Linux-Misc Digest #285, Volume #20               Fri, 21 May 99 02:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: ANN: bigbro-2.0.0 - recursively looks for broken Web links (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Linux supporting UPS? (Paul)
  Re: DDS-3 DAT drive (root)
  Re: Problem with AfterStep ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines (mumford)
  Re: Newbie question:Compiling the kernel and modules ? ("D. Vrabel")
  Re: [Q]  memory usage puzzle (Mark Tranchant)
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Amaya: Small startup problem. ("Jeroen N. Witmond")
  Re: Filesystem and Ext2 module? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Problems Installing Redhat 5.2 (Ward Dresser)
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Peter Seebach)
  Re: [Q] PPP-strange error!! ("Carl Hilinski")
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Peter Seebach)
  Re: RH 6.0 oddity (Steve Smoogen)
  Booting AlphaServer 1000A 4/266 HELP!! (Patrick LOGE)
  Re: RH6.0 PPP and X (brian moore)
  Re: Realplayer G2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  ->Folkert Meeuw: Starting RH 5.2 installation from bootdisk, hangs on Calibrating 
dealay loop. ("Folkert Meeuw")
  Re: Kernel 2.2.3 mystery (Tim Sutherland)
  Re: Help: Access to Linux for disabled people: on screen keyboard for Linux ? (M. 
David Allen)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: ANN: bigbro-2.0.0 - recursively looks for broken Web links
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 04:16:07 GMT

On 19 May 1999 22:57:26 +0200, Francois Pottier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>I am pleased to announce that Big Brother, a Web tool written in
>Objective Caml, has just been placed in the public domain. The program
>sources may be freely downloaded, used, modified, and re-distributed.

I did the beginning of a run on my web site, and I am quite pleased with
the usefulness of the tool thus far. 

I had previously *tried* using the Python-based package <ULINK URL=
"http://home1.gte.net/marduk/linbot/index.html"> Linbot - Web Site
Management Tool</ULINK>

It unfortunately seems to "eat" lots of RAM, and doesn't start
outputting any results until it has all the analysis done.  For my site,
that means that I either run out of memory or time before it completes. 

"bigbro," in contrast, dumps out the errors that it finds *immediately,*
which means that I may run it in portions, aborting when I feel like it,
and being able to do useful work with the partial results that I get out
of that.  (Found a *lot* of little errors that validation with NSGMLS
didn't find...)

>I now have little time to work on this project, so I would like to
>encourage interested people to bring their own improvements to it. If
>enough people are interested, maybe we can try and achieve some group
>effort.

I can suggest one improvement straight off; it would be real good to
have some "tag" at the start of each entry that provides some
classification information. 

This would enable the ability to do multiple "passes" on the input,
which would be beneficial in that I don't see a pattern to the ordering
of the errors that bigbro reports. 

It would be useful to do a second "pass" that takes the data coming out
of "pass 1" (e.g. - walking the web pages and finding errors), and do
some further analysis.

It looks to me like "Linbot" does so, but does so internally, not
exposing the intermediate data, which means that if you don't finish all
of "pass 1," you can't get any of the "pass 2" output.  (And since only
the second pass provides output, you actually get nothing at all...)

-- 
Fatal Error: Found [MS-Windows] System -> Repartitioning Disk for Linux...
(By [EMAIL PROTECTED], Christopher Browne)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/html.html>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux supporting UPS?
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:32:46 GMT

On Thu, 20 May 1999 12:29:05 GMT, "Bahnhof NEWS"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Anyone know if there is a built-in support for an UPS unit, in Linux?
>I want to have Linux making a nice halt if receiving a signal from the UPS,
>connected preferrably
>to a serial port.
>I use SuSE 6.1 with kernel 2.2.1.


Most distros have a version of 'powerd' somewhere which might do the
job.  However, watch out for intelligent UPSs - I've got one that
doesn't support Linux (a small box from Alpha - they claim that Linux
support is available RSN at $100 Au.)

