (Win95 (sorry - I'm at
work!)).
Mark.
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From: Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 01:26:56 -0500
brian moore wrote:
>
> On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 01:12:23 -0500,
> Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > brian moore wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 08 Mar 1999 01:22:38 -0500,
> > > Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > brian moore wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>>>>> snip! <<<<<<<<
> > > > > And, yes, this means the last holdout from basing their systems on Unix
> > > > > concepts is Microsoft. (Just as C is called a 'portable assembly
> > > > > language', Unix is the most portable OS.)
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm.... Two examples just off the top of my head: MVS (S/390 OS) and
> > > > OS/400 (need I explain?)
> > >
> > > Which of those is made by a company that doesn't ship Unix? They both
> > > seem to be made by IBM, which has played in the Unix biz for years and
> > > has shown no signs of disinterest.
> > >
> >
> > Yes. And Your point, as related to "the last holdout from basing their
> > systems on Unix concepts is Microsoft" bit? Mind You, if You look deep
> > enough into NT architecture, You'll see.... VMS!
>
> VMS is based on Unix?
>
> Very interesting news indeed.
>
> --
Never said it was. That was just an "aside". And the explicit answer to
my question? I am a little slow on the uptake, as I can't make it out
from Your reply....
> Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
> Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
> Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
> Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Glenn Butcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pikes Peak Linux User's Group
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 22:06:32 -0700
Here goes an attempt to form a LUG in the Colorado Springs area. Come
to a kickoff meeting Friday 12 March at 6:00 pm at:
Colorado Technical University
4435 N. Chestnut St (1/2 block south of Garden of the Gods)
For more info, go to:
http://pplug.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:00:44 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "Richard Latimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>Before I write anything else, a small disclaimer is in order. I did not
>mean to imply that we should introduce html usage into newsgroups. I only
>meant to point out that Outlook Express, a combined mail and news client,
>has the ability to handle about anything you can send it, or wish to
>create with it.
Yes, and the potential for abuse is absolutely tremendous in the hands
of thousands upon thousands of non-experienced users who are likely to
use such a tool.
That's the core of my own problem with the concept.
Most of the folks who understand and use/prefer Unix newsreaders like
slrn or gnus also have some experience with Usenet.
To non-technical newbies who think (internet == web), the rules of the
road regarding Usenet are not so obvious. Witness the many postings
you sometimes see here from Windows folks who are new to Linux. They
don't have a CLUE that HTML posting is really frowned upon here.
>If you had a new baby, you could cobble up some dynamite announcements
>in no time, with cutsey pink and blue borders, pics of the kid, and some
>gurgling sounds to go with it. That's a more practical html usage. The
>functionality is there when you need it. And it's fun (excepting the guys
>in the hair shirts).
Yup, I agree it's neat, and that there's no reason why that can't be
done in newsgroups which explicitly allow it, or via MIME attachments
in e-mail.
>The posts in this thread are interesting. Notice how many users are not
>running all linux systems, or have additional machines running other
>operating systems. Obviously, Linux cannot meet all of their computing
>needs, yet. Excluding server installations, there are probably few linux
>users who do not have a second operating system loaded, or a second
>computer running another operating system.
>
>The question is why?
Part of it could be a combination of two things:
(1) Most boxes come with something else as a preload, and people don't
like throwing that away.
(2) Some of us are experienced users with multiple boxes a/o OSes.
I started using PCs here at home in 1988 when Linux didn't yet exist.
My 486 here began running OS/2 as soon as I purchased it because I had
been getting sick of the limitations in Windows 3.1, and that's what I
still use here as my main desktop OS because it does what I want very
well, and because I have a lot of OS/2 software I like.
I also run Linux here on a secondary desktop box and I run Linux as a
firewall, and soon I'll be running a fourth box with Linux as a local
file server. So I'm a dual-OS user. But I do it because I can, not
because I need to. Operating systems are an end in themselves for me,
as may be apparent from my signature. :-)
>What seems reasonable in the unix community looks positively Luddite
>from the outside.
Perhaps, but keep in mind that, to some of us, the Windows way of doing
things is no better. Frosting on a poor infrastruture is a lot worse.
>By accepting these tools as they are, by adapting yourself to a rather
>Byzantine manner of doing things, you are undermining the development
>that would make Linux a winner on the desktop. Urging others to accept
>this culture as reasonable is a mistake.
Serious question:
Why should I want Linux to be a rousing success on the general user's
desktop when it's already a success on my hobbyist desktop?
Is common acceptance a good thing for Linux or its existing users?
Can the current advantages of Linux for the hobbyist or professional be
retained if it becomes a successful general-use desktop (and probably
consequently driven by the needs of the masses, not ours)?
>Generous people wrote a lot of unix/linux software to solve specific
>problems. It was adequate for their purposes. It is no longer adequate
>for the challenges Linux confronts now. More elegant, simpler solutions
>are needed.
I agree with the general sentiment that making things easier is likely
a good thing in both the short and long runs, at least when done in a
carefully considered manner, but I strongly question the "need" aspect
of this that you seem to be implying.
Flexible solutions are often somewhat difficult to understand because
they require knowledge to use effectively.
Linux exists now and thrives in spite of its configuration difficulty,
and often is appealing because of that difficulty, not in spite of it.
I probably wouldn't have installed Linux at first back in 1993 had I
not known the SLS installation was a challenging task, and a lot of the
satisfaction I get out of using Linux even today is figuring out how to
get iut to do what I want.
That's one of the reasons I like having a lot of OSes around -- they
give me a chance to solve a problem in many different contexts, which I
find to be relatively interesting. YMMV, obviously. :-)
I agree that beginner-friendly tools and configuration utilities will
probably end up adding value to Linux as a whole. But I don't think
Linux should be turned into a Windows interface with a Linux kernel,
and that is the type of end result that most frightens me.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
Burger Borg: We do it our way; yours is irrelevant.
