Linux-Misc Digest #175, Volume #20 Wed, 12 May 99 20:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: LILO, can't boot from 2nd SCSI drive. ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
Re: glib/gtk problems (NF Stevens)
Re: *.tgz (J Knight)
newsgroup for LinuxPPC? (Joe Strout)
Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LILO.CONF (Martin Burkhardt)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism ("Martin Ozolins")
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Peter Seebach)
Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Redhat Sparc wants 150M Smaller needed! (Paul Sherwin)
Re: Linux and windows floppy drive problems ("Baumans")
RoadRunner (cable modem) in Linux? (Joe Strout)
Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Help - Resolution Setup (John)
Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux) (Serge Terryn)
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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: LILO, can't boot from 2nd SCSI drive.
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:39:18 -0400
Robin wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Don't you just love the spontainously helpful dudes out there in never
never
>land.......
>"it's well documented in the howto's" sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh get a life!!
>Any way had the same problem myself could not solve it at all for RH5.1
>
Thanks, I got it running by re-installing it. I'm happy now and have moved
onto other hurdles that I will conquer. I love this linux system, but it's
a bear to get running the way I want it. To me, it's all in fun so I'm not
going to get frustrated and will continue to build my linux knowledge.
Thanks again to all the wonderful people out her that help each other. I
want to be able to give back some help when I learn more.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: glib/gtk problems
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:17:07 GMT
hellraiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i just compiled and installed glib-1.2.3 without any problems. now when
>i run the configure script for gtk+-1.2.3 it says it can't find
>glib-1.2.3. why is it doing this?? nothing went wrong at all with glib
>and it installed in the proper directories and everything. any ideas?
Check configure.log to see what the exact error message is.
Run "glib-config --version" to see which version of glib the
configure script will find. If you have an old version of glib
its configure script may be in a directory in the path before
your new version. This will cause problems.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Knight)
Subject: Re: *.tgz
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:10:13 GMT
On Wed, 12 May 1999 15:38:57 -0700, jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Nevyn wrote:
>>
>> very simple question i know but how do i uncompresscompleatly a tgz
>> file....i used gunzip(?) an it made a tar file that i can nothing
>> with...what do i do next?.....if anyones willing to help..mail me an answer
>> @ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Either that, or tar zxvf file.tgz will do the whole thing all at
>once....put a v in there if you want to watch it extract.
As long as you haven't already unzipped it.
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From: Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newsgroup for LinuxPPC?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:23:04 -0700
I'm fairly new to the Linux world, so excuse my stupid questions...
Is there a newsgroup specifically for issues related to LinuxPPC? I'd
swear there used to be one, but I can't find it now. More to the
point, is this the appropriate place to post my LinuxPPC-specific
questions?
Thanks,
-- Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:33:18 GMT
In article <7hcdt2$k3e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) wrote:
> In article <7hba7n$idh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >That's not the point -- I don't want things installed unless I decide
to
> >install them and do so myself, in which case both *BSD and Linux
would
> >put them in /usr/local.
> Linux wouldn't put them in /usr/local. You might put them there
yourself,
Sorry. Putting them there myself was what I was talking about, so what
I should have said was "in which case they'd be in /usr/local under both
*BSD or Linux". I didn't mean to imply that Linux ever installed things
in /usr/local "itself".
> This is exactly the reason that you don't want the distribution
> installed version to land in the same spot as your locally modified
> copies.
A much simpler way to hanle this is not to install the distribution
versions at all, unless you decide to do so using normal package tools.
Mass-installation of extra packages is what's causing the problem -- if
you don't mass-install, the risk of "accidentally" overwriting modified
local copies is much less.
> Huh?? What Linux distribution doesn't give you a list of apps?
> RedHat has a large list of basic groupings, plus options to
> take 'everything' or to choose individual components from the
> groupings.
Sorry, too much hyperbole on my part. Certainly I *can* add packages
one by one with Linux distributions, it's just that most admins I know
tend to just click the "everything" button. That in and of itself gets
to the nitty-gritty of the problem, namely the behavior and preferences
of individual admins. It really does all boil down to personal taste as
to whether it's easier to keep "optional" things with "system" things
and do upgrades at the same time [but being forced to be careful about
minor revisions] or keep them seperate. I prefer the more traditional
model, partly because it *is* "traditional" [which is just another way
of saying it's _standard_].
> I thought the freebsd ports/packages system installed things under
> /usr/local which then become mingled with the things that you
> need to maintain yourself. I'm easily confused.
What difference are you seeing between packages and things you need to
maintain yourself? The way I see things, they are one in the same. The
only software I don't expect to "need" to maintain myself are system
binaries, which is precisely what's installed in /usr.
> I want the
> unmodified installations to go one place, the ones I expect to
> have to tweak even after the next upgrade in another.