You might be lucky, but read the UPS HOWTO first.

Paul

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: DDS-3 DAT drive
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:20:23 -0400

Chris Mauritz wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >   Chris Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> In comp.os.linux.misc Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Chris Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>What's the secret to getting a DDS-3 DAT drive to work with linux?
> >> >>I've tried reading/writing tapes with Redhat 5.2 and Redhat 6.0
> >> >>using an HP and a Seagate drive without success.
> >> >>
> >> >>When I try to read/write tapes, I get:
> >> >>
> >> >>tape read error:  Input/output error
> >> >>
> >> >>I've compiled SCSI tape support into the kernel (tried both 2.0.36
> > and
> >> >>2.2.9) and made sure the device files (/dev/nst0 /dev/st0) exist.
>
> > Do you have 'st' (SCSI Tape) support either compiled-in or as a
> > loadable module.  Check it with 'lsmod'.
>
> It is compiled in.  I don't have any modules compiled (nor do I have
> support for modules compiled in to the kernel).
>
> > Also, you can use 'script' to capture output to a file then edit and
> > post it.  Include 'dmesg', 'lsmod', exact error message give, ... .
>
> Will do.
>
> C
> --
> Christopher Mauritz
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I had problems with my tape also and saw a boot time  message "module st
not found"
when I checked it was supposed to be built in to the kernel so I just
rebuilt the kernel and put the "scsi tape" part as a module now it works
fine. But it was installed this way from the cd so it  could be worth
checking and by the way the device st was present before I rebuilt
anything. I figured it was due to my initio scsi card.
Well I hope that helped.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem with AfterStep
Date: 20 May 1999 12:28:24 GMT

bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> dh wrote:
>> 
>> AfterStep instead of fvwm. AfterStep now doesn't work - how do I
>> switch back to fvwm - using only bash shell?

> just edit your .xinitrc file.

...which you probably don't have.  Instead, edit ~/.wm_style to include
a single line which reads "fvwm95".  If you really want to see how RH5.2
decides what to do when you "startx", look in /etc/X11/xinit.

-- 
====================================
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mumford)
Subject: Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:01:33 GMT

A while ago, M.V. Ramana<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> begot:
>Hi,
>
>I am thinking of building a simple dual-processor machine (2 P-II 400Mhz
>CPUs). The most challenging task for this machine, if an when built,
>would be running some serious number crunching (linux) applications from
>mathematical optimization, computational algebra etc.

Others have already put forward this information, but I'll add to it.  I
just last night set up a dual celeron system.  It's pretty sweet.  It's
not so dangerous or scarey as some people would have you believe (with
all the PPGA -> slot 1 converters out there, you don't have to short any
pins or cut any traces)... but it also might not be for you.

You're requesting info about building a number crunching system... I'm
almost positive that you could expect a significant performance hit be-
cause of the decreased cache size if you chose celerons instead of true
P-II's (celerons have 128K cache, true P-II's have 512K).

>If some of you out there have built similar machine configurations, I
>would
>much appreciate if you can share your experiences. A few questions on
>on my mind are:
>
>1) On applications (built say, using gcc) that are not designed with
>parallel processing in mind, can you get any speed up at all?

Miniscule... mainly because the CPU running your special task won't have
to switch out to run the OS housekeeping tasks... I'd think *maybe* a
2% to 5% difference in performance assuming your system is otherwise
idle.  If your system is running some other processor-intensive jobs,
you'll definitely notice a speed up.

>2) A P-III 500 Mhz machine from Dell with similar specs costs about the
>same as above, and so, is it worth my time to build the dual processor
>machine?

If you're not going to use the machine for gaming, then you'd be throwing
away your money if you bought a P-III 500.  The only real attractive fea-
ture they have are the new SIMD (I think intel calls it SSE?) instructions
which are only good for games (currently).