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From: drwho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: 08 Mar 1999 19:42:39 -0600
Nicolas Blais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Microsoft is shit, Linux is crap and FreeBSD rules. A Windows vs
> FreeBSD comparasion is like comparing a Free Ferrarri and a 90,000$ Lada.
>
Well, this is a profoundly well thought-out reply.
Oh, aren't you the one that posted a couple threads back asking of Linux
or BSD was the better of two OS's? So you made up your mind that fast, eh?
You sound like a fanatic now, which doesn't give ANYTHING a good image.
Think about it.
--
Fight email spam: http://www.cauce.org/
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From: anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Probs:Gnome 1.0, aclocal, Esd, cd's, compile errors, dumping core, etc
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 01:36:54 +0000
Hello,
I got a RedHat 5.2 system up and running... and then I made it start
limping. I've searched DejaNews high and low and have found answers to
many questions, but these still remain:
1) When I go to compile pretty much any program, especially cvs, I get this
type of error:
You should add the contents of `/usr/local/share/aclocal/libtool.m4' to
`aclocal.m4'.
aclocal: /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4: 25: duplicated macro
`AM_PROG_LIBTOOL'
aclocal: /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4: 91: duplicated macro
`AM_ENABLE_SHARED'
aclocal: /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4: 117: duplicated macro
`AM_DISABLE_SHARED'
aclocal: /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4: 121: duplicated macro
`AM_DISABLE_STATIC'
aclocal: /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4: 128: duplicated macro
`AM_ENABLE_STATIC'
aclocal: /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4: 155: duplicated macro `AM_PROG_LD'
aclocal: /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4: 218: duplicated macro
`AM_PROG_LD_GNU'
aclocal: /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4: 229: duplicated macro `AM_PROG_NM'
--
and then ends with this error:
./configure: line 534: syntax error near unexpected token
`AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(Eterm,'
./configure: line 534: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(Eterm, 0.8.9)'
--
I had the problem right after installing Gnome 1.0 I think - that was when
many problems came about. Soemone mentioned in DejaNews that it was b/c
there was a /usr/local/share/aclocal and a /usr/share/aclocal. so I did
what they recommended and moved all of the files from
/usr/local/share/aclocal to /usr/share/aclocal and then removed the
directory /usr/local/share/aclocal and replaced it with a symbolic link to
the other one. still had the same problems, what you see above.
Next problem...
2) I think gtcd is great, it uses cddb and looks pretty nice and I
generally think it is cool and want to use it... except that when I start
it, it plays away and there is no output to the speakers. I know the
soundcard is connected, b/c I had it working before I had gnome installed.
the cd player is working b/c I can listen directly with headphones. so
somewhere between it is not right. Esd lets me played sounds, esdplay
wav.wav will come out great, but no other sounds ever happen.
3) Before Gnome 1.0, I had my .xinitrc as exec gnome-session, and all was
good. now startx x won't start anything with that, so I ahd to comment it
out and just have enlightenment. if I type gnome-session from an xterm, I
get:
[esmith@student_99ess src]$ gnome-session
gnome-session: error in loading shared libraries
: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info
--
that is the same error that causes startx to not start. and prior to all
of this, the panel would frequently drop out and dump core - as does much
of the sound. I am using the ensoniq audiopci 64, it is working on my
system, just not very well I guess.
I would like to use the cvs stuff, but it won't compile and now I can't
even use Gnome. Someone suggested that I drop RedHat and switch to Debian
b/c the cvs works better under that. I would rather not lose the time I
have put into this system if it is savable....
so if anyone can give me any assitance with this, that'd be great.
thanks, please feel free to e-mail me (remove the spam things so you get
esmithto start and an edu to end there) - otherwise I will most likely be
checking the responses via dejanews searches seeing as the volume of
messages in these groups makes it hard to find ones specifically for me.
Thanks again,
Eric Smith
[spam-remove][EMAIL PROTECTED][spam-remove]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Soft Landing Systems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:33:53 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sparkzz) spake unto us, saying:
>Whatever happened to them??
SLS? I think (I'm guessing) that it might've turned into Slackware.
The two certainly seem to share a lot of concepts.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
Incontinence Hotline... Can you hold, please? Thanks...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Used WWW.DEJANEWS.COM !
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:43:08 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, concord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>Just wanted to let you know that I had a really big question about
>glibc vs. libc5 and I had the whole thing typed up and was ready to
>send it to this newsgroup when I decided to check dejanews first.
Thank you! :-)
>The answer was already there.
Yes, it often is.
>I see a lot of questions posted that never get answered - I wonder if
>it's because people are tired of answering the same questions over and
>over again? I guess that would get tiring.
You got it. Although I'm starting to save a few of my own messages so
I can re-send them again if the same question is asked again.
>Be patient with us newbies... we're learning.
It gets frustrating sometimes on both sides, but the more newbies we
can answer questions for, the more experienced users we'll eventually
have to help share the load when even more newbies show up. :-)
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
Bring out your dead!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: de.alt.comm.mgetty
Subject: Re: mgetty fax receive problem
Date: 9 Mar 1999 07:03:53 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Peter Caffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hayes Accura 33.6 (Class 2.0 compliant)
This is the claim
> T3:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -x5 -C c2.0 -s 57600 ttyS0
^^^^^^^ And you try to tell it to use
2.0
>03/09 10:57:06 yS0 mdm_send: 'AT+FCLASS=2.0'
>03/09 10:57:06 yS0 mdm_command: string 'AT+FCLASS=2.0'
>03/09 10:57:06 yS0 mdm_command: string 'ERROR' -> ERROR
And here your modem reports that it does not support 2.0
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