If you have a tweaked version you're already using, why do you even care
if the distribution versions are installed at all? *That's* the point
here -- that there's no need to install those distribution versions
anywhere, let alone in /usr.
> Sigh... you can't possibly think hardcoded paths are a good idea, can
> you? Or the assumption that /usr/local/anything even exists?
Again, the perl4 vs. perl5 example is suitable in this case:
When writing install scripts, it is obviously desirable to use a
language that's as platform-independent as possible. It would be very
annoying to have to completely rewrite your installation scripts every
time a new release of perl came out. While perl5 tends to be somewhat
stable between minor version releases, that may not always be the case
and it shouldn't be depended upon. It's a given that perl4 isn't
changing anymore, and so that's the language of choice for many
installation scripters. For that reason, perl4 resides in /usr/bin.
Currently, the latest version of perl5 is still mostly backwards
compatible with perl4, so install scripts still run fine on Linux
despite the fact that /usr/bin/perl on Linux is perl5 rather than
perl4. The Linux world would encounter a problem if a new version of
perl [say, perl6] were to be released that *wasn't* backwards compatible
with perl4. As unlikely as that may be, it certainly isn't impossible
and it isn't something that should be summarily dismissed. At that
point, Linux admins would find themselves in a bind... do they continue
to install the latest version of perl6 in /usr/bin, thus breaking a
large number of install scripts, or do they install the latest release
into a different location?
*BSD does not have this problem. As soon as perl6 is released, perl5
would likely become the "system" perl [since it would then become
"stable"], and perl6 would go in /usr/local/bin. No conflicts, no
problems, nothing breaks. Installation scripters would be well advised
to start writing their scripts in the last stable release of perl5, but
they would likely have many years before that became a strict
requirement.
> > Things are "system" if they've been around long enough that they're
> > not really going to change any more [eg sh, ksh, perl4] and are
> > common dependencies for other applications. If an application is
> > completely "optional" or undergoes frequent revisions, it's
> > "non-system".
> Ah, I get it. If you can predict the future you can decide what
> belongs under /usr/local. You have to know when the next revision
> will happen.
No, it's the other way around. Something goes in /usr/local *until*
there are no more revisions. Then, if it's a common dependency, it's
reasonable to stick it in /usr/bin. I don't need to be able to predict
the future to know they're not coming out with new revisions of perl4.
If they ever release perl6, then perl5 will stop changing and can safely
be migrated to /usr/bin.
Think of it this way: /usr/local is for things that are still changing
or which are extremely optional [like gimp, doom, etc]. /usr is for
"system" files, which are files that don't change and are commonly
required by other applications. The contents of /usr *can* change over
time, as new applications become commonly depended upon [perl didn't use
to be in /usr/bin until it become so common for installation scripts]
and become stable [no new releases].
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From: Martin Burkhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: LILO.CONF
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:56:21 -0500
Janine:
It's a while back when I did this, but for some reason I had also the
urge to have my linux disk /dev/hda rather than /dev/hdb. It took me a
while to figure out how to do this. After lots of searching I found some
information (probably in some information on lilo or lilo.conf) to remap
the drives. So my lilo.conf looks like the following:
[root@martinb /root]# more /etc/lilo.conf
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7
label=linux
root=/dev/hda1
read-only
other=/dev/hdb1
label=dos
table=/dev/hdb
map-drive=0x80
to = 0x81
map-drive=0x81
to = 0x80
I think the last four lines were the solution to my problem...
I hope this helps
Martin
Janine Roe wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I am having some problems with booting into windows with lilo. Here's
> my situation:
>
> Orignally had one 4 gig hard drive partitioned with 1 gig for linux and
> 3 gig for windows95
>
> Added a new 6 gig hard drive and moved windows95 to this drive.
> Changed the old windows partition to linux native.:
>
> Disk /dev/hda: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hda1 1 1 768 3096544+ 83 Linux native
> #ORIGNALLY DOS-FAT32
> /dev/hda2 769 769 781 52416 82 Linux swap
> /dev/hda3 * 782 782 972 770112 83 Linux native
>
> New drive info:
>
> Disk /dev/hdb: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 839 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hdb1 * 1 1 420 3175168+ b Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hdb2 421 421 838 3160080 5 Extended
> /dev/hdb5 421 421 838 3160048+ b Win95 FAT32
>
> I changed to lilo.conf file to read as follows:
>
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> other=/dev/hdb1
> label=win95
> table=/dev/hdb
> loader=/boot/chain.b
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.35-1
> label=linux
> root=/dev/hda3
> read-only
> But at the lilo boot prompt I get an i/o error when I attempt to boot
> into win95.
>
> Additionally, when I changed the id from DOS to Linux native I got the
> following message:
>
> calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
> Syncing disks.