Assuming the machine will only be used only for number crunching, I would
recommend a dual system over a single every time.

>3) What are the best places (on the internet or otherwise) to shop for
>parts? I looked at www.tcu-inc.com, and they had fairly decent prices
>on most items (256MB memory being a notable exception).

www.pricewatch.com is where I shop.  They don't sell anything, they only
give a list of competing prices from other places that sell.

>I should also mention that I have never "built" (assembled is a more
>accurate
>term, I guess) a PC before.

Welcome to Mr. Toad's wild ride. :)

-- 
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Email to me must have my address in either the To: or Cc: field.  All other
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie question:Compiling the kernel and modules ?
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:16:25 +0100

On Thu, 20 May 1999, Tom Hall wrote:

> I upgraded the kernel on my linux box several times and everythings
> worked fine, adding in the various extra bits for my sound card etc.
> 
> My question is this what is the difference / advantage of using modules
> over compiling stuff into the kernel itself?
Memory used by the kernel cannot be paged to disk thus limiting the amount
of free memory available fpr user programs.  The advantage with modules is
that they can be unloaded and the memory made avilable to user programs.

Are there any other advantages?

David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.


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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q]  memory usage puzzle
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:22:45 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jerome Mrozak wrote:
> 
> I have SuSE 6.1 distribution (Linux 2.2.5) installed on a 80MB RAM
> computer.  Booting to the CLI, 'free' reports that 55MB is used, 25MB
> unused.  I am not running any expensive daemons at this moment (for
> example, not running httpd or crond or lpd or atd, etc.).
> 
> I understand that Linux can run in 16MB, ??MB, etc.  Yet it is reporting
> 55MB used.
> 
> *   Is Linux simply using the memory to cache, and will release this
> memory overuse as other programs require it?

Yes.

> 
> *   I'm thinking that when I run a GUI (Gnome, KDE) that it will want to
> eat memory.  Will I start swapping to swap partition simply because my
> "kernel" is chewing my RAM?

No - swapping will only start in earnest when the working set of all
open applications approaches the total available RAM. The kernel will
balance the cache against the swap usage. This is a good thing - idle
processes are swapped out, freeing up more RAM for caching.

> 
> *   Is my base setup configured wrong to use this much memory?

No, unless you are running anything you don't need.

> *   How is it my Linux eats more RAM (apparently) than the pig that is
> WinNT4?

You have bought 80MB of RAM - would you rather it was left idle or put
to good use? How do you measure the NT usage? You have insufficient
memory when the machine is thrashing (swapping heavily).

Run "top" or "free" and look at the amount cached or used for buffers.

Mark.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 04:15:59 GMT

On 20 May 1999 20:40:48 +0200, David Kastrup
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach) writes:
>
>> You may be less likely to die, net, if you have a gun, because most
>> of the time, people "defending" themselves with guns don't fire them
>> - most people aren't stupid enough to wait around to be shot at.
>
>So you would be of the opinion that a criminal armed with a gun
>telling me to pass my wallet will, if I grasp at a gun as an answer,
>turn his back on me and walk away?
>
>Sounds plausible.

Scenario:

- Criminal plans to go in, threaten target with gun, and get wallet. 

- Criminal discovers that the target is able to threaten force back. 

Fleeing in fear is a pretty good "option" at this juncture. 

Are other options possible?  Certainly.  The two commonly considered
options are "fight or flight." 

Regardless, a "victim" with a drawn weapon is a significantly less
attractive target than an unarmed victim.

Of course, what this has to do with private ownership of capital,
Windows advocacy, Linux advocacy, or free software is a good question... 

-- 
"...very few phenomena can pull someone out of Deep Hack Mode, with two
noted exceptions: being struck by lightning, or worse, your *computer*
being struck by lightning." -- By Matt Welsh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: "Jeroen N. Witmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Amaya: Small startup problem.
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:15:09 +0000

Mihaly Gyulai wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Jeroen N. Witmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have downloaded Amaya 2.0 LINUX_ELF from w3c.org, and I have a small
> > problem starting Amaya. I get the following error messages:
> >
> > Xlib: connection to ":0:0" refused by server
> > Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> > *** Not initialized
> > *** Fatal Error: X connexion refused
> 
> Maybe you tried to start it from console ??
> Try to run it after starting X... (or is it the situation ? - it's not
> clear from your message...)
> 

When I start Amaya from one of the virtual terminals (ALT-F1 - ALT-Fn) I
get the error mentioned above (at this time I do have X started). I also
get the error when I start Amaya from an xterm.

And I do not get the error (that is, Amaya starts) when I issue the
command to start Amaya from the shell buffer that is part of xemacs. I
hope this make the situation a little more clear.

Regards.
-- 
Jeroen N. Witmond ( mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xs4all.nl/~jnw/ )

This message was composed in a Micro$oft-free environment.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Filesystem and Ext2 module?
Date: 20 May 1999 01:48:41 GMT

> I have trouble when config the ext2 as modules, the kernel just panic,
> is there any
> restriction about file system config?

Sure: the kernel needs to access the HD during the boot process - e.g. to
load the modules.

> Beside, does some one know how to make kernel support a new file system,
> I think somewhere of the kernel configuration file must be modifed to
> integrat a new filesysmte. any information will be appreciated.

I think I don't get your point. You can integrate support for various file
systems by compiling the according fs drivers into the kernel or as
modules. But I think you didn't mean that... ?

cu
        Philipp

-- 
Dr. Philipp Pagel
Dept. of Cellular and Molecular Physiology
Yale University


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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:09:15 -0700
From: Ward Dresser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems Installing Redhat 5.2

That was the problem, thanks for the help Peter!

Ward Dresser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 2 May 1999, Peter T. Breuer wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> :   Installation successful, but when I re-boot after I get  30+ lines of output
> : I
> :   get the following error message:
> 
> :   ll_rw_block: device 16:41 only 1024-char blocks implemented (4096)
> 
> uh, device 16 41? Major 22, minor 65? That's hdd1 !!
> 
> brw-r--r--   1 root     root      22,  65 Dec 10 18:22 /dev/hdd1 
> 
> --
> Peter
> 


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:13:35 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
mlw  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In the US, if you are robbed at gun-point. They'll shoot you for fun. If
>a guy has pointed a gun at you, he intends to kill you. 

Not always; as I understand it, it's not more than about 50% likely.

Yeek.

-s
-- 
Copyright 1999, All rights reserved.  Peter Seebach / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C/Unix wizard, Pro-commerce radical, Spam fighter.  Boycott Spamazon!
Will work for interesting hardware.  http://www.plethora.net/~seebs/
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From: "Carl Hilinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [Q] PPP-strange error!!
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 22:21:54 -0400

Hmm. Here's my story...I attempted to copy a Halflife pak0.pak file from one
partition to another when I got an error so hard I had to crawl behind the
machine to unplug the facker. When I restarted, of course, there were heaps
of bunches of errors that I let the system fix. On the next reboot, I got
the same modprobe stuff or both lo and etho. But everything worked
afterward. I rebooted again just because I didn't like the looks of the
whole thing, and lo and etho were loaded normally. This, by the way, is on a
recompiled version of rh6.0 (done because I want raid support built in, not
as a loadable module and I didn't like all the crap RH put in the standard
install).

ch

Janusz Kawczak <"jkawczak"@math,uncc.edu> wrote in message
news:dOp03.1597$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi everyone:
> I've upgraded from RH5.2->RH6.0 and now I am getting some strange
> looking error messages.
>
> 1) when the system boots, I get
> .... modprobe: can't locate module lo:0
> .... modprobe: can't locate module lo:1
> and so on, until 50 runs are reached.
> Any suggestions????