> Re-read table failed with error 16:
> Device or resource busy.
> Re-boot your system to ensure the partition table is updated.
>
> Also get I/O error dev 16:00, sector 0.
>
> Do these errors have something to do with the inablility to boot with
> lilo? Or is it a combination or errors?
> I would really appreciate some help on what to do to fix this.....
>
> Thanks,
> J.R.
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From: "Martin Ozolins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:26:47 -0700
Peter Seebach wrote in message ...
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Because you say so doesn't make it so. I've had the misfortune to
>>spend hours -- hundreds of hours, in fact -- exposed to libertarian
>>drivel of all degrees of stupifying complacency.
>
>Perhaps. On the other hand, the things you state about libertarians
>contradict everything I've heard libertarians say, and everything I've
>read that they've written.
>
>>That libertarian icon, Robert Heinlein, puts the libertarian
>>philosophy in the mouth of one of his heroes: "Violence has solved
>>more of the world's problems than any other method." (Starship
>>Troopers).
>
>That's hardly a philosophy; it's an observation, and not one people
>necessarily agree with.
>
In the context of the novel, RAH, was actually espousing a philosophy that
survival is better than not.
>
>This is going to come as a real shock to you, but often, even the hero
>in a novel is a *FICTIONAL* character, whose beliefs, goals, and methods,
>may not be the same as those of the author, or of people who like the
author.
>
Actually, If you read Heinlein, that is his personal philosophy, that was
just out of context, and misquoted a little, if memory serves.
>
>There are a lot of books I've enjoyed immensely, even if I don't agree
>with the protagonist on major issues.
>
I sure hope that Mr. Powe has read the book and not basing his philosophy on
a weak movie adaptation, 'cause these much more there.
>
>-s
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:46:21 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marco Anglesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I might have been a bit unclear in the observation, but it seems to me
>that, since employers do not have a stick (in that you can work or
>starve), they are forced to rely on a carrot (in that they pay you more;
>in fact, they pay you a lot more) to keep you working where you are. You
>begin to have market effects because a free market for labour can take
>place.
I don't think the welfare system is necessary. All you need is more than
one employer. My employer knows that I could easily find other work. The
welfare system is not an alternative; other work is.
>How much is that chunk in the US?
Do you mean just the amount "directly" withheld for unemployment, or all
the other costs (like the part "paid by the employer") which still, in
the end, come out of the amount of the money I get, out of the amount an
employer is willing to pay to hire me.
Unfortunately, they don't actually break it down numerically; I know that I
get about 67% of my "net pay", but I am not told how much of that is taken
for what purposes.
>From my paycheque, in "socialist
>Canada", EI is under three percent deducted at source, and capped at that
>(I get the overpayment back when I file my tax return). While I wouldn't
>mind the added few dollars, I certainly wouldn't see a substantial change
>in my lifestyle with it. I doubt I'd be "a lot more free" to leave my
>current employment.
It depends. I make mostly enough money, these days. But let's take my friend
Kelly. She barely makes a living. In general, her savings for a given month
are perhaps 5% of her paychecks, under normal circumstances.
3% of that paycheck would nearly *DOUBLE* the amount she comes out ahead.
And she's an office worker; you look at people who are closer to the line,
and it shows up even more.
>Perhaps I'm spoiled by work in IT. it pays me very well and gives me a lot
>of opportunities to move around. I do recognize that not all careers are
>like that. The EI system isn't "for" those in highly renumerative
>professions with a booming labour market and a long-term shortage of
>workers; it's for Joe Average, who has none of those advantages.
But it doesn't work for him, either. In the long run, Joe Average would
probably be better off without the amount of money wasted on this system,
and without the indirect effects of it dragging on the economy he depends
on.
Of course, part of this is just that, historically, our welfare system
was exceptionally stupid; if you were entitled to, say, $20k/year (annualized)
during your period of unemployment, the only way you could get any benefit
at all was to earn more than that. If you found a job that could pay you
$12k/year, you were *no better off at all* - and perhaps worse off. Because,
see, for each dollar you earn, they take away $1 of your benefits. Brilliant.
Lots of incentive to get your feet on the ground there.
-s
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:22:16 GMT
Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip<
: I thought the freebsd ports/packages system installed things under
: /usr/local which then become mingled with the things that you
: need to maintain yourself.
How do you *think* we "maintain" them?! With the ports system and
package database!
Even if you do a non-port/non-package install you'll still be *far*
better off if you register them in the package database to *help*
you *maintain* them yourself. It's really quite trivial.
: I'm easily confused. I want the unmodified installations to go one place,
: the ones I expect to have to tweak even after the next upgrade in another.
No one should "expect" to have to tweak *any* non-system components
after a system upgrade, period.