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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:25:26 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kenneth P. Turvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I understand that Hitler liked vi and Stalin was a big emacs fan.  The
>used to play `hunt the wumpus' on the old PDP .00003 .

Oooh!  Wumpus!  I *loved* that game.  My dad typed in a special "super-wumpus"
game with additional events, and got it running on the Wang 2200 that was my
first computer ever.

-s
-- 
Copyright 1999, All rights reserved.  Peter Seebach / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C/Unix wizard, Pro-commerce radical, Spam fighter.  Boycott Spamazon!
Will work for interesting hardware.  http://www.plethora.net/~seebs/
Visit my new ISP <URL:http://www.plethora.net/> --- More Net, Less Spam!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Smoogen)
Subject: Re: RH 6.0 oddity
Date: 20 May 1999 17:03:04 GMT

Things to check:

Are you on a YP domain? [Check to see if there are errors in
               /var/log/messages saying if there are timeouts.]
Are you running nscd? [If so try disabling it, if not try enabling it.]

The nscd problem seems to be one where some people find that it is
faster with it enabled, and others find it slower with it enabled.

On 19 May 1999 17:09:44 GMT, Bob Tennent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 19 May 1999 14:44:03 GMT, Chris Mauritz wrote:
> >I notice a really pregnant pause (several seconds) when I su to root on
> >my RH 6.0 testbed machine.  I haven't noticed this behaviour on any
> >previous versions of RH?  Is there some new (undocumented) feature that's
> >causing this?  I happens both from the console and when I telnet to the
> >system.
> >
>I noticed this yesterday.  A similar pause on exiting too.
>It went away when I re-booted.  
>
>Bob T.


-- 
SJS  --  Red Hat Technical Support   
[Please be aware I cannot always answer email directly emailed at me. I
 try to answer on the news groups for more people to see the information
 and correct me if I am wrong :)]

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From: Patrick LOGE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Booting AlphaServer 1000A 4/266 HELP!!
Date: 20 May 1999 13:31:05 GMT

Booting AlphaServer 1000A 4/266 HELP!!
First, as you will see in the following message,
it is the FIRST time I try to boot Linux on an Aplha :)

How to boot this machine?

I've tried to go though de AlphaBIOS to insert LINUX
as a bootable OS.

I'v make a floppy with linload an a milo from the CD.

The machine start to boot with Linux but stopped to
"swapping ..PALCode..0x80000" or something like that.

I've been told that it was a wrong milo, and that it was no
milo at all for the AlphaServer 1000A 4/266...

Lot of poeple talk about about SRM consol (???) where do I find this...

I heard about "noritake" file what should I do with this???

So, it the mess :(((((((( 

==================  Posted via SearchLinux  ==================
                  http://www.searchlinux.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: RH6.0 PPP and X
Date: 21 May 1999 05:22:26 GMT

On Fri, 21 May 1999 01:56:11 -0700, 
 Grand Admiral Thrawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>     I just moved from RH5.1 to RH6.0 and now I am having a lot of
> problems.  In 5.1, my PPP and X set up were working just fine.  In 6.0
> PPP stopped working.  I was using ezppp and I have the same
> configuration as I used to have in 5.1, but pppd dies immediately after
> I connect.   Using kppp, I can connect, but I don't have control over
> kppp (it sits there like it is waiting for something to happen) but  X
> starts telling me that it can't open display :0.0.  After this I need to
> reboot in order to get it to work right again.

That's actually because of a silly trick that RH does for reasons known
only to them -- as part of the if-up script, they change the hostname of
the system, which breaks X.

Comment out the 'hostname $1' in the set_hostname() function in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/network-functions

This would be a useful feature if you have a static IP, but it's really
really bad on a typical dialup link.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Realplayer G2
Date: 20 May 1999 13:00:59 -0400

Jeremiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:       John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thusly:
:> Allen Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> 
:>: http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html
:> 
:> yay.  Has anyone gotten this to play most of the video clips on the Real.com
:> showcase page?  On my box it plays audio fine but segfaults on most video,
:> complaining that not all components may be installed.
:> (Admittedly I've only got a 64MB 150mmx and they want a 64MB 200 but I doubt
:> that's causing the segfaults).