This isn't Linux; We don't have random a.out vs ELF, g?libc[0-9],
etc BS to deal with after a system upgrade.
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
My code is filled with comments! It's just that my comments are
written in Perl.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Sherwin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Redhat Sparc wants 150M Smaller needed!
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:29:13 GMT
On Tue, 11 May 1999 22:15:04 -0500, "Jack Mott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I know it can go smaller.
>There is a 486 computer the size of a matchbook running linux serving up web
>pages
>and it doesnt have 130 megs of ram :)
>
Remeber that all the RISC versions are bigger than Intel since the
executables and libraries are larger.
Best regards, Paul
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From: "Baumans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and windows floppy drive problems
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:25:07 GMT
Nitin Mule wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
>Check /etc/fstab for the entry corresponding to your floppy device eg
>/dev/fd0. If it specifies ext2fs as file system type, change it to
>msdos. Or simply be explicit while mounting dos formatted floppy. Type
>mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 (or whatever floppy device you have). Hope this
>helps.
>
Actually, my problems were in windows, and were created because(probably)
something that linux screwed with when it installed
>Nitin.
>
>
>Baumans wrote:
>>
>> I use a 3.5 inch floppy drive. It works fine normally, but
>> when I have linux installed, it always says that (in windows) any
>> (formatted)
>> floppy isn't formated. This happened both times when I installed linux
>> twice, and when I uninstalled
>> linux the first time, it worked. Do you know any way to fix it without
>> uninstalling linux.I use slackware linux 3.6 .
>>
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From: Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RoadRunner (cable modem) in Linux?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:25:16 -0700
I'm thinking of switching my home machine entirely from MacOS to
LinuxPPC, after Apple kicked me in the teeth this week. There's one
potential show-stopper: the cable modem. The computer's practically
useless to me if I can't access the net.
Does anybody know whether it's possible to use a cable modem
(specifically, the Time-Warner RoadRunner service) from linux?
Many thanks,
-- Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:30:35 GMT
Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip<
: These days it is pretty much hopeless with massive shared library changes
: on every release.
This problem is almost entirely self-contained to the Linux world.
: Most things work, but the time it takes to track down and fix a couple of
: bugs just isn't worth it when you can replace everything at once for the
: same (free) price. And before someone says that freebsd doesn't have
: problems like that
It doesn't.
: I have an assortment of versions and have generally not been able to
: compile something on one and copy to the others (either up or down
: versions).
/etc/make.conf
# If you want the "compat" shared libraries installed as part of
# your normal builds, uncomment these:
#
#COMPAT1X= yes
#COMPAT20= yes
#COMPAT21= yes
1.x -> CURRENT compatibility is also available as part of the system
install and *turned on* by default.
Again, such library bull shit is nearly completely confined to the
Linux world, period.
: Some things might work but amanda didn't. Someone else installed these
: boxes with the 'only install what you need' approach. Now I need to
: upgrade amanda for backups and it has to be done on all the machines at
: once - but there is no compiler installed. Are we having fun yet?
/usr/bin/cc is a core system component under FreeBSD. Again, your
problems are almost completely unique to Linux. Claiming that any
other system has even 1/100th the problems with this as Linux does
is spreading FUD, nothing more.
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
My code is filled with comments! It's just that my comments are
written in Perl.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John)
Subject: Help - Resolution Setup
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:39:52 GMT
Here is the deal:
I have Red Hat 6.0.
I have a Diamond Banshee Video Card
I have an IIYama 8617E 17" Monitor
How can I get out of the big 320x300 resolution so I can at least see
what Linux can do. Right now it is unusable. I know that the Voodoo
Banshee card is not listed but surely there is a way to get it to work
better than that. Does anyone know how and since I am new to Linux,
please elaborate. Thanks very much in advance.
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From: Serge Terryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux)
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 01:16:11 +0200
Ken Deboy wrote:
>
>
> Ken
I try Linux RedHat en SuSE, and come very fast back to FreeBSD. What a
mass this linux. Want software, where to get it? On the net, all right
but you have to choose the right version RedHat, SuSE,Debian ......
But there is only one FreeBSD. Need software, install it from the ports
of ftp-site. When you install from an ftp server, then FreeBSD connect
you correctly to the server and the path of your current version. All you
have to do is click on install en FreeBSD do the rest. This is very
simple and important, you are sure that the software you download works
on your version and you dont have messages as .. missing ....
when you try the software, and if you mis something, you don't have to
search a half hour to find what you need for your version , it's there
under your nose.
Missing something on linux, go on the net and search. You need a library,
you find it en you download it, and then you will run the program and it
don't work, de Lib you download had the correct name, but don't work on
your version of linux, what a mass.
icq 924243
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