:       I had some luck getting some streaming clips to play: 1 out of
: 3 made it through.  The others segfaulted.  I didn't see any complaints
: about components not being installed, though. Still, it's an improvement
: over 5.0...

Keep in mind that this is an alpha release, so don't expect everything
to work.  I am suprised that the Linux G2 version actually exists
considering that announced they had no plans for G2 development for
non Windows/MAC platforms 2 months ago.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Folkert Meeuw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: ->Folkert Meeuw: Starting RH 5.2 installation from bootdisk, hangs on 
Calibrating dealay loop.
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 06:32:41 +0200

Hi Dear Friendly Readers,
yesterday, I made a backup from my files of my old RH 4.2 system
today I want to install RH 5.2.
I write the boot.img with rawrite on a formated 1.44 Fd.
I put the Fd in FDD on my 486 PC, start the system and <enter>.
But Installation hangs on: Callibrating delay loop ..
Ok ! The PC has no pci_init: no BIOS32 ...
Next I start the system again and type: expert <enter>.
Hm, what do you think is passed, the same precedure as ..
I need help or information, but nothing 'bout my PC.
Or fails installation on a i486 compaq: pci_init: no BIOS32 detected ?

NG Folkert Meeuw





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sutherland)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.3 mystery
Date: 21 May 1999 04:54:47 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chameleon wrote:
>On Tue, 18 May 1999 06:09:38 GMT, The Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>> I recently upgraded from kernel 2.0.36 to 2.2.3. I have the following
>>questions:
<snip>
>Why did you change to ttyS0 if it worked with cua0?  You have a serial
>mouse?

The cua devices are obsolete and will be phased out. The ttyS devices are the
correct ones to use.

-- 
        "For I perceive that behind this seemingly unrelated sequence
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        "Whose?"
        "MINE! HA-HA!"

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. David Allen)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Help: Access to Linux for disabled people: on screen keyboard for Linux ?
Date: 21 May 1999 04:55:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henk Linde) writes:
> Hello,
> 
> I am curious about the Linux OS but then I need an on screen keyboard
> for Linux because i cannot use a regular keyboard.. 
> I am dependant on an on-screen-keyboard as an alternative to a
> computer keyboard. I am using Eek! for Windows on Windows98. 
> An on-screen-keyboard is a window on my screen that contains all keys
> on a regular keyboard. I can type a key by clicking on a button that
> is in this window. The on screen keyboard looks like a keyboard but
> then in a resizeable, moveable window on my screen.
> 
> I have to use this because I have Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy and
> therefore i have a very limited reach and hand function. But i still
> can use a mouse and point and click on the "keys/buttons" of my
> on-screen-keyboard.
> 
> I have looked up some pages on the web that have a picture and info.
> 
> http://www.m-art.com/software/mousekey/index.html
> http://www.madenta.com/specs/spec_dor.htm
> SofType on  http://www.orin.com/access/SofType/index.htm
> 
> Is there an on screen keyboard program for Linux available ? If no,
> who is willing to develop such a program. This would not only benefit
> mobility handicapped people but also i've this as an alternative to
> the small keyboards of handheld computers (palmpilot and such).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Henk Linde
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

I'm working on an application right now that does just that for linux.
It's called GTKeyboard, and it's available under the GNU GPL at 
http://opop.nols.com/

The latest is 0.4 right now, and you can't direct IO to other windows yet,
but it's pretty good as a rudimentary text editor with some extras in it
right now.

I hope it helps.

download at http://opop.nols.com/proggie/keyboard-0.4.tar.gz

-- 
David Allen
http://opop.nols.com/
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AUTHOR'S NOTE:
(B FLAT, 4/4, Staccato)

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